Swift S. Lawliet

clutchins said:

In regards to the audio options, a theatrical “reconstruction” of ROTS would have several options:

DTS-HD MA 5.1 Theatrical DTS CD
Dolby Digital-EX 5.1 2005 DVD Mix
DTS-HD MA 6.1 2011 Blu-ray Mix
Dolby Digital 2.0 2002 DVD Commentary
Dolby Digital 2.0 2011 Blu-ray Commentary
Dolby Digital 2.0 Rifftrax Commentary
Dolby Digital 2.0 Spanish Dub
Dolby Digital 2.0 French Dub
Dolby Digital 2.0 Backstroke of the West Dub w/ subtitles

Please also include the Japanese dub.

The dub was very great. And Padme is voiced by Maaya Sakamoto.

joefavs said:

Like, standard def? I’m pretty sure the AVCHD releases already have all of the audio options from Dark_Jedi’s set.

Yeah.

Because my friends only have DVD players and I want to show them this.

Molly said:

I could theoretically post ESB and RotJ if anyone wanted but maybe it should be left in the hands of someone who’s actually known around the Spleen?

Anyway, I’ve got them tanked and far as I know they’re still uploaded elsewhere, so…

Maybe you can give it to nightstalkerpoet, he already uploaded SW on the Spleen and is willing to upload TESB and ROTJ.

Jetrell Fo said:

Swift S. Lawliet said:

I wish for Dark_Jedi to also do DVD-9 versions of the Despecialized Editions.

I never want to go back to GOUT after watching the Despecialized Editions.

Harmy did the Despecialized Editions, not Dark_Jedi.

Yeah, I know.

What I mean is I want Dark_Jedi to do multi track DVD-9 discs for Harmy’s Despecialized Editions similar to what he did to his theatrical DVDs.

nightstalkerpoet said:

Just put up an alternate DVD-5 version that uses the ANH Crawl release. There is no padding at the edges, so if your TV has a Just Scan or 1:1 mode, that’s your best display option.

(This is my first DVD conversion so any suggestions would be appreciated)

Can you also please do a “no padding” version of this but with the 1977 Star Wars crawl?

Would be really great. Love your The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi DVD-5 discs but the only one I didn’t download was Star Wars because it had the A New Hope crawl.

Sorry, I prefer the Star Wars crawl over A New Hope.

Thanks in advance!

zxthehedgehog said:

I can confirm that DTS HD-MA can be matrixed with Pro Logic using my Kodi box & amplifier.

Oh, thank you.

I was thinking otherwise because I asked someone in RuTracker regarding the Studio Ghibli Blu-rays and said that DTS formats cannot have Dolby Pro Logic matrixing.

Guess he was wrong.

And that the Ghibli Blu-rays with DTS-HD Master Audio 2.0 can actually be matrixed with Dolby Pro Logic as they say in the cover.

towne32 said:

I might not have been clear. The point of the 35mm II would be several shots present in the theatrical version. The only copy we have of those shots is a horrible cam recording.

As for the picture quality: probably? It’s not like the BD looks particularly good, for II. Degrained, cleaned up, the few seconds of footage would probably fit in fine.

I’m not arguing that it’s worth spending the money on such a crappy movie. Just that it is not, technically, pointless. 😃

Yeah, I forgot.

The 35mm release is different from the DVD, digital cinema and HDTV versions.

We can still use that version when combined with the HDTV or Blu-ray versions.

ElectricTriangle said:

Even if you can’t rencode video, you should be able to mux together the DVD-5 video with whatever video and subtitles you choose and make a DVD-9. Use PgcDemux and tsmuxer to demux the DVD-5 and MKV. Then use Muxman to mux it all together to a new DVD. You can get standard-def subs from Project Threepio.

Oh, and if you want the isolated score for Star Wars in lossless, PM me.

But the DVD-5 video is below the standards of a retail DVD.

And I also need high quality Dolby Digital conversions of the DTS-HD Master Audio tracks.

zxthehedgehog said:

I think I have it pretty much done for a 0.5 release as soon as I fix a minor audio issue. Hold tight.

