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#1523087
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How to Watch Star Wars, Part Two: The Special Editions Are the Movies, Get Over It
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BedeHistory731 said:

At least they only have 1/3 of the word count that Stardust1138 had.

Oh God, don’t remind me. 😉

But it’s interesting you brought him up, because I remember he was a massive Rick Worley fan too. Why does that guy have so many loyal followers? Why do 4 hour apologia sessions for some of the most hated creators in history seem appealing to anyone?

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#1523021
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Who is the most annoying character in Each Trilogy? Excluding Jar Jar, Rose, and C-3PO.
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CarboniteSolo said:

When Anakin is courting Padme on Naboo is just so cringe. Padme is marrying this guy who’s talking about sand, and kills Tusken women and children really? But he saved her life 10 years ago, so it’s ok.

He didn’t even save her life 10 years ago, though: that was added in fan edits. In the actual movie, her decoy was the one who bailed her out. So Padme has literally zero reason to fall in love with Ani.

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#1523000
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The Star Wars Fan Edits Request Thread: Request the links to Star Wars fan edits here
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spargbotu said:

An edit of CW S6 Protocol 66 arc with The Siege of Mandalore (last 4 ep) , for a ~2h movie i feel would be great. Ticky to make, but great.

Sorry, but this thread is for requesting links to edits that already exist. If you want an edit that doesn’t exist, make it yourself. Be the change you want to see in the world.

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#1522910
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Info & Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist
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BedeHistory731 said:

I’ve got one idea, that uses the end credits version of “Parade of the Ewoks” (appropriately upbeat/triumphant for the party - and has Yub Nub vibes sans lyrics), that segues into “Luke and Leia” from the end credits once Luke shows up.

https://streamable.com/lxn8m8

I like the concept, but I’m not so sure about the execution. Since “Parade of the Ewoks” was written for a battle scene, it ends up making the scene feel weirdly intense (which is definitely not the tone we’re going for).

In general, finding a track that both fits the mood of the scene and syncs up to the theatrical editing (so Ady could have Yub Nub on an alternate audio track if he chooses to do this) is proving to be almost impossible. I’m looking for a track that has the same bittersweet vibe as Victory Celebration, while not being anachronistically “90s”, but pretty much all the tracks that fit the bill don’t have the dramatic pickup you need for a proper Star Wars ending.

In fact, listening to all the tracks that completely fail to work as an ending for ROTJ is honestly making me appreciate Yub Nub more. It’s hard to give a scene of teddy bears dancing any gravitas, so might as well go full “kids movie dance party ending” with it.

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#1522853
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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Jedi122 said:

StarkillerAG said:

DZ-330 said:

I was just playing with the End Credits track from the ROTJ soundtrack and threw this together. I think it could work as a replacement for Yub Nub. Obviously needs some cleanup and polish though. Definitely feels more StarWars-y than either official version in my opinion. Maybe Ady will consider an alternate audio track for the Yub Nub naysayers 😂

https://streamable.com/xx3kjc

That one starts out pretty amazing (I’m glad you aren’t saving the main theme needledrop for Rise of Crapwalker)

I’d appreciate no ST dunking, okay?

It was just my opinion, dude. People can think whatever they want about these movies, but I’m not gonna be silent about my opinions just because some people can’t take criticism.

DZ-330 said:

StarkillerAG said:

That one starts out pretty amazing (I’m glad you aren’t saving the main theme needledrop for Rise of Crapwalker), but I’m not so sure about the force ghost moment onwards. It feels a bit weird going from a triumphant rendition of the main theme, straight to another triumphant rendition of the theme in the typical credits music.

That was my issue, I couldn’t get a good enough transition from the Luke & Leia theme to the end credits. At this rate, I think we are stuck with Yub Nub! I don’t want to derail Ady’s thread any longer unless he is open to switching out Yub Nub for something else. If he is open to it, I’d be happy to mix together another audio track or help him make a decision in what he will end up using.

You’re probably right. At this point, I’ve sort of accepted Ady keeping the teddy bear dance music. I can always just pause the edit after the funeral scene ends.

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#1522830
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Info &amp; Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist
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Crossposting my comment in the Revisited thread here, because Nev wants this to be the place to discuss replacing Yub Nub:

DZ-330 said:

I was just playing with the End Credits track from the ROTJ soundtrack and threw this together. I think it could work as a replacement for Yub Nub. Obviously needs some cleanup and polish though. Definitely feels more StarWars-y than either official version in my opinion. Maybe Ady will consider an alternate audio track for the Yub Nub naysayers 😂

https://streamable.com/xx3kjc

That one starts out pretty amazing (I’m glad you aren’t saving the main theme needledrop for Rise of Crapwalker), but I’m not so sure about the force ghost moment onwards. It feels a bit weird going from a triumphant rendition of the main theme, straight to another triumphant rendition of the theme in the typical credits music.

Since BedeHistory’s version had the opposite problem (starting out sort of iffy but turning out great by the end), maybe we could hybridize the two approaches? Have the Star Wars theme playing over the initial joyous celebration, but then switch to “Luke and Leia” from the trio reunion onwards.

