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#45883
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Evil Empire...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/45883/action/topic#45883
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well thanks guys for your kind words and support, lets hope Warbler returns to the boards, he has made some interesting points in all the forums he's posted in, if ya read this mate....hurry ya ass back!

Bossk.................I'd love to take you up on the challenge

but alas you are 5 years too late! Quit drinking cuz it was tooooooooooooooooooooooo much fun! But I can always hook you up with some lean mean drinking machines anytime!

BTW..yes this probably does mean you'd win by default, as the chances of you getting me to drink again are astronomical!
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#45799
Topic
Evil Empire...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/45799/action/topic#45799
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Warbler, first of all, is leaving the forum because people disagree with your point of view not in the least bit extreme?

If you don't like, or are not willing to accept, that people have different views from you then the simplest cause of action is to avoid reading this section of the forum. It doesn't stop you from posting in any other section or having the opportunity to discuss Star Wars with fellow fans. As I stated on a couple of occasions, in this topic & other areas, if you discuss politics, YOU ARE PLAYING WITH FIRE. Everyone on this board has an opnion & whether or not you agree with it, it is their opinion & you MUST atleast acknowledge it, you donot have to agree with it but the least you can do is acknowledge it. Is it not written in your constitution that people have the freedom of speech? Well that's exactly what is occuring here, everyone is expressing their views in an adult & civilised way. The same goes for everyone here, I'm not singling you out, I am being as mindful of my own words as I'd expect anyone reading this to be.

If you have been caused any offence by any comments that have been written here, then accept the apologies that have been offered and move on. I was offended by some of your comments BUT you learn to accept that it is impossible to sway someone to your way of thinking if they are passionate about the point in question. I am not going to leave the board because of some of the opinions you have expressed, I don't agree with all of them, but then that's my prerogative. I will just continue with my insignificant life knowing that out there are a lot of people with very independant view points & surely that is a great thing?

You are clearly a patriot, and again thats an admirable quality, not being an American I can't share your enthusiasm. I am as patriotic as the next person when it comes to verbal assaults on my country, but at the same time, I can also question the legitimacy of some the UK's actions in recent years, that again is my prerogative, it is my right, as a UK citizen, living in a Democracy to question the Status Quo, my vote will depend on them seeing another 3-4 years in power. That is what living in a "free society" is all about. There will always be those that are patriotic and will accept any decision made by the powers that be and there will always be those that oppose! Nothing you or I can do about it!

Our comments are not anti-American, our comments are questioning the legality and the execution of recent engagements, which is well within our civil rights.

Now correct me if I'm wrong but were there other countries involved in the recent occupation of Iraq? Yes or no? Were there other countries involved in the recent emancipation of Afghanistan? Yes or no?

The answer to both is yes. Then it is obviously fair to assume that whatever doubts some of the posters hold is also reflected at these other countries. I have never witnessed such an anti war demonstration as I did in London, Bristol and Cardiff, to name but a few UK cities, where thousands and thousands of people, I think in London there was upwards of 500,000 people, took to the streets to let OUR government know that we did not want to see another war in Iraq. Obviously there was also a vocal majority that wanted to see an end to SH regime. Both sides were allowed to express their opinions in a vocal BUT NON VIOLENT manner. I'm quite sure that the Governments decision to send troops to the Gulf will affect their ability to win the next General Election, but as I do not have a time machine I cannot make any further comment on the outcome.

Anyway I think I've said all I want to say at this time. The debate will no doubt rage on, but please just read and re-read what I have written (the first couple of paragraphs if necessary) and take the time to let them sink in. You will always disagree with someone here, as I will, but don't let your anger cloud your judgement and fruitlessly leave this board. You will just be letting your anger win, and that's not a good thing. There is nothing worse than cutting off your nose, to spite your face!

Well I doubt this will help matters any, but the least i can do is try.......

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#45758
Topic
Evil Empire...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/45758/action/topic#45758
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Originally posted by: RRS-1980

Have you heard about Crusades? The ones aimed to liberate the Holy Land from Muslims? Everything in the name of Christianity and God?



Wow RRS I'm glad you picked up on that! I was thinking exactly the same whilst writing my lengthy response, but totally forgot about it by the end of it!

There are many who also feel that the Crusades against the Middle East ARE the cause of the HATRED that many muslims show towards the West. Yes, the Christian infidels!

