Jarbear good to see another colourblind brother on here but I edited the whole of SOlo just using iMovie so don’t knock it 😉 haha
Color blind and uses iMovie? My man!
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Im sorry to be the voice of pessimism but I don’t understand the push for using video game footage. No matter what tweaking can be done, it can’t pass as being real. The textures, lighting, contract, camera movement, artifacts (the magically appear) that will always stick out.
And yes I get people can truly believe or from their view/perspective they can’t tell the difference … that really isn’t a good reason to use it. It’s a bit like me taking a color blind test (which I am color blind) and say “I don’t see a pattern/etc. so it doesn’t exist” when yes … it does exist.
I appreciate the passion people have since without it, fan edits wouldn’t happen. Also people have different goals for fan edits, from being conservative to ratical.
The saying comes to mind “If you put lipstick on a pig, it’s still a pig.” Video game graphics get better and better, but it’s still not realistic and the brain will tell you “something is wrong” because it cannot 100% simulate realism, with some of the points I mentioned earlier about textures, lighting, etc.
I know this is Hal’s edit and he can do whatever he wants, I get that … I just can’t understand the push for it. If he says “I’m doing it” then I’ll accept it and move on. (But will for sure take it out using iMovie. Lol)
Oh dear…
Hi guys! what is that haircut scene you are talking about? Sorry I missed it!
Its the scene with Luke and Rey. Mark, The hair is … very wiglike and it helps that Jonh gave him a “haircut” to help remove it wiggyness.
Thats obviously the technical explanation. haha!
Oh, hahahahah!
In that case …
I’ll take any feedback … I just gotta have that good ole scream in every star wars film. Granted it is not an episodic movie … but it’s star wars! ha!
I couldn’t help it:
https://vimeo.com/511625544
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Harmy’s de-specialized removes all the Special Edition stuff.
As in leave it all alone despite removing the bors gullet scene?
I am ok with that line since it really reinforces the … incompetence? … or “lazy-ness” of those officers at such a secured and “lofty” assignment. Heck, you see how everyone just stopped and watched the explosions and were dumbstruck.
Anyway, I think Hal will need to change the title of this thread to "Hals Rogue One edit(a 3/4 Assed Version of Digmod’s)
You did a great job on that section DigMod, in context to the removal of the Bors Gullet scene it works so well.
Sequel Trilogy: “Anakin who?”
I like the ambition, the tough part will be the multiple trips back and forth to the Rebel Alliance for the first couple of phases.
I enjoy RogueOne the most and view it as the “better” movie of the “Disney” Star Wars overall (Felt like Star Wars, IMO) These edits are just to either help flesh it out a bit and “sand off” some of the bad, but man, overall a much better and enjoyable movie.
As for Jynn, trying to help her be less passive would be nice to do. Granted, at the end she does have a more active role, but it would have been nice a little bit earlier, or at least even in a small way to progress her “full in” at the end.
Personally I prefer the way it plays out originally, Cassian’s main objective is to “authenticate the story and then if possible find [Galen Erso]”. They believe he is critical to the development of this weapon, which plays into the orders to kill him. And on that note, I wouldn’t want to lose Draven’s reaction to “Jedah Destroyed”, it gives his orders more motivation (killing Galen, commanding a direct assault on Eadu). He feels “a decision needed to be made”.
Those cut lines are also where Cassian autheticates the story, “Weapon Confirmed. Jedah Destroyed”. He then asks if he proceeds with the secondary objective after learning Galen is on Eadu. Jynn’s “speech” is not meant to rally them to go to Eadu, she’s telling them her father is not the evil imperial they believe, it has a purpose as it is what makes Cassian hesitate on following his orders. The Rebels don’t know that Galen is working against the Empire, and neither does Cassian, since the message was destroyed on Jedah, he has to trust Jynn’s word.
I think if this change was merged with the “secret mission” change, it would muddle the motivations of everyone. The progression in the story makes more sense if “finding Galen” is given some importance from the beggining.
Ah, those are good points and it would make it “murky” about Cassian’s “secret” orders. What would be the point of those orders if the earlier scene at the briefing room was just about finding the pilot. I also get what you mean with Jynn’s role and it does make some sense. There would be a disconnect with the “kill orders” if there was nothing officially or unofficially talked about finding Galen.
SO I would be ok with not going that route now for the sake of the “secret kill orders” since that change in itself I think adds plenty of benefits.
this is a fascinating approach, and I’d agree seeing a rough work print would help to visualize!
I spliced Cassian line “Set course for Eadu” that he says after contacting with Alliance, and a line Cassian says mentioning Yavin IV after they escape Eadu.
When I made this scene, I originally made it with the intention that they accomplished their mission, securing the pilot, which is why Cassian is returning to base. Jyn has to convince Cassian to now go after her father, since Bodhi knows where he is.
I suppose this could still work, but the whole purpose of getting the pilot was to find out from him where her father was, so I don’t know if Cassian returning to base without even speaking with Bodhi makes sense. I guess you could argue that he was going to take Bodhi back to base for questioning, but Jyn pressed Cassian to go ahead and get her father now.