This will just have the mono track for now in LPCM 1.0, as I’m still tracking down some alternate music cuts for the stereo & 5.1 remixes.

Okay, even the LPCM 1.0 mix alone is worth waiting for.

Also, the 2.0 should be in Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD Master Audio with surround matrixing.

And the 5.1 audio should be DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 ES Matrix.

Anyways, what’s the predicted size of the first version?

Colson said:

FekLeyrTarg said:

I recommend uTorrent. 😃

uTorrent is a mess these days.

Yes, which is why I prefer and recommend qBittorrent better.

ccfilms said:

with which programm should i download the torrents fast and easy?

qBittorrent.

Much better than uTorrent.

Density said:

Yes, there are rips. And I actually own the CD set myself. Don’t think it was ever released on vinyl though.

Okay…

clutchins said:

Swift S. Lawliet said:

I have some other suggestions:

1. I think the English mono tracks for Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back should be LPCM 1.0 instead of DTS-HD Master Audio since there is little difference in quality and/or size and LPCM has increased compatibility compared to DTS-HD Master Audio.

2. I also think that the English 35mm Stereo mixes should be Dolby TrueHD instead of DTS-HD Master Audio so that there can be surround matrixing similar to the LaserDisc audio.
   Dolby TrueHD has this Dolby Pro Logic capability but for DTS-HD Master Audio, I’m not sure.
   There was apparently something called DTS Stereo which was used on some LaserDiscs and theatrical releases but I’m not sure if it can be used in the modernized DTS and DTS-HD codecs.
   I also think that the alternative English LaserDisc mixes should also be in Dolby TrueHD, if it is still allowed in the 48MBps bitrate limit of Blu-ray.

3. What do you think of the isolated score being in LPCM 2.0? Already posted about it but barely anyone replied to it.

I second this

Wait. I also forgot:

4. I think the 5.1 mixes should be in 6.1 or 7.1 instead (most likely 6.1)
   I actually talked to hairy_hen about this, he said he probably couldn’t perfectly test this as he only has a 5.1 system and is not entirely sure on how good it would sound.

Density said:

The problem is the version of Yub Nub on the soundtrack is the terrible version with overdubs of annoying Ewoks. The version actually used in the film is far superior, but can only be found on the old pre-SE Anthology CD set from th early 90s.

I assume there are rips of that?
And maybe a vinyl version…

ccfilms said:

Swift S. Lawliet said:

ccfilms said:

i`m not on the spleen so if somebody can help pls PM me

Sorry, but uploading Spleen material outside of the Spleen is not allowed unless the uploader approves.

I would’ve given you an invite if I had one but I don’t have any invites since I am not a power user. Try requesting HanDuet for this.

im now on the spleen where do i find these versions?

Anyways, Star Wars isn’t the only thing you will find on the Spleen. I also found some other interesting stuff there (mostly '90s TV). I downloaded the complete series of Clarissa Explains It All and burned it on DVD on my first moments in the Spleen alongside downloading the Despecialized Editions.

Just search German Star Wars Trilogy in there.

It may take a while getting used to the interface, but if you’re used to it. It’s actually very easy to use.

GlastoEls said:

Swift S. Lawliet said:

MalàStrana said:

By the way, aren’t the recently released LP based on the original LP ? “Ewok Celebration and Finale”, is it the 1983 cue or the 1997 one ?

If the digital releases are the same sources as the new LPs, I have reason to believe that it is the '83 cue.

Vinyl and digital were the original i.e. Ewok Celebration & Lapti Nek, the CDs were SE i.e. Victory Celebration & Jedi Rocks.

Actually, there are two digital releases (at least on iTunes).

The 1997 soundtrack (with the cover art from the 2004 DVD) and the Ultimate Digital Collection.

I think 35mm prints for Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith are pointless.

Those were already shot in HD. I’m not sure if it was 2K or 1080p but those were digital.

I think an Ultra HD Blu-ray release of all the prequels (The Phantom Menace being a new restoration without DNR, Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith being 4K upscales of the 1080p masters) would be the best way to preserve them but the Original Unaltered Trilogy in Ultra HD with all of the alternate mixes (70mm six track, Dolby Stereo, mono, LaserDisc) plus a new Dolby Atmos remix would what I want more.

