Someone on r/PrequelMemes just made a ROTS/TCW mashup in this style:
4 hours is a long runtime though. Ideally a perfected edit would get that down to about 3 hours.
It’s a shame that even after Carrie’s death, Iger refused to give them an extra year.
He did give them an extra six months though, to be fair, since it was originally supposed to come out in May 2019.
At the same time as Avengers Endgame…
Imagine how hard that would have bombed.
Yep should have just had Rian continue directing using the trashed screenplay. But I do like TROS, even with all its shortcomings as the weakest part of the new trilogy. I like it enough to do something with it as it is. I think I toned down Finn enough to be likable now. And I’m ok with how the Rey arc ends on Tatooine. Now if someone wants to matte out the Jawas and make some unmarked graves in the Jakku desert as Rey flies in the Falcon, I’d be willing to take a look. But that’s not going to change things enough to be worth it imo.
You just summed up my current feelings on this movie. It’s definitely the weakest movie of the new trilogy, but I don’t think the constant hate for it, especially on this site, is warranted. I think it can be turned into a worthwhile movie with a bit of editing magic.
since they prioritised political agendas of their incompetent producers and directors over the story, characters and eventually even profit of ST.
Oh God, you’re one of those people.
But Luke wasn’t planning to appear before the Emperor - Vader took Luke to Palpatine when he initially refused to turn back to the light side as Luke asked him to. Luke wanted to surrender to the Imperials to avoid having Vader sense what the Rebels were doing through him, and to have a face-to-face talk with his father. If he failed at turning his father, he might be killed, but his friends would no longer be in danger from his Force link to Vader.
And besides, why would Luke think it was his job to kill the Emperor anyway? The Rebel fleet destroying the Death Star was supposed to be responsible for that.
a) he turned himself in because his being sensed was a liability,
Yes, that’s true. But that helped, didn’t it? Han and Leia didn’t want to be sensed while on their super secret infiltration mission.
Yes, but this isn’t a good thing. This is further evidence that Jedi Knights might not be the best idea in town. It’s like the fat kid in a football team realising that maybe he should sit this one out.
But that’s not what Luke was doing. It seems like you think his actions in the throne room were an act of cowardice, but they were actually an act of bravery. He restored the heart within his father, and in the process destroyed the Sith. That’s not a cowardly act at all, and it in no way makes Luke equivalent to a fat kid on a football team.
b) his only concern was redeeming his father - not destroying the Sith
Not true at all. If you actually watch the movie, it clearly shows that Luke wants to redeem his father as a way to destroy the Sith. It’s completely obvious, and I feel like you’re not even trying to look at the details of the movie.
Okay, this is the meat of the matter and I’m not being facetious - where in the movie is it obvious that Luke sees redeeming Vader as a means of destroying the Sith and, by extension, helping the battle’s outcome? To give a Sam Harris analogy, if I were to slip on the kitchen floor and stab you with a knife, this would yield the same result as me deliberately seeking to murder you with that knife. The difference is intent. Luke’s intention in the movie is spelled out - he can’t bring himself to kill his dad and wants to bring him to the good side. He says nothing about destroying the Sith, and all of his actions - his hesitation, his hiding under the stairs, and his relinquishing his weapon - bear out his intentions. I’m just stating what the film states. Now, everyone in this conversation claims I’m missing an implied subtext - that Luke saw all of this as a means to bring Palpatine down. I just don’t see it. Furthermore I would say that ethically Luke should have had destroying the Sith at the forefront of his thoughts and intentions - not redeeming Vader. If the film had shown Luke to be demonstrably doing all he could to defeat the Emperor - with Vader’s turn as an offshoot of this process - then it would make ethical sense and Luke would indeed be the ‘hope’ that the saga had branded him. As it stands the death of Palpatine is the offshoot with Luke’s personal (and I would say selfish) family concerns being his primary focus.
It’s never outright stated, but the implication is there. Yoda explicitly warns Luke, “Do not underestimate the power of the Emperor.” After that discussion, he begins to genuinely wonder whether Vader can be turned back to the light. This implies that he wants to get Vader’s help in destroying Palpatine, and that implication is furthered when Luke literally begs Vader to turn back as he’s about to be brought before the Emperor. He knows that Vader is his only hope of ending the Empire once and for all.
c) it was the fleet destroying the DS that was responsible for the victory.
The fleet was part of it, but if Luke didn’t redeem Vader there would be no guarantee that Palpatine would die. Remember all those Imperial officers evacuating in the scene where Vader dies? Palpatine would be one of them if Luke hadn’t convinced Vader to intervene.
