WitchDR

Mando has officially entered the “requires-a-fanedit-to-be-watchable” territory. Everything that’s happened this season could have been cut down to 2 episodes MAX. There’s only like 5-10 minutes worth of decent content in every episode.

This season is giving Book of Boba Fett a run for it’s money. It’s honestly embarrassing.

I’ve always loved The Orville, but found that a lot of the time the jokes either land really flat or drag on way too long (a MacFarlane specialty!). Season 1 was really bad in this department, being really ham-fisted with a joke every scene. Where-as Season 2 found a far better balance, and Season 3 going even further in removing a lot of the humor altogether.

My main goal is to tone down a lot of the “Family Guy-esque” humor from the first two seasons. This does not mean ALL the humor is gone, just a good chunk of it. Season 1 will definitely have the most cuts, while Season 2 will be far more minor.

Included are “Lossless” releases and smaller “Storage-friendly” releases for all episodes.

WOW! Glad to see this revived as well! This was an edit I was really looking forward to!

I’ve always felt this show could be far more heavily edited than other edits I’ve seen. Even though it’s still in it’s infancy, this show is one that could be taken to a whole new level with changing dialogue with new A.I. voice lines. The shows consist of so many lip-flapping puppets and helmeted characters, it just seems ripe for something like that.

It’s not something you’ve listed you’d do, just something other edits haven’t taken advantage of when doing radical changes to the plot. Even though just a change in a line or two could trim so very much.

Anyways, your edit sounds like a fun new way to experience the shows! Can’t wait to check it out! 😄

The cartoons have been the most consistently good visual medium of Star Wars since the OT.

I would take Clone Wars, Rebels, and Bad Batch over Mandalorian, Book of Boba Fett, and Obi-Wan any day. Andor is the only live-action show to me, that has reached the level of quality the cartoons have set.

PsyGemini said:

If this whole “New Republic buried in bureaucracy and being eaten from the inside without even noticing it” ends up directly leading to the First Order, then this whole Coruscant plot is gonna be harsh to edit out of any edits.

Anyways, I really don’t like the way they are portraying the New Republic as stereotypical incompetent clueless morons, but oh well, ever since TFA, can’t say that’s surprising.

I 100% agree. They have to make the New Republic this awful just to justify the mess they were written as in the Sequels. It’s honestly a shame, since it feels like it all just undermines the OT.

I know it won’t be possible by the end of this, but I’d honestly like to see most of this incompetent New Republic edited out…

This stuffs rough being an EU fan.

jedi_bendu said:

WitchDR said:

Episode sucked. But at least this was a good cameo.

The Mandalorian in a nutshell?

I have to give them credit for leaning less into beloved character appearances this season than they did in season 2. And obviously no one will be surprised that I loved seeing Zeb again. He looks great in live action and I agree it’s a massive relief they didn’t try him with a practical effect. I love the magic of practical effects but sometimes they won’t quite cut it.

I love practical as well. But I think they’ve leaned way too heavily into it. There needs to be balance, some of these aliens would never look good with practical effects.

They also kept Zeb’s eyes correct! After seeing Jaro Tapal with his uncanny human eyes in Jedi Fallen Order, I thought for sure that every live action Lasat would ditch the green eyes. Glad to see they kept it the same as it was originally established in Rebels. It looks so much better!

Episode sucked. But at least this was a good cameo.

And THANK GOD he was CGI. I was waiting for some awful practical effect Zeb akin to how Bane was handled.

The damage done by the sequel trilogy has made them hesitant to do anything. The only direction they can go is backwards or so far in the future that there is no connectivity to the sequels.

I’d much rather them continue the show route, even though they have been hit or miss, they have a much better batting average than their movies. Only decent one is Rogue One, the rest are better left behind.

If they go forward with something Rey or any sequel trilogy related character movies, they’ll most likely bomb or barely make them back the money they spend on it. Didn’t we see decline in revenue as each movie came out? That decline would only continue if they moved forward with the sequel timeline.

They’ve mostly avoided the sequel trilogy since, and even though the Mandoverse seems to be moving in the direction of possibly connecting to the sequels, we’ll have to wait and see. If they decide to connect Mandoverse to the Sequels, it’ll only sink everything the Mandoverse has built.

Everything that’s happened in these first 4 episodes could have easily been condensed to a 2 episode premiere. And even 2 episodes I feel is being slightly generous.

This is shaping up to be one of the easiest of the movie edits thus far. Every episode feels about 15 to 20 minutes longer than they need to be. Probably only about an hour or so of content that needs to be kept out of all four of these episodes combined.

Honestly, having the beginning be the Luke centric BOBF content like you have it now, might end up helping it get to a reasonable runtime lol.

I think the last picture works best for the “The Reckoning” title!

This episode could have easily been one of the shorter 30 minute mandalorian episodes. Felt bloated for no reason.

The fact that Pershing is seemingly out of the picture now considering what was done to him, makes the episode seem even more irrelevant to focus so much time on him.

We’ll have to see though.