I read an incredibly interesting series of articles on a website, that primarily deals with Astronomy(lol), about the whole 9/11 tragedy and the troubles between East and West. They had an interesting theory about WHY the World Trade Centre was the chosen target and the reasons behind the attack. A war that has waged for nearly 1,000 years......the Crusades!

They argue that the WTC was targetted as part of an attempt to start a Jihad (for those that don't know it's a Muslim Holy War) between Christianity (being America) and Islam (being the Islamic states of the Middle East). Within the text of the essay's they theorise that the WTC was targetted in revenge for the capture of the Twin Pillars of Islam during the Crusades. What does this have to do with the USA you might ask? Well if you consider that the most hated of the Christian soldiers, by Islam, were the KNIGHTS TEMPLAR, responsible for the capture of the Twins Pillars, and then consider that their (knights templar) descendants were known as THE PILGRIM FATHERS!!!! Now if you know your American history, doesn't it add up to a wonderful conspiracy theory?

It's all speculation I know but it's an awesome read and doesn't half make you think and possibly reconsider your preconceptions of what is REALLY going on behind closed doors, things that joe normal WILL NEVER know about!

If anyone is interested in ploughing through these very lengthy essays then please say so & I'll be happy to post a link here on the board!
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#45756
Topic
Evil Empire...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/45756/action/topic#45756
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab


If the IRA murder people then they should be brought to justice. But why can't Ireland do that themselves? The US doesnt' need to invade Ireland to stop the IRA. That's overkill. And "international" terrorism is attacking civilian targets in foreign countries. It has nothing to do with where you get the guns.

Edit: Look. I admit ignorance. I don't know enough about the IRA to argue any points made about them.



Hey no worries matey! Thanks for taking the time to write such a lengthy & very mature response!

I can offer a few reasons (from my own limited understanding of the Irish situation, which has over the last few years ALMOST resolved itself)

The problem with the violence in Ireland comes from the countries split. The IRA are loyal to Eire (or Southern Ireland, if you like), they target mainland England and Northern Ireland, which is an English colony, if you want to put it in laymans terms, because they refuse to accept English rule. Unfortunately the rift between north and south has been in existence for 100's of years. Religion is a major factor, Eire being Catholic and Northern Ireland being predominantly Protestant, although Belfast, the capital of Northern Ireland has both a Protestant sector & a Catholic sector! Confusing eh?

Now the Irish (Eire) govt.won't stop the IRA because the very party, Sinn Feinn support the IRA, which stands for Irish Republican Army. It was long believed by the British govt. that the IRA had leaders in Sinn Fein.

Another factor is the invasion of Ireland by Oliver Cromwell, during the English Civil War, around 1650. The slaughter of the Irish people by Cromwell's army and subsequent occupation of the Northern territory has been considered by the majority of historians to be the cause for the resentment in Ireland and the subsequent terrorist attacks! There are more factors to consider but perhaps I should stop there with the history lesson before I bore everyone to death!!

The problem with a war on terror is; how do you know when the terrorists have been defeated? How do you win a war on terror? As long as there are Superpowers (for want of a better word) flexing their might and influence upon others, there will always be a cause to fight against! I'm not solely pointing the finger at the US here, Russia has had it's fair share of terrorists, as have the majority of the Arabic states! You could even take it down to the base level of corporate espionage...as long as one Company is seen as controlling a majority, theer will always be those that stand against it, oppose it and will fight to undermine it.

IMHO the war on terrorism WILL NEVER END, it can only lead to more misery. All I can see is the war on terrorism eventually leading to world war. You may think I'm over reacting but............

How long do you think that other countries of significant power will stand by and watch as lesser countries get bombed back into the stone age? It will only take one bombing campaign to the wrong country and events will spiral so quickly beyond anyone's control that we won't have time to consider what exactly has gone on before all hell breaks loose!


I'm not trying to contest that at times it hasn't been necessary to "remove" troubling individuals from their seats of power. Perhaps what troubles most people in the free Western world is the manner in which these recent reciprications have taken place?

Just as a point of interest....Bin Laden was trained by the C.I.A and funded by the US govt to combat the Russian occupation of Afghanistan!

Also, it is worthy of noting that during the rebuilding of Afghanistan more American troops were guarding construction sites for newly lain OIL PIPES than anywhere else. An event which also occured during the recent re-occupation of Iraq! It is factor's such as this that make people question the validity of the US's aims in the Middle East.