Note there is nothing good about Luke having to turn himself in to nullify detection. This makes him a liability - not an asset! What turned the tide of the battle was Chewbacca hijacking a Scout Walker, not the fact that Luke was in the throne room. The movie should be called Return Of The Wookiee.
I feel like you think the Endor battle and Luke’s redemption of Vader are part of the same thing, when they actually have completely different goals. Luke wasn’t trying to help the Rebels blow up the Death Star, that would just be a short term victory that doesn’t matter in the big scheme of things. Instead, he chose to use his father’s inner conflict to destroy Palpatine, guaranteeing victory once and for all.
See above. I still maintain Luke only cared about redeeming Vader.
And I still maintain that Luke cared about Vader as a means of destroying Palpatine. But since it’s clear that neither of us will budge on our positions, maybe we should just stop.
Guess it’s purely a subjective thing. I personally felt like returning to Tatooine was a good choice, both for the movie and Rey’s character. It’s a nice place for her to honor the Skywalker legacy, and it shows that Rey now considers herself part of that metaphorical “family”.
I feel like you’re intentionally twisting things to make your interpretation work.
I’m beginning to agree.
Why would I do that? This was my first impression in 1983 when the film came out, not some meme that I’ve been captivated by. I wanted to love this film! TESB is still my favourite movie of all time. Why would I want ROTJ to suck? If anything I’d love to be convinced otherwise.
Well, you might want to watch the movie again. It seems like you haven’t watched it in a long time, and as a result your perception of it might be warped. In my opinion, it’s kind of uneven, but it’s still a great end to the trilogy. I highly recommend watching it again.
Yeah, all of those questions have answers, they’re not really plot holes. And I think the whole idea of “plot holes” as a way to objectively critique movies is really dumb in general, but that’s another story.
But Luke wasn’t planning to appear before the Emperor - Vader took Luke to Palpatine when he initially refused to turn back to the light side as Luke asked him to. Luke wanted to surrender to the Imperials to avoid having Vader sense what the Rebels were doing through him, and to have a face-to-face talk with his father. If he failed at turning his father, he might be killed, but his friends would no longer be in danger from his Force link to Vader.
And besides, why would Luke think it was his job to kill the Emperor anyway? The Rebel fleet destroying the Death Star was supposed to be responsible for that.
a) he turned himself in because his being sensed was a liability,
Yes, that’s true. But that helped, didn’t it? Han and Leia didn’t want to be sensed while on their super secret infiltration mission.
b) his only concern was redeeming his father - not destroying the Sith
Not true at all. If you actually watch the movie, it clearly shows that Luke wants to redeem his father as a way to destroy the Sith. It’s completely obvious, and I feel like you’re not even trying to look at the details of the movie.
c) it was the fleet destroying the DS that was responsible for the victory.
The fleet was part of it, but if Luke didn’t redeem Vader there would be no guarantee that Palpatine would die. Remember all those Imperial officers evacuating in the scene where Vader dies? Palpatine would be one of them if Luke hadn’t convinced Vader to intervene.
Note there is nothing good about Luke having to turn himself in to nullify detection. This makes him a liability - not an asset! What turned the tide of the battle was Chewbacca hijacking a Scout Walker, not the fact that Luke was in the throne room. The movie should be called Return Of The Wookiee.
I feel like you think the Endor battle and Luke’s redemption of Vader are part of the same thing, when they actually have completely different goals. Luke wasn’t trying to help the Rebels blow up the Death Star, that would just be a short term victory that doesn’t matter in the big scheme of things. Instead, he chose to use his father’s inner conflict to destroy Palpatine, guaranteeing victory once and for all.
Yeah I know, that’s what I’m saying. There was another version that I recall someone making before, like Nev said.
You’re probably thinking about Darthrush’s planned edit:
When was R2 his copilot?
Yeah, I don’t think he ever owned R2. R4 was probably just a standard issue Republic droid, so I don’t think the droid line from A New Hope is contradicted. Seems like something someone said online, and then people endlessly regurgitated it in the prequel hate train to the point where no one questioned it.
Nice work! The rescored moments really work, especially the instrumental Duel of the Fates. I would like if you improved Leia’s added “Come home” line though. Right now it sounds like one word.
Chalk me up as another respectful disagree-er, Mr. Maul. I feel like you’re intentionally twisting things to make your interpretation work.
