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#138429
Topic
Idea & Info: a Dune Fan Edit thread...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/138429/action/topic#138429
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Originally posted by: Mackey256
I heard that the only reason that the Dune DVD was held back was because David Lynch was going to be involved with the DVD in some sort of re edit of the movie.

I read it on "The Digital Bits" some time ago. Sorry I can't be more specific.



You are right, that was the rumor. Lynch debunked it on his own website a few weeks after it had started. He still has nothing to do with DUNE. Lynch is working now on his new film "Inland Empire"
I was so looking forward to the DUNE deleted footage that was to be included in the extras of that set. They would have made my re-edit of DUNE that much more special.

THX
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#138427
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Idea & Info: a Dune Fan Edit thread...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/138427/action/topic#138427
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Here is some excerpts from my text commentery:

The extended prologue has been left out of this version by choice. Lynch never intended it to be included. The producers of the extended television version cobbled it together to explain the plot elements to an audience that would be viewing the television version over a two–night period. We felt that the prologue should not be included. Many fans regard the extended prologue as somewhat sloppy, and slows down the pace of the film. Fans of the extended prologue can find the footage as an Easter Egg, someplace within this DVD set.

Some fans may ask, “Why is Princess Irulan the narrator of the theatrical version?” She is the narrator, because Paul must take Irulan as his wife in order to satisfy political traditions of the Emperor. With this fate, Paul’s story is also Irulan’s. Unfortunately without this final revelation of plotline, Irulan’s presence as a supporting character or narrator is puzzling. Maybe one day, this still–missing scene will make its way into the bonus features of an officially–released “DUNE” DVD.

David Lynch strongly objected to the extended television version of DUNE, and insisted on having his name removed from the writer and director credits of the TV version.

Fanfiltration felt it is only right to credit this version of DUNE to writer Judas Booth and director Alan Smithee, as Lynch has not approved this version.

Alan Smithee was a pseudonym used between 1968 and 1999 by Hollywood film directors who wanted to be disassociated from a film for which they no longer wanted credit. It was used when the director could prove to the satisfaction of a panel of members of the Directors Guild of America (DGA) and Association of Motion Picture and Television Producers that the film had been wrested from his or her creative control. The director was also required to keep the reason for the disavowal a secret. The pseudonym cannot be used to hide a director's failures. The choice of the pseudonym for Judas Booth as the writer’s credit may be meant to convey a feeling of creative assignation and betrayal.

The producers of the television version hastily reworked this scene with a redubbed voice for the 3rd Stage Navigator. Fanfiltration has reinserted a number of cut shots into this segment. The Emperor’s explanation of his plan to help the Harconans is from the Lynch version. The Navigator’s lines involving the spice’s importance is from the Smithee version. Fanfiltration included these lines to help viewers understand the importance of “the spice” to the characters and the plot. What follows is the somewhat altered 7th draft script, dated December 9, 1983.

15. INT. THRONE ROOM - EMPEROR'S PALACE - NIGHT

EMPEROR:
Can you hear me? If this visit has anything to do with spice...
-- The Guild Navigator shudders and swishes quite violently in his tank.

NAVIGATOR:
LISTEN TO ME!! The spice must flow…the spice has given me accelerated evolution for four thousand years…it has enabled you to live two hundred years…the spice helps make the sapho juice, which gives the red-lipped mentats the ability to be living computers…the secret side of spice…the water of life.

16. INT. HALLWAY - EMPEROR'S PALACE - NIGHT

REVEREND MOTHER (Voice Over):
He shouldn't speak of this…

15. BACK TO SCENE

NAVIGATOR:
…gives the Bene Gesserit sisterhood the metaphysical ability to see beyond…to have superior powers…Our power to fold space is in the spice…Without us, your empire would be lost on isolated scattered planets…You would be lost.

EMPEROR:
I can assure you…

NAVIGATOR:
Do not interrupt!!! Do not speak lightly of the spice…ONE SMALL POINT…


Most of this next scene plays out as it does in the theatrical version up to the end of the shield fight. Inserts from the television version will be indicated.

Some added lines between Paul and Dr.Yueh have been inserted from the television version.

The producers of the television version had reedited and rearranged a great amount of Toto’s soundtrack music, placing rehashed cues over many scenes that had no background music in the original Lynch version. This over–saturated soundtrack music presented Fanfiltration with many challenges when reediting scenes from the two versions.

The music cue under this scene is different then the Lynch version.

This version of the scene with Paul and a “Fighter” is from the television version, and includes a few more lines spoken by Gurney.

The television version has an overdubbed narration placed here that briefly tells us who the character of Duncan Idaho is.

This scene between Paul and his father is taken from the television version and contains extra dialogue, spoken by Duke Leto.

This extended scene is from the TV version, with extra dialogue between Jessica and the Reverend Mother.

The next *:** is identical to the theatrical version.
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#138423
Topic
Idea & Info: a Dune Fan Edit thread...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/138423/action/topic#138423
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Originally posted by: SammyTheBull
I'm just curious, what did you do with the additional scenes from the "Smithee" cut - did you add them in full-screen or did you cut them to make them look as if they were in proper ratio, matted? (I assume you took them from one of the official releases, and all the available DVDs with the Smithee version that I know of are in fullscreen and, unfortunately, it's not the open matted kind)


This special reedit of “DUNE” was prepared by us at Fanfiltration to satisfy fans whom have never been truly happy with “DUNE” in neither its truncated 1984 theatrical version, nor the version of the David Lynch film prepared specifically for television markets with extended (yet poorly edited) footage. In many places, scenes have been reedited to try and faithfully reconstruct David Lynch’s original vision of the film using the December 9, 1982 shooting script as a guide.