Perhaps lessons COULD be learned from the mistakes the British Empire made? A country's population that feels threatened and repressed WILL rebel against the occupiers, with their freedom gone, their pride and nobility stripped of them is it any wonder that they will rise against any occupying force? This can clearly be seen today with the people of Iraq.....I find it amazing that after the mass bombing of their cities and people that the US troops assumed they would be welcomed with open arms for ridding them of a tyrant! The replacement of one tyrannical leader with another (in the eyes of the middle eastern world, not my opnions) will only further add to the grief, misery and resentment already present within such a troubled region of the World. I do not presume to know what the answer to the Middle Eastern crisis is...but perhaps the relaxing of the Iron Glove of America would be a step in the right direction?

OMG! You can so tell I've written these sections independant of each other & now have had trouble making them flow but what the hell...i dont care Im just one dumb Brit who's opnions dont really count for shit in the grand scheme of things!

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#45743
Topic
Evil Empire...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/45743/action/topic#45743
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Originally posted by: Warbler

maybe because the IRA didn't fly Airplanes into buildings and kill over 3000 people



Ok.......as a Brit I find that extremely offensive. Perhaps before posting such a comment you should have read up a little about the IRA's mainland (meaning ENGLAND) terror campaign. Over a period of years the IRA detonated several explosive devices in PUBLIC AREA's (Manchester SHOPPING CENTRE & London's Canary Wharf to name but 2), not to mention the number of Northern Irish citizens that were killed in bomb blasts & British Soldiers that were shot/blown up whilst on a tour of duty in Northern Ireland.

Now that number may not add up to 3,000 people, it might, I haven't ever bothered to work it out, but my point is......2 innocent people killed in a terrorist attack is surely as evil and sick as 3,000 innocent people being killed? It is not the number of people that are killed that matters, but the attack on personal freedom that counts.

btw..i do find it extremely upsetting that the War (farce) On Terrorism hasn't targetted groups such as the IRA...now why is that I wonder???? Would it have anything to do with the US governments prior support & funding of the IRA?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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#45742
Topic
Evil Empire...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/45742/action/topic#45742
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Originally posted by: Bossk
Sounds like fun!

As for Yanks not being able to handle their beer... I would like to accept that challenge as extended. Since it's your challenge, djjd, you're buying. Dayv, I think you and I need to save face for our fellow U.S.ians. Shall we?

"Pints?!?! They come in pints?!?!"



lmao!!!

Do you think you'd be able to drink 20+ pints of 10% strength lager & then still stumble home? Or would we find you slumped in a gutter somewhere with chronic alcohol poisoning? hehehe

Anyways........I've always chuckled at the size of your Budweiser cans..they're the same size as our cans of coca cola!

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#45580
Topic
Evil Empire...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/45580/action/topic#45580
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In Belgium I met some very nice Americans, Soth Africans and Italians.

After a nice meal and some bevvies the topic of conversation was changed from smalltime chit chat to topics that shouldnt be discussed amongst strangers:

religion & politics!

after an hour or so of heated, often fiery discussion, one of the Americans (who was quite drunk..you yanks don't seem to be able to handle your beer), a Catholic was so insulted by the comments of the other American, who was Protestant, that he resorted to physical violence to get his opnions across, the whole thing spiralled out of control & led to some nasty cuts and bruising! A very unpleasant affair!!!
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#45447
Topic
Evil Empire...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/45447/action/topic#45447
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I'd like to stay in the debate, as i find peoples opinions on politics fascinating BUT......... it's gonna get ugly real fast & I really don't wanna cause anyone offence on this 'ere forum! the problem is, we all have opinions on what is right & wrong but when you bring patriotism into the mix things get blown out of proportion really quickly! It's kinda like meeting strangers for the 1st time & after the small talk & a few beers you begin discussing other things such as religion............it's not good & only leads to intense arguments & as I witnessed in Belgium whilst travelling.....serious violence

Im sure I wont be able to resist popping my opinions in at some point BUT i shall do my best to resist & just watch the battle from the sidelines

Plus..im totally shit at arguing...i always end up giving up! lol
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#45410
Topic
Evil Empire...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/45410/action/topic#45410
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as i said im taking a back seat & i mean it....