Luke was warned multiple times to be wary of the emperor and his power. I think the movie makes it pretty obvious he goes in there knowing his only chance of beating the emperor is by turning Vader back so they can work together (just as Vader argued in ESB, but with both of them on the light side rather than the dark). His focus is on turning Vader because that’s both important to him personally AND crucial to his plan. And he takes the huge gamble at the end by throwing his weapon away. It’s his Hail Mary pass to get Vader to turn, and it works. Which also serves multiple purposes.
This is a nice interpretation (I’m not being sarcastic) but there is nothing in the movie that indicates this is what Luke is thinking. He states very plainly to Leia that his intentions are a) to turn himself in because he’s a liability and b) to bring Vader back to ‘the good side’. Everything he does bears this out. There’s nothing about distracting Palpatine or defeating the Sith.
To each their own. I personally thought it was very obvious from the movie. Luke is warned by Yoda that Palpatine is too powerful for him to defeat, which means he can’t just kill the guy. Instead, he chooses to use his hopes of redeeming his father as a way to help kill Palpatine. He has the same mindset as Vader in ESB, but uses it for good instead of evil.
He had just lost his temper and beaten his father in anger, and stepped very close to the edge of turning dark himself. Throwing away his weapon was also him checking himself in that moment and stepping back from the edge.
Had he lost his temper? Or had he acted in self-defence (or more specifically defence of Leia and the rebellion)? This is where the ROTJ version of the Dark Side becomes silly. In the prequels Anakin was tempted by fear and power, and made choices that he felt he couldn’t retreat from. In TROS Rey is tempted by the acceptance of power as an only means to save her friends. In ROTJ the Dark Side is merely getting angry. Luke had every right to kick Vader’s butt. He also had every right (and I’d say an obligation) to do everything he could to stop these monsters from killing more people. Just throwing his weapon aside and saying “ha ha you can’t make me angry” might be a nice piece of Zen, but it’s completely useless as a means to defeat evil and is of no value whatsoever to the thousands being slaughtered outside. Even if Luke was hoping Vader would pitch in (there’s nothing to indicate this is the case) he was taking an awful gamble with people’s lives just so he could get Vader a bedside conversion.
Once again, I feel like you’re thinking in terms of “real life”, rather than in terms of story and themes. The whole philosophy of the Jedi (at least before the EU turned them into badass lightsaber-wielding ninjas) is that you should always choose the nonviolent option. Instead of Force choking Vader and Palpatine, or helping the Rebels kill stormtroopers, he chooses to find a way to both definitively end Palpatine’s reign and bring his father back to the light in one fell swoop. That’s one of the saga’s best illustrations of the Jedi philosophy, which is much more in the style of mythic fantasy rather than macho action.
But as others have pointed out, there’s no way Luke would’ve succeeded or even survived a straight up face-to-face fight with Palps. And as I mentioned, Luke knew that. This was a game of chess, not dodgeball. It was far more a mental fight than physical. And Luke distracting the emperor from the battle outside and successfully appealing to the conflict within Vader was the master play. And he succeeded.
I do like this interpretation but again, I don’t think this is what the film is saying. Everything about ROTJ is kind of dumbed down - the Dark Side is reduced to mere anger, Palpatine’s seduction is absurd (why would Luke take Vader’s place? Even if Luke had killed Vader in anger, there was absolutely no reason to assume he’d then be pals with the Emperor), and the film entirely forgets that Vader was a bad guy. Other posters here keep saying it’s an indication of how much someone (ie Vader) can change - and I get that - but it ignores the injustice of Vader being given this chance even as he is complicit in a slaughter occurring right at that very moment. That’s why I keep giving the Ewok party mock-scenario - not because I actually believe Luke would have told his story, but because it shows how this whole thing would actually appear to someone who doesn’t have this emotional connection to Vader and/or this ludicrous need to never show anger lest it impede religious doctrine.
But that’s not what the movie is saying at all. Palpatine was the one who thought that showing anger once leads to eternal darkness, and he turned out to be wrong when Luke professed himself to be a Jedi and Vader turned back to the light. The core message of the movie (and the saga in general) is that everyone can change, that your mistakes don’t define your life. If you think the villain’s motivation is the main message of the movie, then you’re interpreting it wrong.
He wouldn’t tell wedge “I hid under the stairs and threw my weapon away”. He’d tell him about the intense cerebral fight he was in to outsmart the emperor and the emotional roller coaster he went thru to get his father (one of the most evil people in the galaxy at that point) to repent from his evil ways, rejoin the light, and defeat the evil before them. If he told wedge anything at all, b/c as others have stated, Luke had no reason to need to justify his actions to anyone by that point.
