Just be more exact on what sources you’re using and what the goal of your edit is. We have a lot of resources around that can help.
I didn’t go to film school, but I think wiping from a static shot to a shot with a zoom breaks some kind of editing rule.
I just realized “aalenfae” is EC Henry, and I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t (or was) alone in being a decade slow.
We can assume the DS1 can travel at lightspeed because it does. I don’t think it’s necessary to see it.
People here: “Adywan, you’ve been quiet, it’s been so long, you should just retire.”
Adywan: “Sorry that I’ve been quiet, I’ve been building multiple models that take up my entire house, again.”
Ady, you never cease to amaze.
I’m fairly certain some of the people in this thread weren’t born when this whole project started. LOL
Adywan knows what he’s doing and knows his limits. This is a passion project of his, and he’ll be done when he’s done. He’s already inspired loads of fan editors, but we’re all still eager to see the completion of his vision. We’ll get it when we get it. We don’t need to question him or beg for updates.
Say what you want about AI but I am loving these filler moments. This is Vader reacting to Obi-Wan’s becoming more powerful with the Force moment. Even Palpatine is kinda freaking out about it.
I’d rather that the film didn’t stop for 8 minutes when it needs to be moving fast during the DS escape, TIE fighter battle, and arriving on Yavin IV. It’s slow and awkward as hell, and also it’s AI and looks modern and crisp. Same issue as SC38 Reimagined. Just sticks out like a sore thumb.
It’s almost like the movie as is won the Oscar for editing and the pacing doesn’t need messed with.
I’m not sure why we have this argument every few months. Tatooine has blue skies. Get over it.
The prophecy must be fulfilled.
People need to understand how film pacing works, and how each shot matters.
See also: that Obi-wan/Vader fight
The DOUT isn’t going to be in cinemas for a whole year. Nobody knows about home releases yet. I think waiting for that isn’t practical or desirable, especially as lots of work has already been done.
Why are we calling it DOUT again? There is no other version called “OUT”, why do we have to specify it’s Disney???
Honestly, after the “4K” LOTR trilogy hype with everyone parroting “it will be scanned from ogrinal negatives” which in the end it clearly wasn’t and PJ said as much, I am very much in DOUT it will be everything everyone is saying it will be.
This time we have literal visual evidence…
To be fair, it’s possible the last step in the process could f it up completely. But that’s not for this forum. Adywan is more than likely not going to stop his efforts for another 2 years. His house can’t take it!
The DOUT isn’t going to be in cinemas for a whole year. Nobody knows about home releases yet. I think waiting for that isn’t practical or desirable, especially as lots of work has already been done.
Why are we calling it DOUT again? There is no other version called “OUT”, why do we have to specify it’s Disney???
“DOUT” is fun because one can still doubt because it’s almost too good to be true!
I’ve been trying to think of a way to be positive about these edits, but I’m not sure I can. I don’t understand the reason behind making a re-Specialized GOUT, and the final product jumps around in quality so much that it’s distracting. Every SE shot re-inserted does not blend in in the slightest. There’s nothing this edit does that couldn’t just be met by watching any of the existing preservations of the 1997 Laserdisc.
I mean, if you’re doing this as an exercise to learn how to edit, good for you. But you don’t need to set release dates for this or try to build hype. You can share them if you want, but this project might work best as a personal project for you.
I don’t do this for any of the reasons you potentially wondered. even I myself realised that the master I used is not from an original reel only AFTER the restorations were finished, and by that point, delaying the restorations with months again would have just caused more debates and controversy. I consider the new restorations an unfortunate mistake caused by unclear sources on the master’s part. in the future I will resort to actual direct reels, and using 4k97 projects more is an option, although hard to accomplish, after I have been banned from the forums they are in and the colours in those restorations are really hard to fix to match the actual release.
So now the goal is to take 4K77 and reinsert the (hundreds of) changed shots from 4K97, then present it at 480p? Personally, I would just color correct 4K97 or the Laserdisc to my liking, as the inserts are always going to be rough and even following my gallery would still miss changes. If this is just a matter of not having a Laserdisc preservation, I can get you the Laserdisc.