It honestly sucks being an EU fan, knowing how much better the New Republic could be. But it’s portrayal here makes sense considering the laughing stalk it becomes in the sequel trilogy.

EddieDean said:

Hooray! That’s excellent to hear. I don’t currently plan to add subtitles, though they have been requested a lot. I don’t know how much work they’d take, which is why it’s not something I’ve picked up. Does anyone know how to create/edit subtitle tracks? I’d be starting from scratch.

Aegisub.

Only thing that was a little rough scene-wise, was Din staying to wait for Grogu’s decision. Also having the Purgil moment be the scene to show the outcome of Grogu’s decision doesn’t quite work to me. I honestly think the Croc fight scene would work better for showing his decision. We only see Din when he lands, then Grogu pops up a second later. It misleads the audience into thinking Grogu chose Luke, only for the audience to be surprised when he pops up.

Something akin to this…
https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/806284394

Other than that… fantastic first cut! Crawl looks great too! Exited to see this built as episodes come out.

STF78 said:

After watching todays episode it occurred to me that it might be better moving all the Mando/Grogu storyline specific content from TBOBF out of your edit and combining them with the first two episodes of this new season to make a third chapter in your Mandalorian story. That way the Boba Fett story could be its own thing (with a brief supporting appearance from Djarin) and the forthcoming six new Mandalorian episodes could form a chapter four. Just a thought.

Since all the shows already intertwine with each other, I’d say it’s better long term doing it the way Smudger’s doing it. Combining it all under one banner is better than having .5’s or separate titled movies you have to insert into certain spots to get the full viewing experience.

smudger9 said:

Thanks WDR! It was always my intention to move the Luke/Grogu scenes to the start of the next Movie. Favreau’s comments have reinforced that position!

Awesome! Can’t wait to see the progression of your 4th movie in the coming months!

I finally got around to checking out all 3 of your Mando movies, and I must say Smudger, these are fantastic! I really love what you accomplished with the BOBF content. Completely seamless with the Mando content.

After hearing Favreau’s comment about Grogu being with Luke for 2 years (I haven’t seen Favreau walk this back as a slip-up) I’m wondering if there may be a way to imply this better. Since you were able to seamlessly remove Grogu from the Tatoonie scenes and leave him only for the ending of your 3rd movie, I’m wondering if it may be better suited for the opening of the 4th movie. This way you could imply a 2 year timejump (or even any amount of timejump) in the crawl.

This would also help with how we see such drastic changes with characters and locations. Such as the Armorer being on that new planet instead of the “ring city” we saw her on in BOBF, also the massive change in Navaro.

Though this would require you to chop up your Luke and Grogu scenes. The first training scenes imply that Grogu hasn’t been training with Luke for very long. So leave the ones where he’s learning to jump and what not as the end of the 3rd movie. Then open the 4th movie with Din arriving on Luke’s planet, have it play out the same, but instead jump to the scene of Grogu jumping along the rocks. It shows that he’s had a level of progression since the end of your 3rd movie with his small jumps.

Grogu and Din being back together so soon has rubbed a lot of people the wrong way and even though explaining it in a crawl that time has passed is only a band-aid on this issue, it’s still at least a little better than what we have been given.

I’m not the best at explaining everything in text form, but hopefully some of that came across coherently lol. I haven’t even attempted to edit this idea into realty, so it may not be feasible. But I’m gonna try playing around with your 3rd movie edit and see if the idea even works.

Have you done any AI tests using your isolated Jar Jar lines yet, Eddie?

JEDIT: Double post.

EddieDean said:

I don’t think it would save the viewer much time - it’d mainly be all the existing content smushed together - but it might feel more ‘bitesize’ this way, and I think there’s a nice flow to it. What do you think about the content of each of the suggested episodes?

They sound great to me! You paired a lot of the episodes up well! I think Movie 1 alone sounds far better than all of that content separate.

I’d love to see this new movie format! I was already watching Refocused in an even more condensed format than you had listed, so I’d definitely love to see it this way!

Especially like the idea of the 6.5 movie as I feel Citadel needs to be kept for those that want to watch the Bad Batch.

Would love a link!

EddieDean said:

I’ll ask it here too - now that AI seems like it can recreate a lot of voices, and I’ve isolated all of Jar Jar’s dialogue enough that I can likely use it to train an AI voice tool, are there any new or alternate Jar Jar lines we think would be valuable? It’d be great to give him actual agency.

It’d be cool if there was a way to have Binks already be apart of the Senate, guiding the Jedi to Gungan City to discuss the invasion and possible alliance with Padme. Always a thought I’ve had that seemed far to radical to implement, but maybe just changing dialogue could achieve something in that ballpark.

Also unrelated to Jar Jar, I wonder if we could have some mention of Dooku from someone in Phantom Menace. Have Qui-Gon or one of the Jedi Council members make mention of him. Obviously this would require creating a conversation in which he would need to be mentioned, but with the new AI that’s come out, anything’s possible.

How’s the edit coming along, NFBisms? 😃