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- #56392
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- Ewoks do what Ewoks do
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those little bastards will get what they deserve....little sods
those little bastards will get what they deserve....little sods
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those little bastards will get what they deserve....little sods
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- #56389
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- Star Wars Episode III (spoilers) - a general discussion thread
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its called "this weapon is your life" i think & it's basically a short 3-5 minute behind the scenes show of the weapons being made for Ep3, in it they show some of the Wookie Bowcasters & other larger Wookie guns (they look like heavy cannons to me) so the Wookie close ups might look a bit hmmmmmmmmmm to start with but seeing them on film in the heat of action (hopefully pulling Clones arms out of their sockets) MIGHT look pretty cooool.....ya never know....
BTW I shall keep my time honoured PT tradition of going to see the movie thinking it will suck balls & see if im pleasantly surprised but not before revelling like a 3 yr old at all the trailers that are just soooo much coooler than the movie itself!
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- #56173
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- Episode I-VI: Archival Editions
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/56173/action/topic#56173
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didn't they release about 5 versions of the Star Wars trilogy on VHS throughout the 90's? & we still bought EVERY set!!!
I own the original CBS FOX video release
1991 Widescreen release (1st time in widescreen)
1994 Digitally remastered
1995 THX mastered trilogy (last time originals released)
1997? Star Wars special editions
2000(2001) Star Wars trilogy with Ep2 sneak preview
So it COULD be possible (& with GL anything is) for them to release ANOTHER box set, happens with other dvd titles ALL the time..... 1st release, 6 months later DELUXE set & then a year later the vanilla DVD.
I'm fully expecting a FULL 6 film STAR WARS SAGA dvd boxset at some point, like im expecting all Lord Of The Rings films boxed togethe rin the super humdinger of all mo-fo sets with an hour added to each version (again)
These companies have us all by the balls & thats where they'll keep us!
BTW...im not agreein with Jimbo or his love for the digital bits, im saying it wouldnt surprise me if they decided to rip us off just that little bit more! but hopefully this will be the only version on dvd & isn't it annoying that the OT dvd doesn't match the nice looking PT dvds.......cunning or intentional?
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- #55770
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- Could This Be True or Just An Elaborate Hoax? Something even worse than the Holiday Special?
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55770/action/topic#55770
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Drinking in a Coruscant bar in 1982 when the place wasn't thought of until late 80's early 90's PUR-LEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASE!
On the other hand, it's a funny funny read & damned scary! That moustache of Christopher Lee's is just dreadful!
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- #55757
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- Episode I-VI: Archival Editions
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55757/action/topic#55757
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HotRod.................................................That musta have eithe rtaken some serious smoking or some serious thinking....fair play to ya! Lets hope you're on the right track, I can't think of anything else to comment right now..i need to let it sink in!
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- #55691
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- Episode I-VI: Archival Editions
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55691/action/topic#55691
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the set also contains the Star Wars scripts & some art prints. It's a great set, I think it originally sold for about £50, I've known people to get lucky & buy it from ebay for a mere £20, but then some who have paid £100's, just keep an eye out & you might strike it lucky, defintely for me it was the Holy Grail.
It's packed away at the mo as I've just recently moved, I'll try and dig it out tomorrow & fully list the contents as I'm sure I've left a few things out!
It's quite interesting watching all the documentaries & interviews with George Lucas over the years & various releases of the OT, you really can see where he's changed his mind. Nowadays he claims it's the way it was always meant to be, but it seems it wasn't...perhaps that's why he wants rid of the OT once & for all, its not the movies but the evidence of him contradicting himself that he's trying to eradicate!!!
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- #55688
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- Episode I-VI: Archival Editions
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55688/action/topic#55688
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great wasnt it??? i remember coming home from the midnight showing & jumping on the net to tell all my US mates the intricate details of the plot
hahahaim not lucky enough to have any original dvds....im sticking to my 5 versions of the OT on.....dare i say it....VHS! including my Executor boxset...mmmm...that set is sweeeeeet!
My love of all things original was completed by finding the Soundtrack boxset, including a 4th cd of alternate takes of various pieces of music in HMV about a year ago for £20!
