Swift S. Lawliet

Can you make covers for TN1’s The Empire Strikes Back: Renegade Grindhouse Edition and Harmy’s Return of the Jedi: 35mm LPP Grindhouse Edition to go along with your cover of TN1’s Star Wars: The Silver Screen Edition?

I think it will complete the 35mm scan collection and it would be really nice.

Also, there’s a typo in the Executor cover of The Empire Strikes Back saying that it has the Original “TheatUical” Trailers.

I think it will be very easy for you to correct the typs, especially since the Executor cover is my favorite out of all of them.

I am not being harsh towards your work since I really love your work here and love all your covers, in fact, your covers in general (especially the Executor set) are my number one favorite, number two being phildesfr’s Blu-ray covers number three being vigothcarpathian’s version, number four being ronwilm’s box set, and number five being doublex776’s Faces covers.

P.S: Can you also do disc art for the Executor sets? I think they would be really great.

• JEDIT: I thought the miscapitalizations of “Walker” and “Rancor” were exclusive to this version. Turns out, they were also in the actual Executor set and I think you are trying to replicate the Executor set accurately, including the typos. And that’s a good thing.

Dat_SW_Guy said:

Unfortunately I did not record the Episode IV dub due to low storage.

Okay, better luck next time for us.

But at least you can still free more space in your hard drive and record The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi in the following weeks while hoping (pun intended) that Star Wars will also get another rerun in it’s Tagalog dub.

CTS-80 said:

Can you put the .mvk versions of the DE Trilogy onto a disc for a dvd player?

No, they are too large to fit.

Dat_SW_Guy said:

I am using Audacity to record it, But hey, can your record it for me via Online?

Sorry, I can’t.

Dat_SW_Guy said:

I might not be in my home when Episode IV will stream, So I will assign someone to do so, Then I will send him/her with a PM for the live stream.

Okay. Just make sure it is of very high quality, and even if the quality isn’t that good. Keep it.

And don’t forget to put it on the Spleen after it’s finished.

Dat_SW_Guy said:

I am currently streaming via The Internet Because I could not find my hard drive.
Lets Go!

Yes. This 7pm (Philippine time), I am currently in Hong Kong so our time zones are more or less the same since Hong Kong and Philippines (GMT +8).

CatBus said:

For my purposes (meaning: to sync to the GOUT), all I need is audio in the best possible quality. No video required, no sync of any sort required, no commercials edited out, etc. I’m willing to wait for the whole trilogy, though, it’s not like I don’t have plenty else to do in the meantime.

If, however, there are subtitles to cover things like the crawl or alien dialogue that they opted not to dub over, then I’d need that text. Screenshots or transcriptions are fine, video isn’t required.

I actually can’t record it since I am currently in Hong Kong.

What we need is to make a restored version using the Blu-ray which then becomes an upscaled LaserDisc transfer in the “When the Love is Gone” song and reverts to Blu-ray after said song.

BTW The LaserDisc rip is on the Spleen.

Also, someone should move this to the Other Preservations and Fan Projects category instead of the Other Fan Edits category.

towne32 said:

RoninZ said:

Long time fan of this site and finally got a home theater. I can’t pull the trigger buying the official blurays (the Vader “noo” was the last straw). Would love to get a hold of these blurays but don’t have a myspleen account. Anyone willing to PM me an invite?

Indeed, as one69chev said, we support the official releases because our goal here is certainly not to divert funds from Disney’s blu-ray sales. They’ve been surprisingly non-combative with this scene, and that’s how we would like things to stay. For 99% of us, that means that the blu-rays just sit there on a shelf, unused (or are ripped to our PCs in order to edit into something proper). But we certainly do not support the notion of downloading a free version of the films instead of paying anything.

Just a question: Do you still need the official Blu-ray/Digital HD release if you want to download the Despecialized DVD-5 or is it okay even if you only have the official DVD?

Also, the 2011 edits are on DVD in Hong Kong, Taiwan and Philippines.

I am just asking this question as a little hole in the rules even if I have the official Blu-ray.

We really need this as well, seconded.

Especially because I want to hear Sumi Shimamoto dubbing Princess Leia.

Self-bump because I am hopeful that there is more news.

Dat_SW_Guy said:

Well I know a friend who is full Tagalog.

They are showing Star Wars tomorrow night 7:00pm (in Philippine time) in TV5, can you or your friend record it?

And they are definitely going to show The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi in the following weeks.

Also, please report to us if it’s the 2004 or 2011 version.

And if it’s the 2011 version, please upload the audio files synced to the Blu-ray in the Spleen.

This would help many Filipino Star Wars fans or anyone who wants cheesy “Hong Kong-style” dubs.

Also, are bootleg translations available?

Since I am planning to buy either a Chinese bootleg Star Wars DVD box set or a Chinese bootleg Studio Ghibli DVD box set during my time in Hong Kong.

And apparently, very few of these DVDs have unofficial Mandarin or Cantonese dubs (mostly Mandarin), and I also heard of bootleg Mandarin-dubbed and bootleg Cantonese-dubbed versions of Star Wars.