The film is presented in a “Pan & Scan” format; as no widescreen footage of the extended cut scenes is available at the current time of this reedit production.

For this fan–created reedit of “DUNE”, every attempt has been made to enhance grainy cutting–room–floor scenes that had been haphazardly inserted into the “Allen Smithee” television version. Fanfiltration’s computer–generated effects have been added to correct the missing “blue within blue eyes” that had been left unfinished in the Smithee version. We also applied color correction to make the clips match. These clips have been incorporated to allude to the dimension of the characters and plotlines in Frank Herbert’s “DUNE”.


THX

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#138403
Topic
Idea & Info: a Dune Fan Edit thread...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/138403/action/topic#138403
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Hi,

Just wanted to give you all an update on "DUNE: The FanFiltration Edit". A project that I have been working on for the past 6 months.

The re-edit is DONE with all of the sound work and new effects work (Blue Eyes) completed. The latest delays have been due to a compression problem I was having (I'm still kind of new to that), and I also have decided to include a few extras. There will be the documentaries from the UK Special Edition (PAL convert to NTSC), a new photo gallery, animated menus and a text commentary that lists the changes I have made to this edit and some other info about DUNE that will run throughout the film using the DVD's subtitle option.

If any of you would like more info on "DUNE: The FanFiltration Edit", please feel free to drop me an email at: FanFiltration(at)Hotmail.com.
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#106017
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Anyone use Adobe Premiere Pro?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106017/action/topic#106017
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Originally posted by: Hardcore Legend
I've just upgraded from Premiere, which I'm pretty good with and I'm having a terrible time watching the video while trying to edit it. I have a Vaio with a 2.80 Ghz Pentium 4 with a NVidia GeForce FX5200 graphics card, so it should be this bad...should it?

Anyone interested, I'm doing a Phantom Menace edit. I was watching it on local tv the other night and I thought to myself, there is a REALLY good film in here, if it was just edited right. So last night, I sat down and watched the first 37 minutes of it and came up with edits that didn't use new dialogue or changed dialogue, just editing. Cutting off scenes quicker to avoid awkward gazes, removing needless dialogue. Also, I found that you can cut alot of silly Jar Jar stuff REAL easy and have him be tolerable. I came up with about 55 edits in the first 37 minutes that I think would make it flow better and give it more of a Star Wars feel. However, Premiere won't co-operate. Any suggestions?


Hi,

I use Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 on a Petium-4 2.0 ghz with an old Geforce Ti4200. I have been doing edits of DUNE and Star Wars Making Magic with no problems. What type of problems are you having? Are you giving your source videos the time they need to conform before trying to view and edit them? Big AVI files can take quite a long time to conform.

THX-1138

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#106016
Topic
Idea & Info: a Dune Fan Edit thread...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106016/action/topic#106016
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--->>> New Release Date for Offical "DUNE" (Extended Edition) DVD<<<---

"Play USA" is now reporting a new release date for Dune on DVD of July 26th 2005!!!

Most likely there will be no involvement from David Lynch, as was stated by the director on a live web-chat interview a few weeks back.

DVD Features:

*Never-before-seen footage of the film including fight scenes and an alternate ending

*New documentaries on the special effects, creature design, insight into the Fremen suits and stories from the set

*Original behind-the-scenes photographs and artwork from the set, newly resurrected from personal collections

*From acclaimed genius Director David Lynch

*Number of discs: 2
(Edit)
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#100683
Topic
“Re-Making Magic DVD” (My Little Project on the CD-ROM “Making Magic”)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/100683/action/topic#100683
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Hi,

The DVD test showed some problems with the video encoding I had done. I was using TMPGEnc, but now I just now got myself CCE Basic. I want to re-do the motoin video stuff now all with CCE Basic. That should not take long as I am working hard on this and using two computers to encode. The rest of the DVD seems to be working just fine. A few minor tweeks and I think it's all done. More to come...

THX-1138
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#99703
Topic
Idea &amp; Info: a Dune Fan Edit thread...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/99703/action/topic#99703
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Originally posted by: Doctor M
How many people here are doing/plaining on doing a fan edit? I think I've counted 3 so far.
Maybe you should all compare notes so as not to go over the same ground unnecessarily.

Also, THX, what are you using as the foundation if your Prologue?


Hi,

I am working on a re-edit of the Irulan Prologue. As she is speaking I am going to do a cross fade into the scene where
Reverend Mother Ramallo Speaks the Prophecy on Dune. I will have to use some shots of the hall of fremen and desert to extend it a bit. (I will reverse the action and cross fade so it looks a bit different then it will when re-shown later.) The original Script calls for the film to open with an extended version of the speech by Reverend Mother Ramallo, but I will have to use what is there. As for the T.V. version Prologue, I am doing a heavy re-edit of that. I'm working it in as part of Paul’s picture film book screen. I am overlaying a graphic over part of the Production Paintings to make them blend with the graphics seen on the film book shown in the current version of the film. This way it will look as if Paul is looking at a history lesson...

VIDEO SOURCES:

1985 Pan & Scan MCA Laserdisc / Force Video DVD of the Alan Smithee Version / U.K. Dune -- Two-disc Special Edition DVD (anamorphically enhanced 2.35:1 transfer)

GUIDES:

7th Draft Script / Building the Perfect DUNE" by Sean Murphy (Video Watchdog No. 33 & 34) / and http://www.duneinfo.com/unseen/


THX-1138