To my knowledge, nobody here has used any of FDSW’s content, and any suggestion to use it is quickly but politely shut down.
Looks like there is some effort to do the whole thing
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ALLOL
ALLOL? What does that mean?
Hal has finally lost his mind after thinking about TROS for such an extended duration.
Instead of giving Rey only Leia’s saber, Luke gives her the entire Jedi Council’s lightsabers. She immediately attaches them all together like whiteboard markers and starts twirling the resulting mess of a staff while singing Duel of the Fates to herself as Luke watches on awkwardly with the look of someone who is just so tired.
It would be so easy to cut together “You’ll take a thousand sabers to Exegol” from dialogue already in that scene.
I agree that Rey responding to Palpatine either calling her nothing or a scavenger by stating she is a Jedi is the best thing, thematically. It’s the literal culmination of her character arcs - in TFA she hates being a lowly scavenger, in TLJ she hates that she’s a nobody in her own story. By the end of TROS, she has dealt with those things and become (in Joseph Campbell’s terms) the Master of Both Worlds, which in the SW universe has always meant being a Jedi.
Meanwhile, Palpatine being all the Sith is kind of irrelevant to anything meaningful across the trilogy.
Cap is still helping me track down some more instances of Rey saying “I am” to help smooth over that transition (thank you, Cap!!); but in the meantime, I wanted to get back into the scene after stepping away from it for a bit. If it’s not 100% yet, that’s fine - hopefully we’ll be able to use some of the new clips - but for now, I have it with Sade’s Palpy dialogue rearrangement, the added Rey pant as before, and a new cut of “am a Jedi.” The big thing I’m curious about for this test: I also tweaked the video somewhat to see if I could fudge the lip sync at all, so I’d love feedback on that!
This is looking really good to me! The only thing that still sticks out to me is the “am,” and it’s that syllable I’m having trouble finding anywhere useably in the movies. I’ve now checked TFA and TLJ, but I haven’t been through TROS yet, so hopefully there’ll be something in there. After that, it’s time to dive into interviews and other Daisy Ridley audio.
Has anyone tried flipping Palpatine’s lines so he says “I am all the Sith, you are nothing, a scavenger girl is no match for the power in me”? Logically it flows slightly better in my opinion, but I don’t know if there’s enough coverage to put it together that way.
YES. And through editing, imply he only appears as Snoke to Kylo Ren.
Kylo’s mask is actual an AR headset.
Use the Adam Driver voice AI to record new Kylo lines to dub in whenever his mouth isn’t onscreen, saying things like “Huh? Who’s this guy? Sounds like Snoke. Oh, there’s Snoke, now my helmet is back on. You guys don’t see this?”
When he reforges the helmet in TROS, do similar editing and AI voice dubbing to imply he now sees everyone at the FO meeting table as Snokes.
In the cave scene of TROS, when the flashlight gag happens, replace Poe’s flashlight with an actual lightsaber to eliminate the gag. The flashlight remains a lightsaber throughout the tunnel sequence, but it is never commented on.
On Kijimi, when Finn and Poe argue and Finn leaves to find Rey, show Finn taking that same lightsaber from Poe as he gives Poe the binoculars. In the hallway scene where Finn dramatically looks around, have him ignite the saber. The saber remains ignited as he runs toward Rey and calls her name, but when she pushes him back she also force-pulls the saber into her hand.
On Ach-To, cut everything about Leia and her training. When Rey “takes both sabers to Exegol,” it’s the Skywalker saber and the Finn/Poe saber.
Edit the celebration at the end of the movie so Finn and Poe aren’t excited about seeing each other, they’re both excited about seeing the Finn/Poe Saber.
I’d be really interested to see the latest cut of this.
This version isn’t done yet. The version I did a couple of years ago I still have up, but it’s not up to my current standards. Let me know if you are still interested in it though.
In that case, I’ll wait for the updated version.
Replace Snoke with pre-VFX shots of Andy Serkis.
I also think we’d undercut our newly minted themes by adding it back in. “See Poe, there are good people willing to stand up in their own - oh, wait, nope, never mind, all dead, disregard that.”