Molly said:

We have been looking, without success, for someone in the region who would be able to record it for us. 😕

It is extremely rare for Asian-market English dubs to make it to video anywhere (Cardcaptor Sakura is a counterexample). This would be important to capture for preservation.

Some more counterexamples include the Filipino-made English dubbed versions of Voltes V and Daimos which were released on VCD but only in the Philippines.

The box sets were apparently holy grails for anime fans, which is why I first heard of these box sets.

JDawg72 said:

How do I download the 2.6v. Is thr a site or wht?

2.7 is better in every way.

That is what you should look for.

You need an invite to MySpleen for that which I can’t give you since I am only a regular user.

nafroe said:

Swift S. Lawliet said:

captainsolo said:

As far as I know, the prequels were never mixed into matrix DTS. TPM was the premiere movie for Dolby EX matrix and DTS later premiered their ES variant.
I don’t think the discrete ES version was ever used theatrically, as it was primarily designed for home video. Neither system really took off and became more of a marketing gimmick for video. Then THX discovered a flaw that caused the ear to miscue sound and necessitated the reconfiguration into 7.1.

I’ve tried the prequels in the various decoders and they work fine. The OT being 6.1 is evidence of how lazy they are. The awful DVD mixes were in DD EX and then these were decoded back to 6.1 at the source before being further bastardized.

But AOTC had the DTS-ES logo on the end credits.

And apparently, some of the Studio Ghibli films like Spirited Away were DTS-ES 6.1 in the theatrical release.

And the reason why some of these Ghibli films are 6.1 is because they were theatrically presented in 6.1 and Studio Ghibli usually frowns upon remixing audio for surround and will always use the theatrical audio, even if it’s mono or Dolby Stereo. But they are still generous enough to give lossless audio, though.

Also, Spirited Away has one of the best 6.1 mixes ever, probable even beating the Star Wars movies.

The original DVD of Gladiator had DTS-ES 6.1 and sounded excellent.

Yes, I knew that. Also, The Lord of the Rings Extended Trilogy was DTS-ES 6.1.

I am not sure which movie should be my top 1 and if it should be the LOTR: EE Trilogy as a whole or Spirited Away.

^…^ said:

Once there is the script, in where there is a call for each scene, I think it could be always possible to do two (or three versions), as I suggested some posts before; one with the best quality clips, and another with (almost all) the others discarded for the former reinserted, including the b&w.

Forgot to mention: if there are alternative take/different angle, with finished effect, that could not affect the overall quality of the final result, would you prefer that it is used instead the shot seen in the movie?

Bewy, thanks for the link; it is really informative.

Menus: I knew they were not deleted scenes, BUT… they always could be used to replace some bad shot in the deleted scene - Wampa comes to mind.
Sadly, the best ones have the written all on them, BUT… I managed to fix it, and result, albeit imperfect, is nice; I used the duel menu to make a simple intro, that I’d like to attach before any film, along with the BD logo carved in the stone with a lightsaber.

Test clip: https://fs09n5.sendspace.com/dl/a90c8c5ac355a850a19b17f652f63d2b/5844103e42bee4af/s5yitj/menu-test-final.ts

The only provlem I have with this test clip is the PAL speedup. Really hope this will be corrected in the final version.

Dat_SW_Guy said:

For me The only ads I experience are Ads for a gas company named Shell. But I am in the Philippines so I can hitch a recording straight from here.

Bad (in case you care about the prequels) news, the Revenge of the Sith Tagalog dub aired last night in Filipino time.

And some ambiguous news, I am not sure if they are following the Episode order or Release Date order so I am not sure if they are gonna show Star Wars next Saturday, looks like they are following Episode order, though.

Maybe you can record Star Wars next week and The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi in the following weeks.

captainsolo said:

As far as I know, the prequels were never mixed into matrix DTS. TPM was the premiere movie for Dolby EX matrix and DTS later premiered their ES variant.
I don’t think the discrete ES version was ever used theatrically, as it was primarily designed for home video. Neither system really took off and became more of a marketing gimmick for video. Then THX discovered a flaw that caused the ear to miscue sound and necessitated the reconfiguration into 7.1.

I’ve tried the prequels in the various decoders and they work fine. The OT being 6.1 is evidence of how lazy they are. The awful DVD mixes were in DD EX and then these were decoded back to 6.1 at the source before being further bastardized.

But AOTC had the DTS-ES logo on the end credits.

And apparently, some of the Studio Ghibli films like Spirited Away were DTS-ES 6.1 in the theatrical release.

And the reason why some of these Ghibli films are 6.1 is because they were theatrically presented in 6.1 and Studio Ghibli usually frowns upon remixing audio for surround and will always use the theatrical audio, even if it’s mono or Dolby Stereo. But they are still generous enough to give lossless audio, though.

Also, Spirited Away has one of the best 6.1 mixes ever, probably even beating the Star Wars movies.