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- #55686
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- I THINK I FIGURED IT OUT - WHY SO MANY SW FANS DISLIKED THE PT...
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55686/action/topic#55686
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- #55682
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- I THINK I FIGURED IT OUT - WHY SO MANY SW FANS DISLIKED THE PT...
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55682/action/topic#55682
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well glad you like it here, i haven't been here very long myself, bout a year or so but keep disappearing & only only tending to post when i feel i got something to have a laugh about or feel extremely passionate about, but the chaps & chappettes on this board really do make ya feel welcome & its great fun reading through everyone's very different opinions & idea's not just about Star Wars but about whatever they're in too! & i just cant get enough of reading the arguments that Jimbo ALWAYS seems to be at the centre of!
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- #55678
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- Episode I-VI: Archival Editions
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55678/action/topic#55678
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there are others that too feel your pain!
I was mortified when i read those wish list/proposed changes, so many months ago, embarrased to be a Star Wars fan, I was!
When is Lucas just gonna give up the ghost & leave em alone???
Every change brings them closer to becoming THAT episode of the Muppets featuring Luke & the droids........how long til the 2 grumpy old sods start heckling Luke as he tries to best Vader in combat???
No doubt I shall find out on Sept 20th!!
Yup i said Sept 20th! Oh tis joyous! In the UK we get the set a whole 24 hours early! I may have had to wait 14 days to see Spidey 2 but now I get to tell u all in advance how much theyve been changed!
"Aaaaahhh, revenge really is a dish best served cold"
*evil cackling ahoy*
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- #55677
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- I THINK I FIGURED IT OUT - WHY SO MANY SW FANS DISLIKED THE PT...
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55677/action/topic#55677
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where does it suggest in the Star Wars movies that Alderaan is more important than Naboo?
yes Naboo might be a back water world, geographically (or whatever the space term is) but does that really mean it has no political weight whatsoever? Look at the chief politician FROM NABOO...he becomes the fricking Emperor, not bad for a back water world with absolutely sod all going for it!
One thing that I had forgotten to include that I had to check up on was the fact that not only do the Naboo back this increase in taxation of trade routes BUT.....the main route used by the Trade Federation is located by Naboo, hence the Trade Federations presence there....rather than Alderaan!
Holy shit.....I should have that Sansweet dudes job!
ps....I do understand the point you're trying to make, the movie DOES NOT make this clear at all, & in some ways makes the Naboo the bad guys! Food for thought
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- #55675
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- I THINK I FIGURED IT OUT - WHY SO MANY SW FANS DISLIKED THE PT...
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OKay, where is all this information coming from? because it's certainly not coming from the movie. The opening crawl merely tells us that the taxation of trade routes is in dispute. That's it. If naboo was the primary supporter of the taxation, we need to find out about that, but even so, that does not neccessarily explain the blockade, and certainly not the invasion. Why blockade a small, out of the way planet like Naboo, when they could go after a much higher profile planet, say Alderaan. If they're trying to make a political point, blockading a small, peaceful planet is not the best way to go about it. Unfortunately, this still doesn't explain why the Trade Federation would invade the Naboo. What would there be for them to gain from it? Nothing. What could they lose? Everything. It seems to me that while the blockade possibly has political justifications (although they are never discussed in the film, which is a *big* problem) there is absolutely no reason for the Federation to escalate things by invading Naboo.
Read the novelisation, the preceeding novel (which is GL sanctioned as being a nice lead in to the phantom menace) & the Star Wars Essential Chronology (revised edition).
I would love to spend time going through your post again & commenting & replying but Im shattered after a hard days sitting on my ass going through your last post
I'm sure I'll get around to it another time & as much as I'm explaining where this additional info comes from you have to also consider this fact:
I love the fact that there are obvious emissions in the story telling & they pay a guy at Lucasfilm (Steve Sansweet) to make all this shit filler up! Man that guy has THE BEST job in the world!!!!
I want his job! Just sitting around all day chewing gum & trawling through all the BS Ask the Jedi Council questions "How can Yoda fight like a spinning top, yet need a cane to walk with" kinda thing & then just make up what he wants in response, & thats it! Star Wars canon is made!!!
