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- Revenge of the Sith (The New Canon Cut) [DRAFT AVAILABLE]
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Would love a link to this, too, pleas! š
Would love a link to this, too, pleas! š
It could be along the lines of the theory that Palpatine/Plagueis inadvertently created Anakin/the Chosen One. They thought they could use him, but in the end it was their undoing.
Maybe Snoke did bridge their minds, which inadvertently solidified their bond and made them become a Dyad in the Force. So Snoke/Palpatineās own machinations led to their undoing once again. I mean, we basically get that theme already since Palpatine indirectly made Rey by having a child of his own.
Jar Jar Bricks said:
I have no doubt that is most likely going to be the canon answer at some point (or already), and was the intention the writers of TROS had when creating the concept of the dyad. But itās just kinda messy. And they didnāt have the opportunity (like us) to go back and change certain small details in the previous films.
Yeah, itās certainly messy and inconsistent. Just another day in the ST, heh.
Iād always just assumed that was Snoke lying through his crooked yellow teeth to further manipulate Kylo, as Sith(-adjacent) lords are wont to do. Heād seen into Kyloās mind and discovered their bond, deciding to take credit for it to try and undermine/complicated their feelings for each other.
For my $0.02c, here was my solution to the Zorri dialogue: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1akShjAvYRl98exDBBW9U53hnGTunE4th/view
In my 3-in-1 edit of the sequel trilogy I rescored the two scenes in TRoS that opted against using music: the Pasaana confrontation, and the duel on the Death Star II.
For the Pasaana confrontation I used bits from The Cave (TLJ) and The Ways of the Force (TFA), and for the duel I used a cue from Luke and Vaderās fight in Return of the Jedi.
Pasaana Confrontation
Final Saber Duel (Ignore the slightly janky cut from Maz back to the Death Star, Iāve since fixed this)
Thanks newmaker! Yeah the other edits that have used cues from DotF I think are generally implemented alright but donāt fit the intensity of the scene for me, rather than hedging I just decided to go all in. Iām glad you think it worked out.
Iāll PM you a link to V2.5 as it may be some weeks away before TRoS Ascendant V3 is out and I can implement changes from that, as well as building a new title crawl which is something that needs doing before this project is ācomplete.ā
Jul Dylan said:
The āyour squadā seems to be is his lonely bum in your awesome cut, until we see more small fighters in the background.
Heh, good catch! I did play with this a bit and ended up deciding to put the cut where it is because that was where it cuts back to Poe in his cockpit in the theatrical, making Leiaās voice sound like itās coming in over his comms. What I imagined it as is: Leiaās saying āgreat job, you bought us enough time to get all the transports back, so now we donāt have to bring your bombing squad up to continue the attack on the dreadnoughtā and instead of doing what TLJ Poe does and ignoring her he just⦠follows orders, heh.
Iāll make a not and see if I canāt have a bit more of a play with it for V3, though! Thanks again for your suggestions š
Thanks for in feedback folks. Looking back on the day shots I do think Iāll have to tone down the fiery artefacts and tone down the effect in the cave. Unfortunately I didnāt get passana or our first meeting with zorri template from kewlfish to see his settings but Iāll take another run at it and upload a test scene soon.
Like with a lot of things in Star Wars to varying extents (how fast lasers travel etc) I think you can probably put it down to what looks best in a given context.
Out of interest, did there ever exist a version of the purple lightsaber ending without the ghosts? Or did the lightsaber work get added on top of the existing ghost ending footage?
I think structurally this is where itās going to stay, too, so Iām going to start on producing a subtitles file for the edit hopefully to go out with V3 when thatās done.
Version 2.5 is done and uploaded now, mostly reintroducing some small parts back into the TLJ portions of the film for clarity and pacing, as well as a couple of fixes. Will be sending PMās out today!
This is where Iāll be leaving things until V3 of TRoS Ascendant is up and I can incorporate some of the changes from that back into this edit.
Just to keep things on track:
Iām intending on putting together a V3 of this edit with some minor changes and fixes, re-adding some of the Resistanceās escape from DāQar as it has been pointed out (and I agree) that it feels a bit rushed and out of nowhere that theyāre just on ships all of a sudden after Reyās departure.
Iāll also be incorporating some of the other stuff from V3 of Hal9000ās TRoS Ascendant such as Leiaās purple saber (will still be leaving out the force ghosts) and the crackling/broken Skywalker saber, among a few other changes.
Thank you all for your interest so far!
I think everyoneās pretty married to the DotF cue during the Death Star II fight at this stage, but I just wanted to post this for consideration anyway. A re-score from my edit thatās a bit more overt and uses the cue from Luke and Vaderās fight in RotJ, which feels pretty appropriate. The only difference in my edit from Ascendant is one shot of Finn and Jannah being cut and the following shot being cropped to only follow Kylo as he leaps after Rey. Let me know what you think! (Ignore the janky cut away from Maz as Iāve since removed this)
Clip: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1c7-cWQRWTG51wmXMSOu6U8rDQrzRWV4S/view?usp=sharing
I very much like your analogy of a Japanese zen garden, this feels very in line with the processes Iāve taken to come to this edit! Glad you enjoyed š
Itās been really interesting in the process of this edit how many times I would be doing a watch-back and taking notes and going āwow, thatās a pretty janky music transition, I should see if I can do betterā only to discover itās what was in the actual theatrical version.
Stuff you probably donāt notice on a casual watch but if youāre going through it with a fine-tooth comb, all that glue and tape really starts to show!
PM sent
Sure thing, links sent!
V2 is now finished and uploaded, links have been sent.
Iām just about finished up on a V2 of this edit, which adds back in a couple of key scenes for some missing stakes and context in the TFA/TLJ chapters, as well as fix up some continuity errors introduced in larger-scale edits and a few sound fixes.
Looked through some bits last night and Iāve fixed a continuity mistake where āhangar 718ā is mentioned twice in two scenes very near each other and in the wrong order. Iāve removed the second scene and extended the Falconās arrival a bit to compensate.
- Figure out what to do with the credits for all three films.
Play all of them at the same time. One at the top and the two next to each other at the bottom. Just like JXeditorās Skywalker film edit.
I think they made an entire bespoke credits for their edit, but itās a good idea. I might see if I can just plop all three credits sequences next to each other, it might look a bit janky but Iāll feel better for having them there.
If youāre going back for another pass at Restructured, the scene where Han and Leia reunite on Takodana has a weird issue where some of the shots of Leia are shifted to the right, leaving a large black bar on the left side of the screen.
Iāve updated the OP with a more comprehensive cut list and some examples. Pop a reply here if youād like a download link.
Ok guys, hereās the final part of the DS fight : https://vimeo.com/492230855
pw : fanedit
Iāll try to improve the close-up shots of the saber in part 2 tomorrow.
And unfortunately, I donāt have the original material of the movie on my computer, thatās why Iām working with Halās version. But that shouldnāt be a problem, I can provide the After Effect files of each shot, then replacing the video with the original shot of the movie would be the only work needed.
This is looking great, Luka! Well done!