Yes, but if he did happen to to tell the stairs story he’d get some pretty quizzical looks, and with good reason. Because a normal person would hold Vader and the Emperor accountable. A normal person would go down fighting. This “yeah but he was my dad” thing coupled with the “as a Jedi I’m not allowed to get mad” thing would not sit well with normal people, especially people who had lost loved ones and lives to these monsters. That’s the point. If Jedi really are so constrained, then perhaps Jedi aren’t a great idea after all.
I can extend the Ewok party analogy to Rey and come out squeaky clean. Let’s say Rey’s partying on not-Yavin after the battle of Exigol. Hobbit-boy asks her what happened. She says “I fought Palpatine and by the grace of the Force I won”. Now Luke could say the same I guess. But then Hobbit-boy asks for details. Rey comes out shining. No ‘stairs’, no “I hesitated 'cos anger is bad”, no “I spared everyone and threw my weapon aside”. And more importantly Rey’s actions absolutely impacted the battle. At best Luke prevented Palpatine’s early escape form the exploding DS, but this was more or less by virtue of how things played out, not because of any plan or actions on Luke’s part. I know you say that Luke had a chess-like master plan but there’s nothing in the film that indicates this is true.
But Rey’s defeat of Palpatine is an entirely different situation. Palpatine was the only person there, and Ben only showed up for 2 minutes before being incapacitated. At that point, her only choice was violence. Also, the reason she was able to defeat Palpatine by her own was because the Jedi of the past gave their power to her. Without that, she would have died. Since Luke didn’t have that kind of power boost, his only hope was to redeem Vader.
I think his source is the JWfanpage but from what I understood the chants in the duel trailer were collected from the original soundtrack and then mixed with trailer music.
No one on there said that. They’re smart enough to know what is from Williams and what isn’t, and that trailer music is clearly too “epic” to be from Williams. I don’t think the guy in that video knows what he’s talking about, he’s just whining about something he clearly has little experience in.
EDIT: And the rest of the video doesn’t make any sense either. He praises music that is clearly tracked as being from Williams, and the condemns music that is clearly from Williams as being tracked. His definition of themes is completely arbitrary, and only exists so he can make this great score seem like the worst thing ever.
For example, he condemns the movie for putting the Star Wars theme in places where it doesn’t refer to Luke, and for putting the Imperial March in places where it doesn’t refer to Anakin, as if those themes are supposed to be for Luke and Anakin instead of Star Wars and the Empire. There’s a reason they’re not called “Luke’s Theme” or “Anakin’s March”.
https://youtu.be/L_8-dWSLDWI
Why the Music in The Rise of Skywalker Felt Empty by Sideways.He makes a lot of good points about the usage of certain themes in scenes where they don’t belong, and why it weakens the impact of the theme as a whole.
Yeah, that is a big problem. I bet a lot of thematic material was deleted or shuffled around in post, and as a result the music doesn’t quite feel right.
Interestingly enough, according to him a new recording of dual of the fates was supposed to play(the one from the trailer)in the scene where Palpatine is about to initiate the ritual"the time has come!".
There’s no way that’s true. The trailer music is way too epic to be from Williams, and it wouldn’t fit the scene at all.
I’ve said this before but a simple dialogue tweak would fix this. If Luke had said to Leia “I have to turn myself in, I’m endangering the mission. The Sith can feel my presence and know that we’re here. I’ll allow myself to be captured - Vader will take me to the Emperor himself and I will make sure he’s on the Death Star when the attack is launched”.
That would just make Luke a “captain obvious” to those in the audience who cannot make 1+1=2 on their own. On the other hand, it would ruin things in-universe. Luke probably knew and accepted that it was a suicide mission and that he would most likely die if the Death Star was blown off (whether or not Vader was redeemed). Why the hell would he tell such a thing to Leia and make her upset before such a crucial mission she was about to undertake? The way he handled it was very wise; he did not lie but he did not tell her that he is going off on a suicide mission either.
I’m not sure telling her that the guy who tortured her and stood by while her homeworld was obliterated was a) her father and b) strangely worthy of a crack at ‘the good side’, was much better than Luke taking on a heavy mission.