GENIUS!!!
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- #55654
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- Music!
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55654/action/topic#55654
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I stopped respecting Metallica when that totally bollocks song for Mission Impossible 2 came out!
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- #55653
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- Ultimates
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55653/action/topic#55653
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Originally posted by: BosskQuote
Originally posted by: die-jarjar-die
* sits beside Bossk, sets down the gargantuan bucket of butter pop corn, cracks open a beer. Offers Bossk a tasty alcoholic beverage & preceeds to kick back & witness whatever shenanigans goes on*
Cheers, m'man.
No problemo!!!!!
always keep em chilled, never know when excitement is gonna hit!
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- #55651
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- Star Wars Episode III (spoilers) - a general discussion thread
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55651/action/topic#55651
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LUCASFILM!!!
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- #55618
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- Star Wars Episode III (spoilers) - a general discussion thread
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55618/action/topic#55618
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well i didnt know what to think of it really, hadn't put too much thought into the actual packaging itself, it was the movie title that intrigued & excited me...
well we'll find out soon enough what's going on, isn't there some sneak preview figures due out soon?
not that I'll bother getting them, Hasbro have killed my love of collecting Star wars & I'm currently in the process of looking to sell my collection....I'm sure 'll get excited when I see them but I'll let some other poor schmuck part with cash....
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- #55615
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- Star Wars Episode III (spoilers) - a general discussion thread
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55615/action/topic#55615
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they're normally pretty good with bullshit stuff & then when I found it had been posted at theforce.net I thought what the heck & posted away.
Interestingly the jedidefender site (where the photos originated) is now down! Curious eh?
Um as for the wrong figure being shown......if it's only a mock up/presentation prototype its not likely to have an official Ep3 figure...in the past when new packaging has been revealed its almost always been a previously or recently released figure stuck on just for show!
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- #55589
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- Star Wars Episode III (spoilers) - a general discussion thread
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55589/action/topic#55589
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- #55586
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- Star Wars Episode III (spoilers) - a general discussion thread
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55586/action/topic#55586
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If ya look REAL close at the bottom it actually gives a title for Episode 3................is this the OFFICIAL TITLE & OFFICIAL PACKAGING OR JUST SOME FANBOYS DREAM??????????
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- #55584
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- I THINK I FIGURED IT OUT - WHY SO MANY SW FANS DISLIKED THE PT...
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55584/action/topic#55584
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Originally posted by: Pagz
1.) The trade dispute between Naboo and the federation is never explained. There is no motivation at all. Why does the Federation invade? what is it Naboo imports or exports to make blockading them worthwhile? Naboo is supposed to be a smallish out of the way world, why would the federation blockade it instead of some more high profile world, like say, Alderaan?
Ok..................The Trade dispute is due to the HEAVY taxing BY THE REPUBLIC SENATE of space TRADING lanes used largely by THE TRADE FEDERATION. Outraged by having to pay more, on top of already extravagant taxes, the Trade Federation protest by blockading the taxations biggest supporter.....NABOO. Who is principal for getting the tax through the Senate?
Thats right.................. Palpatine.
Who's responsible for ensuring the Trade Federation know who actioned the proposed taxation?
That's right..................Darth Sidious
The Naboo have always been a peaceful race, the Trade Federation cowardly attacking a neutral world, so to speak. Palpatine, in turn, is attempting to win sympathy within the Senate, to discredit Chancellor Valorum for allowing centuries of peace to ruined through greed. He's counting on the Naboo not fighting back, when Amidala does, it sets in motion a turn of events that would change the galaxy forever.
Hmmmm.....perhaps Palpatine was always counting on Amidala fighting back to get what he wanted.....never thought of it like that before.....interesting.....
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3.) Technology. It's a lot more advanced in the PT than in the OT. I'm sorry, but any argument about the PT being in a better time for the galaxy is just bull. You seriously think the Empire would revert back to more primitive technology? There's a difference between ship design becoming more mechanical and utilitarian during the empire years than an actual about face in technology. Hell, if a 9 year old slave can builed a pod racer with a more sophisticated graphical user interface than the x-wing and tie fighters of the OT, then something is seriously wrong.