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#1522829
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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DZ-330 said:

I was just playing with the End Credits track from the ROTJ soundtrack and threw this together. I think it could work as a replacement for Yub Nub. Obviously needs some cleanup and polish though. Definitely feels more StarWars-y than either official version in my opinion. Maybe Ady will consider an alternate audio track for the Yub Nub naysayers 😂

https://streamable.com/xx3kjc

That one starts out pretty amazing (I’m glad you aren’t saving the main theme needledrop for Rise of Crapwalker), but I’m not so sure about the force ghost moment onwards. It feels a bit weird going from a triumphant rendition of the main theme, straight to another triumphant rendition of the theme in the typical credits music.

Since BedeHistory’s version had the opposite problem (starting out sort of iffy but turning out great by the end), maybe we could hybridize the two approaches? Have the Star Wars theme playing over the initial joyous celebration, but then switch to “Luke and Leia” from the trio reunion onwards.

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#1522668
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The Unpopular Film, TV, Music, Art, Books, Comics, Games, &amp; Technology Opinion Thread (for all you contrarians!)
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I tried watching the original Top Gun once, but only because I was on an international flight and I had nothing better to do. Even then, it sucked. I don’t even know if I got halfway though before turning it off, it was so intensely forgettable.

The sequel is genuinely great though, and I would highly recommend it. Even if you have never seen the original movie, it’s still a great standalone story.

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#1522666
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Worst Edit Ideas
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Mash up all the scenes of Rey training in TLJ into a “cheesy 80s action movie” style training montage, complete with an original synth-rock song about believing in yourself and becoming a champion. In order to fit the montage with the rest of the movie, rescore the entire soundtrack with more cheesy synth-rock.

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#1522604
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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DZ-330 said:

Any chance on ending on something other than Yub Nub? Another Williams track perhaps?

Yeah, I’d like that too. I already suggested it a year or so ago, but I don’t know if Ady saw it. I get not liking the “We Are the World” track in the SE, but Yub Nub is even worse in my opinion. It makes me feel like I’m watching a crappy 80s direct-to-video family movie, not the conclusion to the greatest film trilogy of all time.

Someone did a mockup of the “Luke and Leia” theme from the soundtrack album inserted into the Ewok celebration, and I remember it worked really well. Of course, you’d have to cut out the shots of the Ewoks playing instruments, but I think it’s a great track to end the trilogy on. Melancholy, yet somehow incredibly cathartic.

If Ady thinks this is a bad idea, he’s fine to say so, but I hope he at least considers it. I cannot understate how much I hate Yub Nub.

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#1522570
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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DZ-330 said:

Per the WordPress site,
“Remove Yub Nub & Victory Celebration”

That’s a bit outdated. He later decided to bring Yub Nub back, but in a trimmed fashion. Victory Celebration is still gone though. I wish it wasn’t, because I honestly love it, but whatever. Ady can do what he wants.

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#1522413
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<s>The inaccuracies in &quot;How Star Wars Was Saved in the Edit&quot;</s>
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Ejn said:

StarkillerAG said:

BedeHistory731 said:

That one uber prequel apologist, So Uncivilized, lost all credibility for me when he championed Nerdonymous’ video.

You mean the one who did a video that basically said “Sure, the prequels’ dialogue is awful, but that makes it memorable, so you aren’t allowed to criticize it”, but stretched out to 10 minutes long? Yeah, he had no credibility to me from the very beginning.

“Eminem has memorable lyrics but to me it doesn’t sound like things real people would naturally say, therefore it’s bad and he’s a hack.”

Sweet Jesus, that’s a bad argument. Literally the biggest case of false equivalency I’ve ever seen.

Like, I don’t know if you realize this, but songs literally CANNOT sound natural. If a song sounded like natural speech, it would just be some guy ranting with no rhythm or melody while an instrumental track played in the background. “Naturalism” is literally the least important thing in a musician’s mind.

But meanwhile, movies definitely have the capability to sound natural. In fact, most people would argue that’s what a scriptwriter should aim for. Of course, you don’t always need to sound natural: Even in the original Star Wars, the spiritual mentor characters spoke in a more poetic way to emphasize their mythic nature. But when it came to the more down-to-earth characters that Star Wars mostly focuses on, they spoke in a very natural way, with the perfect combination of relatable awkwardness and powerful emotion. That selectively-applied naturalism is part of the overall concoction of scriptwriting genius that made the OT so relatable to millions of people.

And that combination of poetry and naturalism is exactly where the prequels fell flat. There were no more down-to-earth, relatable characters, no natural, semi-awkward speech: everyone just spoke in the exact same mixture of “bureaucratic meeting” and “high-schooler’s attempt at writing a sonnet”. It was awkward in the absolute worst way, and it’s possibly the biggest reason why the prequels are so hard to watch as an adult.

