Really excited to check out the new version when it’s available! I’ll try to go through and re-timestamp the scenes I was talking about with the error. It’s really not a huge issue like I said lol. I’d also love to check out Book 3!
I’d love to check this out!
I agree with your cuts Acbagel. I think S3 needs to be treated the same as BoBF, less is definitely more in this case. Also, awesome clip! Really love that you added even more connective tissue between both shows!
I’m gonna give Ashoka a chance because of Rebels, but it’s the last chance Disney is getting out of me.
I think everybody here wants to see Star Wars doing amazing. But until Lucasfilm cleans house, I doubt it will ever be something special again.
That finale was just… nothing. Honestly didn’t feel anything. It’s just going through the motions with mind-numbing dull action scenes. What an awful season as a whole.
Can anything save Star Wars at this point? While I liked Andor, it ain’t great enough to save it. Boba Fett was awful, Kenobi was awful, and now Mando is in the mud with them. If they continue their current track record, Ashoka isn’t going to be good either. The fact they aren’t completely course correcting and instead diving head first into more mud with a Rey movie… I got to say I think live action Star Wars is completely dead to me.
I think I’ll stick to the cartoons, since that’s the only stuff Disney knows how to make. I’d love for them to prove me wrong, but they tend to constantly prove me right.
What was the point of IG-12? I’m honestly baffled at how stupid that entire plot point ended up being.
Finale was meh. This season as a whole felt like BOBF-level quality. Some cool stuff, but mostly just meandering to out-right bad. Not even the finale could save it with that anti-climatic fight with Gideon.
I’m super excited to check out your cut Smudger. While I don’t think anything can really save the writing for this season, having it more bite-sized is the first step to it’s recovery.
I think that’s the best move honestly Smudger.
Though I think you may have more to work with in your first two movies once Ashoka comes out, considering we appear to be seeing Ashoka’s journey to finding Morgan Elsbeth. Once we have more on Elsbeth, her fight with Ashoka may feel more acceptable as a movie ending with all the build up to it. With a little rearranging you may also be able to push all the content forward a notch, allowing you to also end the following movie on Luke’s appearance.
We will have to see though!
Love the changes made Smudger! I agree the Pershing stuff is better left on the cutting room floor.
I think we can do without Grogu getting the armor. If we see it in the finale, like he gets hit or something and it protects him, we can just imply that they armored him up before they went to Mandalore.
But I do think you should keep the flashback though. What if you just implemented parts of it into this scene? Just trim it up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO_l-dI5CFY&ab_channel=DailyDisclosure
I’d love to check out your new books 1 and 2!
Vladius, you nailed it right on the head.
It’s disappointing how everything, Thrawn included, is going to end up as one big elaborate retcon to explain why the New Republic sucked so bad and how the First Order could exist in the sequels. It’s a rehabilitation project. They think they can get away with it because it worked with so many people with the prequels. Sadly they’re probably right and in 10-15 years we’ll see a bunch of contrarian takes about how underrated they were and how deep the lore is and how all the Disney+ shows “redeem” them.
Not that I trust them to do Thrawn or anything else justice, but it’s extra insulting that that’s what they’re using it all for.
I couldn’t agree more.
I gotta say after this episode, you may be able to just remove the Pershing stuff altogether as well. Did he really add anything? Most his scenes involved the awful New Rebuplic and everything with him and Kane don’t appear to be going anywhere. Kane felt more like she was there just to reintroduce Gideon back to the plot.
Hopefully next episode we will see something that made all their scenes worth the time spent with them. But I’m kind of doubting it.
Season 1 is currently available!
But what if you think Rey was already a good character? I certainly did, at least until the whole “you are a Palpatine” fiasco. But I feel like a major goal of this movie is to rationalize and streamline some of the messiness of TROS, bringing the sequels’ reception back to the mostly-positive outlook pre-2019.
Remember, both TFA and TLJ had a more than 90% positive critical reception, and I feel like the audience score would look the same way if sequel hate wasn’t weaponized during the Trump-era culture wars. People liked the sequels before TROS, Disney just needs to figure out how to make people like them again.
For one I wouldn’t take payed critics opinions seriously and second - this “Trump-era” culture war you speak of, I don’t think has anything to do with it. What happened is TLJ came out an completely destroyed Luke Skywalker. And people were pissed. You can try to blame outrage culture channels on Youtube for this. But the whole reason they ever rose to stardom in the first place is BECAUSE people were going to these sites to see if people felt the same way they did after leaving the theater from TLJ.
The only reason TFA was so positive is because it was a new mainline Star Wars movie after 15 years of none. And once that high wore off and TLJ came out, people looked at it far more critically. And it especially didn’t help that the movie itself was horrible.
I’d love if this movie was great, but the damage is already done. I’d love to be excited for Star Wars again, but between the OT characters treatment and their bland replacements, it’s too late. Hey if you love these movies and Rey in general that’s cool. I’m happy you and some people found enjoyment out of them. But can we please stop equating “sequel hate” to some kind of “right wing” movement? It’s honestly tiresome… Peoples politics have absolutely nothing to do with how people felt about these movies.