The weird thing is that Babu just decides to send a transmission to Endor on a whim and prays that there are no Empire sympathizers at the most significant Imperial archeological site ever. Jannah hadn’t even heard of him before she got the message. And yeah, that’s 100% a nitpick, and normally I wouldn’t worry too much about nitpicks; but the R&D was already done, so why not address it?
I guess…here’s my thinking overall: The official film is already held together by duct tape and wishful thinking, so at this point, I just want the main plot elements (like the dagger) to make some amount of sense. Like I’ve said all along, if it doesn’t work, it doesn’t work; but I wouldn’t want to just throw out RL’s idea without giving it a fair chance. We’re waiting on other shots in the meantime anyway.
+1
I’d also appreciate a link, please.
I’d like a link for this as well, please.
Redub the TLJ soundtrack with Evangelion music.
I actually think it’s an unusual idea rather than a bad one - I reckon it would be cool - but it tonally belongs in this thread more than any other.
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I agree with you in theory, Burbin, but I don’t think the film articulates any of that at all clearly - it’s more like, that’s what the film could be with a bit of massaging. Which to me personally is exactly what the restructured conversation provides. It changes it from a mess you can read stuff into if you work at it, into subtext with a clear trajectory and purpose. (That’s my reaction to both versions, anyway.)
My original worry with some of the graffiti was that it was going to be too subtle for casual audience members to catch; but I think it would actually work perfectly if we can iron out the rest of the audio for this sequence. More observant viewers would be able to see that Kijimi was inspired by Luke by looking at the graffiti, and that then quietly foreshadows the moment with Poe later where it comes to the forefront; but the point of all of our additions is still made clear for those yuppies who won’t pick up on little clues like that. Kind of an /r/MovieDetails moment.
I agree with this. Kijimi in riot is a great idea, in my opinion; as someone else said in this thread, taking disposable moments and pumping them full of meaning.
I’d be really interested to see the latest cut of this.
Yeah, It’s backward. Here’s the other ILM clip 2:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9d1bkRC0Hs
I may still try to blur it for a background shot or something.
I couldn’t actually spot the Ghost in there after watching it a couple of times, sadly.
Inspired by Sherlock’s clip, I decided to put some time aside to actually contribute something for the first time in ages.
Here’s my take on Kijimi in chaos and a new idea on how to set up the conversation Poe has with Zorii.
I don’t really remember this scene in the theatrical cut and I can’t tell what’s been altered here. So, that’s surely a good sign that the edit has been done well!
I think just trimming the bit about “the cries” works best for Kijimi In Revolt regardless.
I’d like to try and record some stuff once we know exactly what we need, but I’m not sure if I have a space near me where I could really go and yell battle dialogue a hundred metres from a recorder lol.
The trouble with the Rogue One clip is that it’s facing the wrong way. There is an ILM clip that passes through the fleet which is incredible but it was only a low render. Why design all those ships if you’re not gonna add some awesome cinematic shots to show them off?
Could it just be mirrored? The Ghost is a pretty symmetrical ship. Or do you mean it’s facing backwards?
I haven’t seen the ILM clip. Sounds frustratingly cool, though.
Yeah, the Zori stuff in general is weird. I wish it was more of Poe who was convincing Zori that there are “more of us”, rather than Poe being so hopeless. But, I guess it is sort of necessary for his arc. But he even gives up at the battle of Exegol basically. Everyone is begging Poe to tell them what they should do, and he basically says, “Well, I guess we’re all gonna die now…” I guess it isn’t bad, just wished they would’ve expressed Poe’s growth as a leader in a different way.
I read it more that he goes on an arc to being a good leader and that final moment of despair is the film giving us a momentary fake-out before the big payoff.
I agree, it would make more sense for Zorii to say “You don’t believe that,” then it sounds like she’s telling Poe something he’s told her, but is clearly doubting.
I’ve been tinkering with that Poe/Zorii scene. Unfortunately, after getting my hands dirty with it, I think Cap was right about this one and I was wrong. The way Oscar delivers the Crait line, I have to agree that it feels awkward to try and segue from that to Keri Russell’s line. So here’s my rough suggestion. I may be overthinking this, and I almost definitely overengineered it. But that’s okay.