I must be the audience who can’t add 1+1. Luke’s only stated mission is the redemption of Vader. While insane violence is occurring outside, Luke’s primary focus is not losing his cool and avoiding a confrontation with Vader. When he finally kicks Vader’s butt - rather than follow through by doing anything proactive in terms of the war - Luke throws his weapon aside and declares himself a Jedi. People are being incinerated by a super-laser by order of the man standing before him and Luke chooses to disarm himself and declare his own enlightenment. How is any of this remotely helpful to the thousands of sentient beings suffering at the hands of the Imperial juggernaut? What in all this makes anyone think that Jedi Knights are a good idea, especially in a war situation?
Indeed you are the audience member that can’t add 1+1. I’m pretty sure Leia knew that Tarkin and The Emperor had more to do with what happened to her and her homeworld than Vader did (acting within their orders, not questioning them due to extensive brainwashing/basically being their slave). Remember how Vader criticized the Death Star at the meeting? If he was calling the shots, Tarkin and The Emperor wouldn’t have their plaything.
Also, for the “Luke could save so many lives thing,” what’s to say that killing The Emperor will stop the battle? The Star Destroyers, Death Star personnel, and Endor ground troops will still act under their initial orders to fight. Whatever Luke does, many will die in the fight. What he will do really doesn’t impact the battle outside and that’s fine.
Again, I maintain that you’re engaging in bad-faith criticism that really misses the point of the movie and the series, so I respectfully disagree with you.
You seem to be forgetting - as does this movie - who Darth Vader is. This is a guy whose first act in ANH was to lift a man up by his neck and crush his larynx. Vader wasn’t some misunderstood kindly old man. He was a brute and a killer. Sure, he may have questioned the value of the Death Star, but he was by means just an unwilling spectator. Look at the way he murdered everyone who disagreed with him in TESB, or had Han screaming in genuine agony on a torture rack purely to get Luke’s attention.
I know, that’s the entire point. The message of the movie is that anyone can change, even the most feared person in the galaxy. His previous atrocities only reinforce how shocking it is that he was able to return from darkness. It’s very much a hopeful conclusion, not the messed up thing you’re painting it as.
So if you were in Luke’s situation you wouldn’t try to get the Emperor in a headlock and order him to call off the battle? I know I would. So would Han or Chewie or Wedge or Leia or just about anyone who isn’t hung up on space-Buddhism.
Once again, that’s the whole point. The Jedi aren’t like other people in the galaxy, they’re more selfless and nonviolent. Any normal person would just kill Palpatine, but Luke held out hope in Vader until the end, and it paid off. This reinforces Yoda’s teachings in ESB: “A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack.” It would be against the spirit of the OT for Luke to just kill Palpatine.
It’s not about what Luke could have done so much as what he should have intended. Again I return to my Ewok party scenario. Let’s say Wedge asks “hey Luke, what happened up there man?”. Luke says “well, I was in the throne room with Vader and the Emperor when Palpatine started blowing our ships up”. Wedge would be like “damn, so you kicked his ass right? 'cos I would’ve kicked his ass man!”. Luke would have to admit “uh, well no, 'cos as a Jedi I’m not really allowed to get angry. I mean I did lose my temper and bring Vader to his knees at one point…”. So Wedge would be like “oh cool, so then you stopped the bad guys right?”. Luke - “uh, not exactly 'cos Vader’s my dad and again, violence is just not in keeping with where I need to be spiritually, so I threw my lightsaber away.” Wedge looks dumbfounded. “But” Luke says “on the plus side this does make me a Jedi so…every cloud…”
Yeah, Luke having to explain all this to his friends would be awkward. But I think they would understand that Luke’s philosophy requires him to be nonviolent whenever possible, and they would take comfort in the fact that Vader and Palpatine are dead, no matter how they died. I certainly don’t think he would be branded a war criminal for it.
Just to throw out some potential lines people could say:
“For Leia!”
“We’re with you, Poe/General Dameron!”
“[insert callsign], standing by.”Callsign ideas: Phoenix, Ace, Phantom, Wraith, Red, Blue, Gold, Green, Wolf, Wraith, various planet names (like Naboo Fleet, Bespin, Ryloth, etc.). You could either say Leader or Squadron, or a specific number. Maybe people could think of some clever easter eggs to throw in at this point.
I think the “all wings report in” moment would be great for the reveal shot, as we hear all these people raise their voices in solidarity. Then throughout the battle we could get various lines like, “For Skywalker!” I do think add voices to the battle would definitely help make that incomprehensible number of digital ships feel more like real, living people joining the fight.
PS: Dibs on “Rogue Leader”
I’m not sure if that has been mentioned here but did anyone else see @reylochriso on twitter’s fan edit?