all that will happen is you'll argue your point & reference other figures in history & I'll make my point that perhaps the same action should be targeted against the REAL culprit & so on & so on until we have our own lil cyber world war 3...so you guys keep debating & just ignore the cynical old brit from overseas...

thanks you & goodnight

*explodes*
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#45378
Topic
Evil Empire...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/45378/action/topic#45378
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um i think im gonna take a back seat on this topic & let you pro-bush/anti-bush yankees duke it out amongst yourselves!

i dont think its fair for a Brit, such as myself, thats not a particular fan of about the last 3 administrations foreign policy to comment on whether the worlds a better place without Saddam being in power ( seeing as you guys set himup in the 1st place, as you did with Bin Laden when it suited your needs during the Cold War)

Oh bollocks I said it
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#45376
Topic
What is wrong with Return of the Jedi?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/45376/action/topic#45376
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hehhe ok but you have to promise to post after this that you've read it so i can go back & edit it! ok? deal?

ok......

CENSOREDCENSOREDCENSOREDCENSOREDCENSOREDCENSOREDCENSOREDCENSOREDCENSOREDCENSORED

I like eating jelly raw, RRRRRRRRRAAAAAWWWRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH i said!

CENSOREDCENSOREDCENSOREDCENSOREDCENSOREDCENSOREDCENSOREDCENSOREDCENSOREDCENSORED



Well thats kinda all i know for now!
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#45360
Topic
Evil Empire...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/45360/action/topic#45360
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
Caveman hit each other in the head because children saw their parents doing it



Hehehe

Hmmm...who showed the childrens parents how to be violent?

lol omg maybe it was the egg?

no it couldnt possibly have been....must have been the chicken?

O who knows......I feel it is in our very nature to destroy all we don't understand. War has plagued our lil planet for 1,000's of years...shit man the only way to stop it is as the great Bill Hicks said:

"Not only do i think pot should be legalised, I think it should be mandatory..............

I have never seen people on pot get in a fight because it is F****** impossible....

'Hey buddy...', 'hey what?.......'

End of argument! It's kinda hard to hold a resentment when you can't remember 'em"

RIP Bill
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#45356
Topic
Last line of episode 3?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/45356/action/topic#45356
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I am your father will lose all its dramatic impact when watching the whole saga in order. By the time ep3 comes around & we've all seen weeniee lil anakin strapped in that suit who WONT know?

Then when ep5 comes around to your viewing leisure anyone watching it will be like "um yeah so i didnt make that connection already after ep3 finished & ep 4 started? Dohhhhhhhhh!"

& so it would seem that forever tainted the Star Wars saga is & we should be forced at red hot poker in the japs eye point to watch them in this order:

4-5-6-1-2-3

God im so pissed off (
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#44698
Topic
Okay, what did we LIKE about the Special Editions?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/44698/action/topic#44698
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hmm things about the SE i liked...........


the extended Stormtrooper scene where they find the droids....anything with the Stormies is great!

Han running around the corner & there being hundreds of Stormies there plus a nice shot of a hangar complete with tie-fighters!

the Millenium Falcon exiting Docking bay 94

the Death star battle.....so much faster & cooler

the new planet explosions

the bantha herd in ROTJ


Ok the one major change I REALLY disliked was the removal of the line "Bring My Shuttle" & replacing it with whatever crap line they put in about alerting star destroyers to expect some under pants or some such shit!

FFS It didn't sounds remotely like JEJ!!! It's a pointless change that did nothing & the additional CGI fest would still have worked with the original line!
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#43797
Topic
Plot holes in the SW saga
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/43797/action/topic#43797
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Originally posted by: jimbo
Actually I found the Hobbits beating orcs to be just as stupid. I really wouldn't have had any problem with the ewoks if they didn't beat the clones. The line "aren't you a little short for a stormtrooper" was always in the movie and directly implys there all the same. That was in the movie long before the prequals.




FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You just don't even give other people's opinions or explanations a chance do you?

You keep using that BS line as your only source of argument & there are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many explanations as to why that line was used & most of them have been offered here by other posters. I am personally getting quite sick of your ignorance. STOP TELLING PEOPLE THEY ARE WRONG, YOU ARE NOT IN POSSESSION OF ALL THE FACTS! RESPECT OTHER PEOPLE's OPINIONS & YOU MIGHT FIND OTHER PEOPLE BEGINNING TO RESPECT YOU!