It is truly depressing…
To me the Post-OT novels are the best era of Star Wars. Yeah there are a handful of duds, but even the stuff before the more exciting Thrawn trilogy and beyond is great.
People are really missing out on stuff like Truce at Bakura, Courtship of Priness Leia, and Tatoonie Ghost. All far more exciting than anything Disney has ever put out.
Every idea that Disney has stolen from the EU was done far better in the EU.
If it really happens that’d be one thing, but if it’s a success that’s something else. Adding more layers to
‘somehow Palpatine returned’ is the whole end game of the current TV glut after all. People should be annoyed but Daisy walked out on stage and everyone clapped like a bunch of seals so…
It baffles me honestly. I have to imagine most of those people aren’t EU fans whatsoever. Since just the idea of them robbing Luke of everything he worked for just to hand it to their boring as a blank of wood character known as Rey, is such a disgrace to everything the OT built and the EU expanded on.
This movie signifies to me, that this company hasn’t learned a thing. Continuing with anything sequel’s related is going to be the nail in the coffin for this franchise. These movies won’t be beloved over time like the prequels became, I can guarantee that. The prequels may have had bad CGI and dialogue, but it still had heart and plot. The sequels have ZERO heart and weren’t made with any sort of passion. They themselves have admitted to winging the whole trilogy.
They are going to attempt to fix their abomination of a trilogy with the Mandoverse, like they think the Clone Wars did for the prequels. But the Clone Wars didn’t FIX the prequels, it just added more layers. You can’t fix how they robbed the original trilogy cast of everything they had in the sequels. No show can fix that damage. Sorry, it isn’t going to happen. And I hope this thing completely bombs so they have to finally either sell this franchise off to somebody who actually cares about it.
I love Rebels, but I’m getting Kenobi-vibes from this. I’m hoping this is decent, but seeing how the Mandoverse is a sinking ship at this point, this isn’t giving me much hope.
I just want a good conclusion to Ezra and Thrawn. It’s the only open thread I’m still interested in.
Yeah, pretty much. The Mangold film is the only one of these that I’m mildly interested in. And even then, I’m still concerned about it.
I am surprised that they’re doing movies set so far apart in the timeline, though. All this timeline jumping could be confusing for casual viewers.
Oh I’m sure they’ll ruin that timeline too. I’m only mildly interested in the possibility of it being decent, but won’t hold my breath. I’d be excited in Filoni’s, but seeing that they are actually moving forward with the sequel timeline, means the Mandoverse content all leads to the abysmal sequels, which has made all of it irrelevant to me.
Hopefully it’s disconnected enough to be faneditted with no connection to the sequels. That’s the only positive I can see coming from it.
Seeing that they’ve decided to move forward with the sequel timeline really has sunk all my excitement for the future post-OT. They really are gonna connect the Mandoverse to the sequels, aren’t they? Ughhhh… This company never learns any lessons and I don’t think they are capable of making a single good decision.
Couldn’t care any less for Rey, and honestly hoping this one gets the “cancelled” treatment. Sorry Disney, but rebuilding the New Jedi Order is and always will be Luke’s journey, and the fact you ripped that achievement from him to give it to your mediocre character, is an even bigger slap in the face and makes me hate the character even more.
At least there’s the James Mangold movie to look forward to. I love the Dawn of the Jedi comics, so hopefully they are using elements from that.
The problem is the fact that there’s only 8 episodes. An episode like this would be “fine” if we got 12 to 16 episodes like the cartoons or Andor get. But when we’re only getting 8 episodes… it feels like a waste to do episodes like this.
It especially doesn’t help when barely anything has happened in the 6 out of 8 episodes we’ve gotten this season.
Yes, please remove that awful Romeo and Juliet scene. I think Bo and Din arriving on the planet and them meeting up with the other Mandos is all that’s worth keeping from this episode. Everything else belongs in the bin.
This is the worst Star Wars content and worst storytelling i´ve witnessed for years. No excuses.
Pedro should leave this shitshow befare they put Din Djarin through a gender swapping operation and retcon his story to reveal that the true hero of his story is in fact Mon Mothma.
The cringe om this episode. The Voice acting. The effects. The cinematography. The storytelling. THE DIALOGUE! The new characters! E V E R Y T H I N G was totally and utterly a complete failure. They even retconned Din Djarin
s path to save Mandalore that was heavily hinted at in season 2 and shifted it to a vague side character because… what? Shes fucking female? Star wars is dying.
I couldn’t agree more lol.
I sent a PM, can’t wait to check out Chapter 1!
Good thing you’ve got the Book of Boba Fett content to push up the runtime, cause holy moly is this season a trainwreck. Everything that’s happened could have been condensed to 2 episodes of a season MAX.