Changes:
- Swapped Poe’s line “Maybe it is” to later. Replaced it with a Poe sigh, from Disney Infinity, as a segue into the Crait discussion.
- Added “over” to “Maybe it is [over].”
- Cut some footage to remove “Everybody’s given up.”
- Changed Zorii’s line from “I don’t believe you believe that,” to “I don’t believe that,” mainly to make the line less clunky.
- Added Zorii saying “Just listen…” (Ideally, I’d want to find a better instance of Keri Russell saying this, so please let me know if you can think of any.)
- Added some “For Skywalker!”s. Looped some footage to linger on this moment a little longer, and allow it to resonate.
- It felt a little empty to me here, so I popped in some Force Theme.
- Removed Zorii saying “Remember?” I can only assume that this was a (very weak) reference to some past adventure she had with Poe; but that’s…kind of weird, right? Wouldn’t Poe have already learned not to give up, if he’s already gone through all of this? (Poe’s is less a character arc, and more a character trigonometric function.)
- Slid Zorii’s dialogue around a bit in the scene for pacing purposes (and to synchronize head bobs).
- Swapped around a couple shots of Poe, so that he nods after “There’s more of us.” (This also allows the final shot of the scene to hold a little longer, so I think it feels less rushed when we cut to the next scene.)
- Added combat sounds in the background throughout the conversation, but brought up the volume levels slightly when Zorii tells Poe to listen to it. (For a final mix, I’d want to confer with axlanian and get a sense of how he’s working on the combat audio for Kijimi.)
Also, I was thinking, perhaps it would be better to just have generic “rebellion” sounds when the gang lands on Kijimi, without any calls to Skywalker – they can hear that the Kijimi-imians are fighting the First Order, but don’t know why. Maybe Poe’s used to people fighting here? It is gang turf, after all. It’s only when Poe, at his lowest, hears the calls “For Skywalker!” that he realizes they’ve been fighting for something greater. That the Resistance has indeed brought hope. That perhaps, the war isn’t completely lost after all. (Perhaps, should he call on them later, his allies might even show up…?)
I don’t think this would affect any potential graffiti we’d add. Maybe the gang is still bummed that Chewie violently exploded, so they’re a little distracted and not paying attention to the details around them.
This is incredibly well done! And man, what a way to take a basically meaningless conversation and make it a meaningful moment that drives the themes. My only observation is that the blaster fire is a bit too regularly spaced while they’re talking - maybe vary the timing up a bit. Other than that, I’d never be able to tell this was edited in any way.
As for the distant shouts and echoes, it would be easy to actually go out and record some distant shouts and echoes if need be. I agree it would be better to have generic anti-First-Order sentiment than anything specifically referencing Luke or Crait.
Edit: Reading my comment back, I feel like I didn’t explain enough how great I think this change is. It’s so well done and provides another moment to organically integrate the ideas we’ve got for Kijimi and the ending of the movie. Just really exciting when something comes together so seamlessly.
Surprisingly the “Luke Has A Moment” deleted scene doesn’t make an appearance in the novelization. I wrote a rough draft of what it might look like below:
Luke nearly recoiled from the gap in his doorway. The girl’s determined gaze reminded him too much of a younger version of himself. Confident. Bold. Reckless. And most importantly, foolish.
He sat down next to a floor table, easing his descent with his mechanical hand, which whirred in protest. She would never truly understand why he had chosen to leave the fight. Neither would Leia.
Leia. While he had lost the man he had come to see as his best friend, she had lost her husband. He couldn’t imagine the pain she felt right now. The worst of it all was that he alone was to blame for Han’s death. Everything was. And even if the Resistance wasn’t able to see it, his return would only make their circumstances worse. He knew that for certain.
Tears pooled on the surface of the table as Luke Skywalker wept silently.
It does reveal that Luke blames himself for things a little early, but it doesn’t reveal the specifics of that so I’m willing to overlook it.
That’s really good.