How about the one with Kylo Ren activating his crossguard lightsaber?

doubleKO said:

Used as a signature on another site hopefully  ;)

Signature images without animation are bad enough. I block them all, as a rule. (Tobar and CatBus have the exceptions to that rule).

Yes. For another site.

Does anyone have a GIF of Han shooting first?

I searched on Google and the colors are terrible, like the 2011 Blu-rays but even worse.

I just want something sourced from Despecialized 2.7 and of pretty nice quality but can still be used as a signature.

Thanks in advance!

So, how were the Russian extended editions?

I didn’t check on them because I think they would be of pretty low quality and my space is running low.

RU.08 said:

Ha! The sooner this get scanned the better. I haven’t seen any bootlegs, but from every single release I’ve seen world-wide going back to the VHS it does not look right! This project will show you how it should look. I can’t really say anything about the sound since it’s been more than 15 years since I’ve watched this film on home video or TV.

Yes, this restoration will be the best. I can feel it.

But this bootleg is still interesting, even if it’s unnecessary to this project, since it had 640kbps Dolby Digital audio on a standard DVD.

Something many people though was impossible, most people thought than 448 was the maximum, guess they were wrong.

And it plays even on regular DVD players.

Apaprently, most Chinese bootleg DVD-9 discs with the Blu-ray logo have 640kbps Dolby Digital alongside a 1509kbps DTS mix in the original language if it’s sourced from a Blu-ray.

RU.08 said:

Swift S. Lawliet said:

Yes, you’re right.

Anyways, can we try not to derail this discussion?

Yeah sure of course. BATB is my favorite Disney movie which is why I can’t bring myself to watch the BD. All I do is look through it at paused scenes and digress. 😦

Anyways, I have a bootlegged Chinese DVD of the Diamond Edition.

It is very high quality, as far as a DVD will take it and has higher a bitrate than the official DVD for both video and audio.

It’s one of those Chinese DVD-9 bootlegs which deliberately mislabel it as a Blu-ray to note that it is sourced from a Blu-ray or just for the hell of it (usually the former).

And no, it’s not an AVCHD. It’s a standard DVD and can play in regular DVD players.

The DVD I have has no bonus material other than the soundtrack which is very highly compressed in 192kbps Dolby Digital 2.0 and it only contains the Special Edition and the audio commentary.

But this DVD has a higher bitrate for the audio, it’s in 640kbps Dolby Digital 5.1 downmixed from the Blu-ray’s DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 (again, unbelievable for a DVD since most DVDs have 448kbps and most people think 448kbps is the maximum for DVD). It also has a 1509kbps DTS 5.1 (extracted from the core of the 7.1 DTS-HD MA) in 24-bit/48khz.

But that’s only the English audio.

It also has Mandarin, Cantonese, Thai and Korean dubs in 384kbps Dolby Digital 5.1 and the French audio in 192kbps Dolby Digital 2.0.

It also has English SDH, French, Spanish, Traditional and Simplified Chinese, Thai and Korean subtitles alongside subtitles in aforementioned languages for the audio commentary and sing along subtitles based on the Mandarin dub.

Bonus: The Mandarin version has Jackie Chan as the singing voice of the Beast and even sings the theme song in the end credits of the Mandarin dub alongside a Taiwanese singer named Sarah Chen.

They are more or less unofficial equivalents of Sony’s Superbit DVDs, having no bonus features for the sake of bitrate.

However, these DVDs may have bonus features like the occasional audio commentary and/or soundtrack.

There are a few with many bonus features but they are usually barebones aside from the occasional audio commentary and/or soundtrack.

But what I found really weird is that this version only has the Special Edition, without the “Theatrical” Edition nor the Work-in-Progress Edition in sight.

I know some bootlegs have seamless branching for movies with multiple versions.

I saw it on bootlegs of The Lion King and The Lord of the Rings Trilogy.

These “Blu-ray” DVD-9 bootlegs are the highest quality bootlegs I can see.

Again, they aren’t AVCHD and are just regular DVDs.

But these Chinese DVD-9 bootlegs in America, usually they only have wuxia films and the Studio Ghibli films (the Chinese love Studio Ghibli so much) there. They are apparently more common in Hong Kong and Philippines.

I saw plenty of them in my visits in both countries but never had the time to buy them.

Unlike most bootlegs, they aren’t that crazy looking and are pretty good imitations of the official versions, except for the misleading Blu-ray logo.

RU.08 said:

Swift S. Lawliet said:

And AOTC was a different version on the 35mm version rather than the digital cinema version (which is also on DVD).

Well I can tell you because I saw both AOTC and ROTS on film on release that some scenes were quite grainy! For example, the battle in ATOC on Geonosis had some scenes which were quite grainy. Anyway, I doubt they would have outputted 1280x1024 to film - the standard going all the way back to the early 90’s was to output 2K to film - does not apply to 3D like Toy Story (rendered at 1536×922). If we ever get a chance to scan AOTC/ROTS I am very confident they will be higher quality than the original digital versions, but lower than the BDs.

Yes, you’re right.

Anyways, can we try not to derail this discussion?