I’ve been trying to think of a way to be positive about these edits, but I’m not sure I can. I don’t understand the reason behind making a re-Specialized GOUT, and the final product jumps around in quality so much that it’s distracting. Every SE shot re-inserted does not blend in in the slightest. There’s nothing this edit does that couldn’t just be met by watching any of the existing preservations of the 1997 Laserdisc.
I mean, if you’re doing this as an exercise to learn how to edit, good for you. But you don’t need to set release dates for this or try to build hype. You can share them if you want, but this project might work best as a personal project for you.
My point with all of this is that nobody should be using the 2011 BD to weight their opinions of how Star Wars should look.
But, but, it was the only home video release personally overseen by Lucas! LOL
Correct, this is crossing the line, which must be why the shots were flipped to begin with. As much as I admire the effort, I think fixing mistakes while also violating film language isn’t advisable.
I can’t remember if there was some controversy about adding the battle droid to the junk pile a while back, but I personally like it.
You have to remember that “The Clone Wars” hadn’t even come out when the SD version was released, a lot of things have changed since then. LOL
I’m going to go out on a limb and assume Ady isn’t going to start the project over for the third time.
Looks like this time it’s happening. https://kotaku.com/star-wars-original-theatrical-cut-4k-restoration-leaks-screenshot-disney-2027-2000638887
Here’s hoping!
It’s darkly amusing to me that I’m already reading stuff about this release, like re-composited effects shots and alternate dialogue takes, that means it won’t pass some peoples’ purity test.
Yeah. The Indiana Jones 4K was recomposited according to Damn Fool Idealistic Crusader.
I started a VisComp, Indy was not recomposited, the bluescreen elements have been rotoscoped from the final composite and stretched and warped to cover up the matte lines. It’s hilarious in A/B comparisons.
That’s not what we’re seeing here.
I stand corrected. So What they cgi rotocoped them? It’s like having to play Columbo.
I want to say that might have been a Paramount decision and not George or Steven.
They also made a couple fixes to the theatrical version of Star Trek: The Motion Picture, which was completely needless when there was an entirely separate version being prepared in 4k for that exact reason.
It’s surely the same Paramount team that felt like they needed to “fix” the theatrical TMP. Using the cleanup tools they had on hand to make VFX decisions to fix “mistakes”, and not doing very well at it.
It’s darkly amusing to me that I’m already reading stuff about this release, like re-composited effects shots and alternate dialogue takes, that means it won’t pass some peoples’ purity test.
Yeah. The Indiana Jones 4K was recomposited according to Damn Fool Idealistic Crusader.
I started a VisComp, Indy was not recomposited, the bluescreen elements have been rotoscoped from the final composite and stretched and warped to cover up the matte lines. It’s hilarious in A/B comparisons.
That’s not what we’re seeing here.
Noticing a lot of your VFX shots aren’t from the 97SE, but from the theatrical! Just in case you wanted to fix them.
they are from the Special Edition as far as I know. at least the master said “SE” in the filename. unless it’s a reconstruction.
I think it’s a reconstruction. It looks like the 2006 bonus disc for the most part, but it’s missing small changes. If it makes you happy, go for it, but it’s probably not going to be useful for many others here. I’m sorry.
Noticing a lot of your VFX shots aren’t from the 97SE, but from the theatrical! Just in case you wanted to fix them.
The process of restoration has now been finished and the sample reel is available here! https://youtu.be/Pfk8CqXiNVk
I still don’t understand the need for a low quality reconstruction of the 97SE, but if it makes you happy, great!
Which of those shots were from the film scan you have?
I think having it low-quality is good because of two things: one, it adds a sense of nostalgia to the film so you get to like feel the films as the people saw them in 1997. Two, it also saves space in devices, since having all restorations and fanedits be 10GB per film takes a good chunk of computer space.
And as for the question you wrote; most scenes. the scenes that were taken from other sources were the Wampa-scene, the scream of Luke shot, the Death Star near Alderaan shot and the victory celebration ending.
So you cleaned and stabilized all the other shots from a film scan? Wow!
And as someone who saw the movies in theaters, I saw it in much better quality. 😉
The process of restoration has now been finished and the sample reel is available here! https://youtu.be/Pfk8CqXiNVk
I still don’t understand the need for a low quality reconstruction of the 97SE, but if it makes you happy, great!
Which of those shots were from the film scan you have?
Thanks for 15 years of comparisons!
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