^…^ said:

nightstalkerpoet said:

It is the 2011 version, and it’s up!

We can’t have everything… at least, it missed from our HDTV collection, and, still, could be useful for restoration purposes.

Yeah, and maybe The Force Awakens will have the IMAX version of the escape from Jakku in this broadcast.

I wish for Dark_Jedi to also do DVD-9 versions of the Despecialized Editions.

I never want to go back to GOUT after watching the Despecialized Editions.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

20th Century Fox is still the distributor for physical media releases for all movies in the series.

Yes, I know, what I am saying is when the copyrights for the physical media releases transfer to Disney (aka. 2020).

Also, it is pretty possible for Disney to release a box set of the Original Trilogy but for standalone releases, only The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi will have them while Fox releases Star Wars.

Disney can include Star Wars in a box set as long as they’re doing it under license from Fox.

They did it with The Incredible Hulk (Universal Studios) in the Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase One box set and also with Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro (Eastern Star Media) in The Collected Works of Hayao Miyazaki box set but Disney never did a standalone release of either The Incredible Hulk or Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro.

They can also do their own disc for Star Wars.
While The Incredible Hulk only copy-pasted the standalone Universal disc in the MCU: Phase One box set, the Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro disc in the Hayao Miyazaki box set is different than the standalone Eastern Star Media disc.

Maybe Disney can release the Original Unaltered Trilogy box set in Ultra HD Blu-ray, Blu-ray and DVD as well standalone versions of The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi in said formats while Fox does a standalone release of Star Wars to go along the Disney releases.

MalàStrana said:

By the way, aren’t the recently released LP based on the original LP ? “Ewok Celebration and Finale”, is it the 1983 cue or the 1997 one ?

If the digital releases are the same sources as the new LPs, I have reason to believe that it is the '83 cue.

Anywan, zxthehedgehog. How’s the project going?

And what is the primary video source, is it the Blu-ray?

So that we now have the Despecialized Editions, I have a really interesting idea.

I can’t actually do it since my PC is not that strong but at the very least I can contribute.

The Despecialized Editions only come in three flavors (720p Blu-ray compliant MKV, 20-something GB, 720p AVCHD, DVD-9, DVD-Video DVD-5).

The problem is that the DVD-5 version is a bit below the standards of an official DVD (not to mention it only includes the 5.1 mix for each movie) and the AVCHD cannot be played on regular DVD players.

I wanted something similar to Dark_Jedi’s Theatrical DVDs but with the Despecialized Editions.

My idea for this is the highest quality we can achieve with DVD.

Here’s my idea for each movie:

1. Star Wars

Video:
2:37:1 Anamorphic Widescreen 480p

Audio:

1. English (5.1ch Surround/DTS) (1977 70mm six track mix)
2. English (5.1ch Surround/Dolby Digital) (1977 70mm six track mix)
3. English (2.0ch Surround/Dolby Digital) (1977 35mm Dolby Stereo mix)
4. English (1.0ch Monoaural/Dolby Digital) (1977 35mm mono mix)
5. English (2.0ch Surround/Dolby Digital) (1985 LaserDisc mix)
6. English (2.0ch Surround/Dolby Digital) (1993 LaserDisc mix)
7. German (2.0ch Stereo/Dolby Digital) (1978 dub reconstruction)
8. Japanese (2.0ch Surround/Dolby Digital) (1978 dub)
9. Music (2.0ch Stereo/Dolby Digital) (Isolated score)
10. English (2.0ch Stereo/Dolby Digital) (1993 LD Audio Commentary - silence filled with 1993 LD 2.0)

Subtitles:

1. English
2. English SDH
3. German
4. Japanese
5. German (Forced)
6. Japanese (Forced)
7. German (Audio Commentary)
8. Japanese (Audio Commentary)

Extras:
None to preserve the quality of the movie with the highest bitrate.
Maybe there will be a bonus disc for each movie but I am not sure.

