The point of the thread is to establish a hashtag. It’s in the title.
My feeling after years of study is that Lucas doesn’t want to be reminded of work he wasn’t happy with at the time and only reminds him of what he lost. Every movie he swore it was the last and that he and Marcia could settle down after, but by the time RotJ was done, she was gone.
Doesn’t change the fact that it’s film history and should be preserved, but I get his hesitation now.
It’s not spite, it’s regret.
Even so, I feel that “getting rid of the garbage mattes” in the most recent releases is “brightness balancing properly”, not “recompositing the original elements”. Is that accurate, Harmy?
Actually, having recently seen a 35mm screening of the 97SE, I can confirm the matte boxes were totally still there and very visible in the theater.
Oh wow. That’s extraordinary!
Can you clear something up for me did they remove all the garbage mattes in the 2020 UHD or not, and the matte lines. Because Lucas claimed in the 1997 restoration they did.
They recomposited a handful of shots for 97SE, another handful for 04SE, but mostly the garbage mattes were visible due to early home video being too bright. So mostly they’re just not visible because we’re finally being presented the movies at the right brightness.
I have a whole website! StarWarsVisComp.com
All that work ILM did to prove to Lucas that they could indeed shove random things into shots without planning on the day of shooting, for you to just erase it like it didn’t add to the story and didn’t need to be there! Some nerve! 😉
From October 2023
A long overdue update…
Things are progressing really well with ANH:RHD. There’s only about 40 shots left to do. It may sound like a lot of shots but it’s not. Most of the film is complete. The remaining shots are mainly the CG work for the Yavin battle with a few shots here and there in other places. It’s looking very likely that it’s going to be a 2024 release now, hopefully mid year. The one thing that could hold things up is shooting the replacement Sandtroopers. I was hoping to get the shots i need filmed this year but we have had such a shite summer it became impossible. So that’s going to have to wait until next year when hopefully we’ll have some sunny days.
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There’s no way i can do any serious work on the video side of things for ROTJ:R until ANH:RHD is complete and released because ANH has almost filled up all of the new internal drives and most of the external ones i purchased because they are the backups. One 8tb external developed a fault that couldn’t be fixed but luckily i was able to replace that and recover all but one of the files that were on it. So once ANH is done and dusted i can start to empty the internal drives to continue work on ROTJ:R. So, at the moment, i have just enough space to complete ANH:R and render out the master file. Then it’s on to the audio mix.
But i will be starting to build the models etc for ROTJ:R early next year so i’ll keep you updated about those.
So ‘hopefully mid year’ is where we’re getting summer from…
Sure, I suppose. But those of us who have been around for a while know that it’s done when it’s done.
Thanks, Man With No Name. That’s wonderful to hear!
no problem man.
When has Adywan promised a release date?
I prefer the current retcon where it just looks like he’s trolling R2. LOL
There’s one little background change that was made to TESB when it hit 4K that the Revisited version doesn’t have. On the 2011 Blu-Ray, in the three close-up shots where Luke’s X-Wing is sinking in the water, there’s a black section that’s cast over the top right corner. The 4K version fixed that by replacing the black section with more haze. You can see the differences here: https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=137645
Is this change even worth applying to TESB:R when you get to working on the Blu-Ray?
To be clear, that’s not so much a “fix” as “the 4K version didn’t ruin the scan of the film in that particular way”.
So, it’s not really worth it?
I’m just saying it’s not a “fix”, it’s a choice of what scan he wants to use.
There’s one little background change that was made to TESB when it hit 4K that the Revisited version doesn’t have. On the 2011 Blu-Ray, in the three close-up shots where Luke’s X-Wing is sinking in the water, there’s a black section that’s cast over the top right corner. The 4K version fixed that by replacing the black section with more haze. You can see the differences here: https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=137645
Is this change even worth applying to TESB:R when you get to working on the Blu-Ray?
To be clear, that’s not so much a “fix” as “the 4K version didn’t ruin the scan of the film in that particular way”.
The 19SE shot is worse, in my studies. If anything he should redo it from scratch.
Thanks, I’ll take a look at these!
I’m curious about the amount of grain and colour saturation left - with these kinds of projects, is it usually quite negligible in the final product?
It depends on if they remove the grain and color saturation. Every project is different.
Don’t get me started on Archives. The author let Lucas say whatever he wanted and let him edit himself, so there’s huge sections of quotes from him in 2019 next to quotes from him in 1976 and there’s no distinction between the quotes.
The easter eggs are hilarious!
It’s too bad I wasn’t able to proofread the dutch subtitles though, I’ve only seen the first 16 minutes but I’ve already caught a few errors and sentences that no good sound.
Count me in for help with the subs for empire 😉The easter eggs are in the dvd9 or the dvd5 disc??? And how can i watch them?
I’m not sure what the context of “Easter eggs” was in a post from 15 years ago.
Since v3.1 is inevitable, I’ll point out that the opening shot is from the SE. In 4K83, the TIE fighters are much bluer than the Star Destroyer. This change is not in the Viscomp. I believe this a power window fix and not due to the overall color grade. The fighters are blue in other shots in the same sequence where DEED uses 4K83. (FWIW, the GOUT also has blue fighters on a grey Destroyer.
Yeah, power window changes would be the death of me.
Whatever happened to this project?
It came out a year ago on Paramount+, and is now available on physical media, digital copy, and [HBO] Max.
Yeah sure.
Team Negative One has a similar project being worked on their forum.
Unfortunately I only have a really comprehensive list for RotJ so far. Waiting for 4K77 V2 before doing ANH and 4K80 for ESB.
Is there a danger, that as Disney keeps releasing OT era tv shows, that these edits will never be finished?
Hopefully not, but if there is, I’ll have your shuttle standing by…
Why would they affect Ady at all? It’s not like he works on the shows.
SomethingStarWarsRelated said:
Per the WordPress site,
“Remove Yub Nub & Victory Celebration”That must have been written waaaay back, during the briefest of times i was thinking of ending it on the funeral pyre. The ending is going to be pretty much the theatrical ending. NO planets, no Hayden, no Victory Celebration. I hate the SE planet celebrations and victory celebration music. Victory celebration sounds so out of place musically. Williams just basically ripped off the original animatic guide track ( and didn’t even bother to try and hide the fact) and it sounds so out of place in the OT. The guide track was for a Native American mini series and you can tell it still has that theme.
The original animatic guide track?
Yep. Here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdDWczJeFzI
How have I never seen this before
“Red R2” issue now fixed 😃
I guess my eyes are worse than I thought they were. I don’t see a red R2 in the 2011 footage.
The “issue” was Adywan’s original fix for having two R2’s in the scene, which was coloring one of them red (see ANHR and last week’s preview video).
Ohh ok. I see it in the original comparison. So there were always “officially” two R2s in that shot? Never noticed before.
There’s one prop heading toward camera, then the actors turn a corner and another prop heads directly away from camera.
Was it two props or hidden stitch continuity error? I asumed that lady that crosses the screen was hiding a wipe.
It’s two props.