Ejn said:

G&G-Fan said:

SparkySywer said:

Anyway, I apologize to you G&G Fan. I was wrong about what I said, and it’s embarrassing to look at the original thread and see myself defending a viewpoint which I really think should have been obvious how wrong it was. I’m feeling that way more and more about the shit I’ve said on the internet years past. Although Nerdonymous’s major chip on his shoulder really does make the video fucking suck.

You’re good man. I’ll think about messages I’ve sent here before that just make me cringe (me bending over backwards to defend the Prequels, like my old Yoda thread). I’ve funnily gone from one of the biggest Prequel defenders on the forum to agreeing with a lot of people’s issues, even if I still enjoy ROTS a lot (tho I’ve changed my mind about it being better then ANH; ANH is awesome). My last rewatch of the saga had me saying a lot of the stuff OT fans say. I used to use Rick fucking Worley videos to support my points before coming to the inevitable realization that he’s an egotistical idiot (probably should’ve been tipped off by him slandering Marvel; the MCU is awesome, I will take no sass). Sometimes I’ve exploded in ways that are just embarrassing to look back at, too.

But in the end we all grow and change and evolve.

His opinion that MCU isn’t cinema (an opinion shared by some of the greatest filmmakers out there) automatically makes him an idiot and invalidates any insights he’s had on Star Wars?

That’s honestly a pretty decent point. If anything, “he thinks the MCU is regurgitated fast-food trash” should be taken as a sign of intelligence. Sorry Marvel fans, but your movies suck.

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#1522203
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I wish Darth maul was the main villain for the Prequels.
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Superweapon VII said:

Vader88 said:

I like Christopher Lee but the fight scenes with Count Dooku are comical. Christopher Lee was too old and the fight had to be zoomed in.

I’d say all the fight scenes in the PT are comical.

Nah, not all of them. They’re all stupid, but there’s a big difference between “stupid” and “comical”. The best fight scenes in the PT are the ones that avoid being comical by distracting the audience from how stupid they are.

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#1522160
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Who is the most annoying character in Each Trilogy? Excluding Jar Jar, Rose, and C-3PO.
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First of all, I object to the title of this thread. Rose is not really “annoying”, she’s just boring and pointless. And anyone who says C-3PO is annoying has no soul. 😉

But to answer your question, I’d probably say the battle droids in the prequels. They’re clearly supposed to be funny, but they’re just not. The only moment when I genuinely laughed at them is when that one droid in TPM took 10 seconds to realize that Qui-Gon was the Jedi he was looking for. Other then that, they should deactivate their voice boxes permanently.

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#1522120
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<strong>Star Wars (1977)</strong> - a general <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> thread
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Marooned Biker Scout said:

What was Vader expecting to find when he was stepping on Obi Wan’s cloak after he had struck Kenobi down?
 

Some pocket sand? A hole in the floor where Obi Wan had disappeared down? A note with the message “look behind you, the Rebels, the Princess and the two familiar droids are escaping, and you’re still standing here stomping on my cloak”?

Or something else?

All joking aside, Vader was probably just perplexed that his mortal enemy vanished for no apparent reason just when he was about to kill him.

Actually, I never thought about this until now, but that might be part of the reason why Lucas retconned it so that Obi-Wan was the first Jedi to vanish after dying. If it was a normal thing for Jedi, there would be no reason why Vader was so perplexed.

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#1521969
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I wish Darth maul was the main villain for the Prequels.
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Superweapon VII said:

Maul was only interesting when he was a piece of Iain McCaig concept art, IMO. I fuckin’ hate the character otherwise.

I wish Qui-Gon and Dooku had been a single character and he had been the main villain for the prequels (and genuinely opposed to Palpatine rather than being his penultimate patsy).

Agreed 100%. Maul looks neat, but he doesn’t have the substance to be anything more than a one-off mook.

Dooku genuinely had incredible potential though, although I wouldn’t want him to be Qui-Gon. I wish someone could compile all of Christopher Lee’s lines in 90s and 2000s movies, so that Sidious’ TPM dialogue could be replaced with reasonable Dooku equivalents.

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#1521063
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Favorite 80s TV shows!
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JadedSkywalker said:

Flash Gordon Filmation
and He-Man filmation

Thundercats

Transformers first two seasons and the movie only.

I agree on Thundercats and Transformers being awesome, they have aged surprisingly well. But pretty much everything that Filmation produced back then is an absolute abomination. Watching even short clips from He-Man makes me want to off myself.

In terms of 80s animated series, though, the best was clearly on the Japanese side. Macross/Robotech, Gundam, Urusei Yatsura, Dirty Pair, I could go on. Back then, anime was actually intended for normal people, not weirdo fetishists who have never seen sunlight in years.

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#1521029
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The Star Wars Fan Edits Request Thread: Request the links to Star Wars fan edits here
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AdmiralWasabi10191 said:

Only interested in fan edits of Original Trilogy, and Prequel Trilogy with subtitles. The rest of the fan edits, hoo buoy, there’s too many of them.

NO ONE CARES. It’s fine to have a specific taste, but if 90% of your posts are gonna be about how you only like 4K edits of the original 6 movies with subtitles and no DNR, people are just gonna ignore you. We get it, we understand, can you please move on?