2. The Empire Strikes Back

Video:
2:37:1 Anamorphic Widescreen 480p

Audio:

1. English (5.1ch Surround/DTS) (1980 mix)
2. English (5.1ch Surround/Dolby Digital) (1980 mix)
3. English (2.0ch Surround/Dolby Digital) (1980 mix)
4. English (1.0ch Monoaural/Dolby Digital) (1980 16mm mono mix)
5. English (2.0ch Surround/Dolby Digital) (1993 LaserDisc mix)
6. German (2.0ch Stereo/Dolby Digital) (1980 dub reconstruction)
7. Japanese (2.0ch Surround/Dolby Digital) (1980 dub)
8. Music (2.0ch Stereo/Linear PCM) (Isolated score)
9. English (2.0ch Stereo/Dolby Digital) (1993 LD Audio Commentary - silence filled with 1993 LD 2.0)

Subtitles:

1. English
2. English SDH
3. German
4. Japanese
5. German (Forced)
6. Japanese (Forced)
7. German (Audio Commentary)
8. Japanese (Audio Commentary)

Extras:
None to preserve the quality of the movie with the highest bitrate.
Maybe there will be a bonus disc for each movie but I am not sure.

3. Return of the Jedi

Video:
2:37:1 Anamorphic Widescreen 480p

Audio:

1. English (5.1ch Surround/DTS) (1983 mix)
2. English (5.1ch Surround/Dolby Digital) (1983 mix)
3. English (2.0ch Surround/Dolby Digital) (1983 mix)
4. English (2.0ch Surround/Dolby Digital) (1993 LaserDisc mix)
5. German (2.0ch Stereo/Dolby Digital) (1983 dub reconstruction)
6. Japanese (2.0ch Surround/Dolby Digital) (1983 dub)
7. Music (2.0ch Stereo/Linear PCM) (Isolated score)
8. English (2.0ch Stereo/Dolby Digital) (1993 LD Audio Commentary - silence filled with 1993 LD 2.0)

Subtitles:

1. English
2. English SDH
3. German
4. Japanese
5. German (Forced)
6. Japanese (Forced)
7. German (Audio Commentary)
8. Japanese (Audio Commentary)

Extras:
None to preserve the quality of the movie with the highest bitrate.
Maybe there will be a bonus disc for each movie but I am not sure.

Other notes:
Maybe some other fans can make the German and Japanese subtitles for the commentary but I think the best I can offer is this suggestion and offering it up on the Spleen.

Again, my PC isn’t strong enough to convert video and/or make custom DVDs.

And the reason why the languages listed are English, German and Japanese is because my secondary languages are German and Japanese. But I also speak French, Italian, Russian, Korean and Chinese, among other languages.
And that I am adding most, if not all of the English mixes for each movie.

The bitrates for at least the English tracks should be:
DTS 5.1: 1509kbps
Dolby Digital 5.1: 640kbps
Dolby Digital 2.0: 448kbps
Dolby Digital 1.0: 256kbps

I have actually seen some Chinese bootleg DVDs with 640kbps Dolby Digital 5.1 so it is possible in DVD.

Also, the DTS and Dolby Digital 5.1 tracks will be identical mixes but the DTS version has a higher bitrate.

And I think the Japanese and German tracks will only be 192kbps.

I have some other suggestions:

1. I think the English mono tracks for Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back should be LPCM 1.0 instead of DTS-HD Master Audio since there is little difference in quality and/or size and LPCM has increased compatibility compared to DTS-HD Master Audio.

2. I also think that the English 35mm Stereo mixes should be Dolby TrueHD instead of DTS-HD Master Audio so that there can be surround matrixing similar to the LaserDisc audio.
   Dolby TrueHD has this Dolby Pro Logic capability but for DTS-HD Master Audio, I’m not sure.
   There was apparently something called DTS Stereo which was used on some LaserDiscs and theatrical releases but I’m not sure if it can be used in the modernized DTS and DTS-HD codecs.
   I also think that the alternative English LaserDisc mixes should also be in Dolby TrueHD, if it is still allowed in the 48MBps bitrate limit of Blu-ray.

3. What do you think of the isolated score being in LPCM 2.0? Already posted about it but barely anyone replied to it. Again, only if it’s still within the 48mbps bitrate limit of Blu-ray.