For the fleet scene he asked a few voice over actors to record the dialogue from the audiobook and it worked out brilliantly. Unfortunately he cut Lando’s ‘there are more of us’ line, which I rather like, but other than that it was flawless.
I’d feel bad sharing footage without his permission, does anyone know if he’s on here?
I haven’t heard of that one, can you PM me the link? I don’t have a Twitter account.
EDIT: I sent you a PM. If you could get back to me soon that would be great.
I still maintain that Luke didn’t actually save the galaxy - a fact that renders his entire ‘new hope’ journey somewhat meaningless to me.
Luke was the only one who could get through to Vader. Vader was the only one who could destroy the Emperor.
Without Luke, there’s no hope. He saved the galaxy by redeeming his father. (or, by Returning the Jedi, if you will)I also hate the sister thing. Luke should have gone off alone in search of “The Other” at the end.
I’ve beat this drum several times in these forums, but the best way to explain my unease wth Luke’s actions is to boil it down to the following - what exactly did Luke tell everyone at the Ewok after-party?
If he’d said “I defeated the Emperor” that would’ve been a lie. He didn’t beat the Emperor. He surrendered and circumstances luckily prevailed in a way that led to Palpatine’s demise. That’s it. What Luke actually did was a) refuse to fight (after a brief and justifiable tantrum), b) spare the life of the second most evil guy in the galaxy because…well, he’s dad, and c) declare himself a Jedi and throw his weapon aside. All of this, by the way, while countless innocent beings were being slaughtered outside.
He probably said “I redeemed my evil father, Just like I told Leia I would & he killed the Emperor.”
All of those actions, or inactions, saved the galaxy. *shrugAnd he would’ve found himself hanging from the nearest redwood. How many rebels would’ve lost loved ones and/or had their lives ruined under the jackboots of Vader and his buddies? How thrilled would such folk be to hear that, while Palpatine was killing people by the hundreds with his new weapon, Luke was hiding under a staircase because he didn’t want to lose his temper and risk Vader not going to Jedi Heaven?
Nor can I see why anyone would even consider the possibility of a new Jedi Order based on these actions.
That’s EU anyway. Nowhere in the film does Luke even hint towards restarting anything.
[EDIT- I guess the ST says that Luke went on to do whatever, but that’s not in this film]Yoda says “pass on what you have learned”. The implication is that Luke will go on teach younglings how to hide under staircases in order to spare the bad guys.
Okay, now it just seems like you’re deliberately misinterpreting the movie. The message the movie was trying to get across was that everyone can change, not that you should hide under a staircase or whatever you said. And the whole “war criminal” thing doesn’t apply, because Star Wars shouldn’t be taken that seriously. It’s a mythic fantasy, not a true story.
I think the easiest solution is to combine planets. Tatooine=Jakku=Pasaana Naboo=Takodana=Ajan Kloss Redesigning the planets would take a lot more work.
I still don’t think this is a good approach. Space is big, I don’t want to shrink the universe to just 7 planets. And it would be weird for the Rebels to establish a base on a planet that’s about the opposite of “hidden”.
Maybe after the opening crawl, you could add a shot of the stars “jumping to light speed” in that stretched out way, and then cut to the theatrical shot of the Falcon in hyperspace. That’s what one TLJ editor did for a version of that movie where Rey finding Luke was the opening scene, and it worked really well.
I was wondering, if it were as powerful whether it would be good to consider.
He already said it’s not as powerful, and I agree with him. You can hear the alternate version here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACVE5nYGJxI&t=11
I understand why JJ chose to replace it with Burning Homestead in editing, and I think Burning Homestead is a good choice for the force ghost scene as well.
Should go in the preservation setion, not the fanedits section.
No, I think it belongs here. It has much more relevance for fan edits.
Sounds interesting. But then again, this isn’t the place for GOOD ideas.
I know. I wasn’t saying the idea as a whole was bad, just the random insertion of Immigrant Song.
I remember randomly putting Immigrant Song in the middle of my tragic 7-1 3.5hr Vader edit. It comes out of nowhere. Not sure why I did it.
Wait, what do you mean by 7-1?
I saw his edit. It was a mashup of all 6 main saga movies, plus Rogue One, focused on Anakin’s arc. It intercut between the prequels and the OT in a non linear style. But he just randomly put Immigrant Song in the scene where Anakin and Obi-Wan escape Grievous. Not sure why he did it either.
Think you might be in the wrong thread. This would fit better in Script Writing and Rewriting.