Would love a link to this, too, pleas! 😃
It could be along the lines of the theory that Palpatine/Plagueis inadvertently created Anakin/the Chosen One. They thought they could use him, but in the end it was their undoing.
Maybe Snoke did bridge their minds, which inadvertently solidified their bond and made them become a Dyad in the Force. So Snoke/Palpatine’s own machinations led to their undoing once again. I mean, we basically get that theme already since Palpatine indirectly made Rey by having a child of his own.
Jar Jar Bricks said:
I have no doubt that is most likely going to be the canon answer at some point (or already), and was the intention the writers of TROS had when creating the concept of the dyad. But it’s just kinda messy. And they didn’t have the opportunity (like us) to go back and change certain small details in the previous films.
Yeah, it’s certainly messy and inconsistent. Just another day in the ST, heh.
I’d always just assumed that was Snoke lying through his crooked yellow teeth to further manipulate Kylo, as Sith(-adjacent) lords are wont to do. He’d seen into Kylo’s mind and discovered their bond, deciding to take credit for it to try and undermine/complicated their feelings for each other.
For my $0.02c, here was my solution to the Zorri dialogue: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1akShjAvYRl98exDBBW9U53hnGTunE4th/view
In my 3-in-1 edit of the sequel trilogy I rescored the two scenes in TRoS that opted against using music: the Pasaana confrontation, and the duel on the Death Star II.
For the Pasaana confrontation I used bits from The Cave (TLJ) and The Ways of the Force (TFA), and for the duel I used a cue from Luke and Vader’s fight in Return of the Jedi.
Final Saber Duel (Ignore the slightly janky cut from Maz back to the Death Star, I’ve since fixed this)
Thanks newmaker! Yeah the other edits that have used cues from DotF I think are generally implemented alright but don’t fit the intensity of the scene for me, rather than hedging I just decided to go all in. I’m glad you think it worked out.
I’ll PM you a link to V2.5 as it may be some weeks away before TRoS Ascendant V3 is out and I can implement changes from that, as well as building a new title crawl which is something that needs doing before this project is “complete.”
Jul Dylan said:
The “your squad” seems to be is his lonely bum in your awesome cut, until we see more small fighters in the background.
Heh, good catch! I did play with this a bit and ended up deciding to put the cut where it is because that was where it cuts back to Poe in his cockpit in the theatrical, making Leia’s voice sound like it’s coming in over his comms. What I imagined it as is: Leia’s saying “great job, you bought us enough time to get all the transports back, so now we don’t have to bring your bombing squad up to continue the attack on the dreadnought” and instead of doing what TLJ Poe does and ignoring her he just… follows orders, heh.
I’ll make a not and see if I can’t have a bit more of a play with it for V3, though! Thanks again for your suggestions 😃
Movies Remastered said:
Thanks for in feedback folks. Looking back on the day shots I do think I’ll have to tone down the fiery artefacts and tone down the effect in the cave. Unfortunately I didn’t get passana or our first meeting with zorri template from kewlfish to see his settings but I’ll take another run at it and upload a test scene soon.
Like with a lot of things in Star Wars to varying extents (how fast lasers travel etc) I think you can probably put it down to what looks best in a given context.
Out of interest, did there ever exist a version of the purple lightsaber ending without the ghosts? Or did the lightsaber work get added on top of the existing ghost ending footage?
I think structurally this is where it’s going to stay, too, so I’m going to start on producing a subtitles file for the edit hopefully to go out with V3 when that’s done.
Version 2.5 is done and uploaded now, mostly reintroducing some small parts back into the TLJ portions of the film for clarity and pacing, as well as a couple of fixes. Will be sending PM’s out today!
This is where I’ll be leaving things until V3 of TRoS Ascendant is up and I can incorporate some of the changes from that back into this edit.
Just to keep things on track:
I’m intending on putting together a V3 of this edit with some minor changes and fixes, re-adding some of the Resistance’s escape from D’Qar as it has been pointed out (and I agree) that it feels a bit rushed and out of nowhere that they’re just on ships all of a sudden after Rey’s departure.
I’ll also be incorporating some of the other stuff from V3 of Hal9000’s TRoS Ascendant such as Leia’s purple saber (will still be leaving out the force ghosts) and the crackling/broken Skywalker saber, among a few other changes.
Thank you all for your interest so far!
I think everyone’s pretty married to the DotF cue during the Death Star II fight at this stage, but I just wanted to post this for consideration anyway. A re-score from my edit that’s a bit more overt and uses the cue from Luke and Vader’s fight in RotJ, which feels pretty appropriate. The only difference in my edit from Ascendant is one shot of Finn and Jannah being cut and the following shot being cropped to only follow Kylo as he leaps after Rey. Let me know what you think! (Ignore the janky cut away from Maz as I’ve since removed this)
I very much like your analogy of a Japanese zen garden, this feels very in line with the processes I’ve taken to come to this edit! Glad you enjoyed 😄
It’s been really interesting in the process of this edit how many times I would be doing a watch-back and taking notes and going “wow, that’s a pretty janky music transition, I should see if I can do better” only to discover it’s what was in the actual theatrical version.
Stuff you probably don’t notice on a casual watch but if you’re going through it with a fine-tooth comb, all that glue and tape really starts to show!
Sure thing, links sent!
V2 is now finished and uploaded, links have been sent.
I’m just about finished up on a V2 of this edit, which adds back in a couple of key scenes for some missing stakes and context in the TFA/TLJ chapters, as well as fix up some continuity errors introduced in larger-scale edits and a few sound fixes.
Looked through some bits last night and I’ve fixed a continuity mistake where “hangar 718” is mentioned twice in two scenes very near each other and in the wrong order. I’ve removed the second scene and extended the Falcon’s arrival a bit to compensate.
- Figure out what to do with the credits for all three films.
Play all of them at the same time. One at the top and the two next to each other at the bottom. Just like JXeditor’s Skywalker film edit.
I think they made an entire bespoke credits for their edit, but it’s a good idea. I might see if I can just plop all three credits sequences next to each other, it might look a bit janky but I’ll feel better for having them there.
If you’re going back for another pass at Restructured, the scene where Han and Leia reunite on Takodana has a weird issue where some of the shots of Leia are shifted to the right, leaving a large black bar on the left side of the screen.
V1 of this edit is now complete!
I’ve updated the OP with a more comprehensive cut list and some examples. Pop a reply here if you’d like a download link.
Luka Frik said:
Ok guys, here’s the final part of the DS fight : https://vimeo.com/492230855
pw : fanedit
I’ll try to improve the close-up shots of the saber in part 2 tomorrow.
And unfortunately, I don’t have the original material of the movie on my computer, that’s why I’m working with Hal’s version. But that shouldn’t be a problem, I can provide the After Effect files of each shot, then replacing the video with the original shot of the movie would be the only work needed.
This is looking great, Luka! Well done!