Ok thats a fair point...it's also one that I've heard since TPM came out & one that I don't really see a problem with. You have to remember that by the time the OT comes along the Rebellion has been a thorn in the side of the Empire for near on 20 years. After 20 years of fighting I'm pretty sure that the technology they're using would not so much take a step back from that used in the PT as be more hashed together. If we look back at our own history during World War 2 although weapons of war advanced (tanks, rockets, nuclear bombs read: At-At's, Star Destroyers, Death Star super laser), the ability to provide the raw materials to build these and other weapons/equipment for the soldiers began to run out, I remember reading that canvas was stretched over tanks where they had not enough steel to fully armour them.
As fo the interfaces being more primitive in the OT.............well sorry to say it but YES IT IS DUE TO PRIMITIVE SFX AT THE TIME OF MAKING THE OT. I'm sure when the 468th release on dvd comes along someone at ILM will have touched them up & they'll be as super duper as they are in the PT. BTw on a personal note i was under the impression that the displays looked very similar to the Ot, but maybe thats just me!
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5.) Force Powers. The Jedi have the ability to run super fast in the beginning of TPM, yet, when that power would have become usefull at the end of the film, with Kenobi, Qui-Gon, Maul and the shield corridor (and don't even try to explain the logic behind that one) it disappears. Some will argue Obi was tired, I say bull. It's just more dramatic if he doesn't make it through, so we convieniently forget about that power for the time being.
Well what is there to say..................................................................tension, drama, will he save his master or be forced to watch his master slain, pushing him to the point where Obi Wan (the virtuous TRUE Jedi) attacks in ANGER.................A DARK SIDE POWER. Pretty much how Luke attacks Vader in Return Of The Jedi, emotions getting in the way, is this the sign of one who is BETTER THAN YODA AT TRAINING JEDI???????? To be honest the only reason that is there is to seperate the 2 Jedi so 1 can be killed whilst the other watchs.....Nuff said!
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8.) Clone wars? what clone wars? These are clearly seperatist wars, that happen to be fought with clones.
Yes it might be the Seperatist Armies versus the Republic Armies BUT IT IS THE FIRST WAR TO HAVE USED CLONES AS SOLDIERS hence CLONE WARS
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ok, tell me why would you fix something that works.
Let me answer your question with another. Why do car companies continue to put out new models every year? Why do electronics companies continue to make newer Televisions, microwaves, DVD players, stereos, VCRs, cell phones, etc... Just because the technology works, doesn't mean the manufacturers just stop. The key to competitive business is continual innovation to make your product more desirable than your competitors.
the droids were great then so why change what they look like.
For the same reason that car companies continue to produce new models and new designs.
ok ok ok ok my last comment cuz im bored & tired now......................DOES STAR WARS EXIST IN A CAPITALIST SOCIETY? DO STAR WARS CHARACTERS SEEM OBSESSED WITH HAVING THE NEWEST T-16 SkyHopper TO BOMB AROUND IN OR DO THEY MERELY SEEM TO HAVE ONE SPACESHIP, ONE BLASTER & ONE SET OF CLOTHES (EXCEPT FOR PADME)?????????????????????????????????????????????? we're talking about science fiction here, not real life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Does it REALLY matter that the droids they use in the PT are the same they use in the OT? Perhaps its just a way for the designers of the PT to draw connections to the OT so WE, the viewers, can also form that connection & we can sit & go "oooooooooo it is Star Wars, mummy, look they've got 3PO & R2"
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- #55566
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- I THINK I FIGURED IT OUT - WHY SO MANY SW FANS DISLIKED THE PT...