This was also a scene I wanted to restructure a bit, and reshuffle the dialogue. I think there is a way to make the dialogue in this scene flow much better than how I had it in general, but I also wanted to make this scene more about Jyn wanting to rescue her father, rather than becoming fully committed to the cause.
One thing that can add some “rational” of returning to Yavin 4 is a line he uses with Jynn about “We are deep in Imperial Space, I cannot send that kind of information” when she talked about the Death Star Plans. So we already have a type of rational on NOT sending information out at all … but to bring the whole crew back to base to go over the intel they have with the pilot
So the flow of the scene is Cassian is returning to Yavin 4 with the pilot, as the official mission dictated earlier. Jynn recommends going to Eadu to bring father back to confirm his intel, the source of the message on how to destroy the weapon. Although it is a risk to broadcast to Yavin 4, as he states to Jynn, it may be worth the risk to retrieve Galen since Jynn pushes for it.
Draven confirms the information but still says to proceed with his initial orders. For him, he believes Galen is the problem, so his kill orders stand. This also can add to Cassian’s dilemma about the kill orders. At first, it’s pretty “simple” to do since he knew nothing about Galen. Now, he knows Jynn and the rest of the crew are behind Jynn to retrieve Galen. Heck, the pilot was telling them how Galen is the good guy. So although he relays the information to Yavin 4 to make it a retrieval mission, and not an assassination mission … but the old orders stand. This helps contribute with the conflict we visually see later with him with the orders.
He had an “out” to not kill Galen, but Jynn had the crew behind her and a logical step for the mission to retrieve Galen who knew how to destroy the weapon to go to Eadu instead of just going back to base.
EDIT: There would be one line to remove from Cassian, at one point when Jynn says he should notify the base he says “I’ve already done that”, to help with the concept of not broadcasting out to base because they were deep in imperial space, by removing that line (may need some tweaking overall) it helps sell that he has NOT sent out any information out and only did because the benefit of reaching out to the base about going to Eadu was worth the risk.
In the mean time, please try to go to sleep
Seconded!
Hopefully his radio silence means he’s getting rest.
But if you’re awake, MR, what do you think of this new Star Wars clip?
https://youtu.be/Udj-o2m39NAhaha! Sneaky Sandman Poppa 😉 38 hours is my new personal best. I’ll try for 42 next time HAHA!
Let’s see if you either start going crazy, or go further crazy … like me!
For the sake of messing around with the “to eadu scene!” with the latest changes, I want to share what RogueLeader did. The objective between the alteration of this scene does a couple of things:
1.) Jynn is not just here for the ride anymore, but is driving the plot now
2.) Jynn’s speech now has actual purpose
So as we know the scene is originally this:
Cassian relays what happens to Yavin - Told to go to Eadu and Kill Galen - Jynn talks about faith and mission - Rallies troops to go to Eadu and get father.
So first off, when you think about it … what was the point of Jynn’s speech and rallying call? Cassian already said out loud “set course to Eadu.” So … they were already going there to seemingly do what she was trying to inspire the rest of the crew to do. In their minds … why else go to eadu? So Jynn has this “speech” and “motivating speech” to do something … which they already were seemingly going to do. It would be like a father has the family pile in the car and tells them “We are going to Disney Land” and one of the kids tries convincing the rest of them they should go to Disney land and go on the rides. Ummm … yeah … Your dad right at the start said you are going to Disney land … why do you need to convince him and the others to go there?
So instead, with this clip, you’ll see it is her convincing the group, and Cassian, to go to Eadu. It’s been changed where you hear Cassian say towards the beginning “plot a course to Yavin 4” and the rest of the scene plays out the same, until the end Cassian contacts Yavin 4. Now this clip is BEFORE applying the Deepfake to Tarkin and the alterations Burbin made (Which is fantastic). This is just to see the direction overall.
So just an idea that may or may not work with the edit, but just an idea if possible!
https://vimeo.com/509466426
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Color blind like me, I get it. Lol.
I laughed about the excitement of a pine tree. Good times.
How about using the footage of Rey waking up from TLJ and have the whole sequel trilogy a dream?
One better: Grogu wakes up from a dream and the sequels was just a nightmare. 😛
Everybody loves Grogu. Haha! (Looks at “The Child” Sideshow statue)
@Burbin - Wow, nice! Thanks for turning off the lights on the castle shot. Really nice.
Are you flexing? 😉
New update to Rey’s crackling Saber scene
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1408265/action/topic#1408265
Hahahah!
Also, nice work with the lightsaber. Really good.
How about using the footage of Rey waking up from TLJ and have the whole sequel trilogy a dream?
One better: Grogu wakes up from a dream and the sequels was just a nightmare. 😛
Everybody loves Grogu. Haha! (Looks at “The Child” Sideshow statue)
@Burbin - Wow, nice! Thanks for turning off the lights on the castle shot. Really nice.
With me stealing lots of these ideas, perhaps we’ll have to use that title for my edit now… 😃
DigMod’s Stolen One - Fan edit of Rogue One.
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Sounds all good Hal and understandable!
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You forgot the titanic option … EVEN A TOUGHER CALL!
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Hey Hal, whichever you go with for your edit, would you be willing to provide the “alternate” choice with the applied LUT? At least saved in a folder for access?
Dang. That’s impressive.