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For me one of the problems with the PT has been the abuse of CGI, it occupies & consumes EVERY scene of the movie. Now some of it works reasonably well (Coruscant city scenes), some of it works REALLY badly (early JarJar in TPM, C3PO in the factory scene in AOTC) but for me the pet hate is how cartoony everything is. If you watch the battle of Naboo at the end of TPM its like watching a poor Disney movie, characters falling over, accidently blowing things up (ok so plot is integral to this argument too
) I was just appalled watching it (as a then 25 year old) BUT I saw Star Wars upon its original release in 1977...........if i could transport myself as a 3 year old to 1999 & watch TPM would I have enjoyed it? Fuck yeah! I think any kid would want to be either Anakin or Padme & have a good old chuckle at the poor misfortunes of JarJar....but im not 3..i dont want to see Star Wars characters getting farted on or stepping in poo, where the fuck does that fit into Star Wars? Commentators spelling everything out for you just as its about to happen.............lame!So perhaps the problem with the PT is NOT the movies themselves BUT THE FANS? Think about what I said in the last paragraph..if i was 3 years old I WOULD FUCKING LOVE THE PHANTOM MENACE, probably as passionately as I love the OT, but then perhaps not, children today don't seem to have the attention span of the children of yesteryear, but thats totally off the point.
So as a now 30 yr old what do I like about the PT? Well the script sucks ass for the most part BUT the STORY kicks ass! The almost Shakespearian playout of events concerning the downfall of an entire Galaxy is incredible, & for that we must acknowledge George Lucas's skill at writing story. I am so intrigued by how the story plays out I cant stop thinking about where its heading next. Palpatine is slowly becoming my favourite villain in the Star Wars Saga, so cunning, so sly, so ingenious. Obviously we know Palpatine forges the Empire & the Jedi are hunted down & exterminated.....but how??? & why??? Do the Jedi confront Palpatine & Palpatine is forced to remove the threat b yany means necessary or does he use the Jedi's apparant involvement in secretly cloning an Army as evidence that they were preparing a military coup & thus branding them traitors & outlaws...these questions, & more, I hope to have answered in Episode 3, the shitty eye candy & dick jokes the kids can have, the Vader being transformed the gay fan boys can have, I'm just gonna be content with seeing how this EPIC story concludes.
& just to start an arguement I'd even go so far as to say the STORY (not script, dialogue or individual story elements but the WHOLE kaboodle) is far better than the story of the OT!
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- #55565
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- Ultimates
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55565/action/topic#55565
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- #55511
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- I'm thinking lawsuit...
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55511/action/topic#55511
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- spider-man 2
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55332/action/topic#55332
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Originally posted by: Han's Girlfriend
I think that the next logical step would be Venom.
I hope they won't go with the Harry-becomes-the Goblin storyline. I think that last scene with him in the movie shows that he realizes that his father was the green goblin and that he forgives Spider-Man. I know it's different in the comics but it would be rather boring if they used a Goblin as a villain AGAIN. There are loads of cool villains in the Spider-Man comics so would be stupid to use the some sort twice.
well in the spidey mythos, Harrys obsession with revenge against Spiderman drives him into a deep psychosis where he actually believes he is the green goblin, he believes he is really seeing & chatting to his father, who basically orders him to succeed him & destroy spiderman. Obviously its all in his head, but pretty much how they laid it out in the movie is a nice introduction to the eventual return of the Green Goblin.
As for Eddie Brock...........I belive he was seen in a brief cameo in the 1st film during the Daily Bugle scene, I'll rewatch the movie to double check!
I personally agree with the comment made about the alien symbiote costume, I think for the story to work you really need to introduce him slowly, have the fated shuttle mission with John Jameson becoming infected by the symbiote, Spidey getting "attached" to it & then trying to destroy it (this COULD happen in film 3) the film COULD end wit Eddie Brock becoming Venom.
One character people seem to be overlooking as a potential villain for film 3 is.......
THE LIZARD
aka Doc Connors...........
In spidey 2 he comments on his close friendship with Otto Octavius, i'm assuming then it wouldnt be too difficult to introduce some form of story in which octavius & Connors were working on gene replacement therapy.......Octavius also working for Oscorp, cor this is all getting a tad incestuous!
Im a tad worried though at the over use of the revenge against Spiderman theme...it works ok for 2 movies & the return of the green goblin, but over a series of movies??? just a wee bit tooo dull..only my 2 cents!
Oh yeah, I thought the movie ROCKED!!!!!
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- #55017
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- Prequels from an Expanded Universe POV
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55017/action/topic#55017
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arrgghh let the headaches & confusion commence