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Mocata said:

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I don’t think referencing the primary subject of this board is a “crusade”. Or how anything else I say on here is anti-Disney to be honest. Chill out.

But almost everything you say about Disney is negative. Even when it isn’t a bad thing at all, like Temuera Morrison playing Boba Fett. You said that it proves Disney is trying to force the SE’s down our throats, when they just cast him because that’s how Boba canonically looks like. That’s what I meant by “assuming the worst”.

JakeRyan17 said:

Everyone forgets how much Empire Strikes Back was hated when it came out for that twist we all find iconic now. They complained it went against everything we knew in Star Wars… similar to how people reacted to the Last Jedi.

Is that true? I know people thought Vader was lying at first, but did they really think it was against Star Wars? There had only been one Star Wars movie at that point, so I doubt it.

As for new characters that were introduced in Rise of Skywalker, the two most prominent were both added to the script for the same reason: to shout “No homo”. Zorri doesn’t serve the plot, and is only there to be a romantic interest from Poe’s past. Jannah is meant to be a romantic interest to replace Rey (for the sake of Reylo shippers) and Rose. And there was no way we could allow Poe and Finn to have a romantic connection despite their chemistry, fans, and even actors’ desire… but it’s good to know there’s a line JJ won’t cross for fan service.

I agree with Zorii, which is why I’m planning to either remove or drastically reduce her role in my TROS edit. But was there anything vaguely romantic with Finn and Jannah? I thought their connection was more about both of them being former stormtroopers, so they’re like siblings in a sense. I didn’t get any romantic vibes.

Better yet, have the Eopie fart when Kylo dies. It’s the only way to tie the saga together.

DominicCobb said:

World building is overrated. It’s one of the many things that killed TROS.

I actually felt like there wasn’t enough world building. There was way too much exposition, but exposition and world building aren’t the same thing. World building fleshes out the movie’s universe, giving it the proper context. Exposition is an inconvenience, something the movie just needs to get out of the way.

In my opinion, a proper example of world building would be explaining the whole thing with Palpatine’s return. “Secrets only the Sith knew” isn’t a sufficient explanation. We need to know the broad strokes of how he returned, and why he can’t return again. Otherwise, it just feels like Palpatine can come back any time he wants.

Why are you saying it sucks? It’s great!

Of course it would be good to mess with it a bit, but for now it sounds good enough.

Interesting ideas, but is some of this stuff even possible? Not sure how you’d do things like have Ben be a Force ghost when he talks to Han, or change Palpatine to be a disembodied spirit. It just doesn’t seem feasible.

I don’t hate this movie nearly as much as most people on here, but I agree that most of the fault lies with Abrams and Terrio. There’s nothing in TFA or TLJ that would prevent the third installment from being good. But instead of sticking to their vision, Abrams and Terrio decided to try and please everyone, which has never worked once in the entire history of entertainment.

Yeah, I heard that rumor too. Cobb Vanth isn’t a very well-established character in the Star Wars universe, but I think they’ll be able to make him interesting in this show.

With several characters that are at least somewhat connected to the Mandalorians rumored to be in the show, I think season 2 is going to dive a lot deeper into Mandalorian history and culture. I’m personally looking forward to it.

Mocata said:

Temuera Morrison has (supposedly) been cast as Boba Fett in S2. Which means they want that 2004 ESB dub of Boba Fett to pervade into other media.

Why is that the assumption? He’s just being cast because canonically, that’s what he looks like. It’s not part of some nefarious plot to make people watch the Special Editions. I feel like your constant anti-Disney crusade makes you assume the worst sometimes.

Don’t let the internet hate machine get to your head. Semi-comedic YouTube rants are a path to the dark side!

In all seriousness though, I would really like to see an extended cut. The Reddit plot leaks made it seem like a much better movie than what we ended up getting.

Are we still determined to keep the “silenced all communication” thing from Trevorrow’s script? I feel like it doesn’t have much relevance here, and it’s contradicted by Lando’s message reaching the entire galaxy.

exitzero said:

EvantheKidDS said:

Where in the galaxy is the original source to this cover art?

https://www.bing.com/images/blob?bcid=T.Tth2cgTFIBDQ

The artist is MikeLuv80.

AKA ForceGhostRecon, and a bunch of other sock accounts.

NFBisms said:

• The changes to Anakin’s character make him a more boring character than his film counterpart

Then why are you changing Anakin’s film character to be more in line with the TV show?

DominicCobb said:

The worst one is probably the hardest one to change (“a thousand generations live in you now”).

Yeah, he looks like the big Lebowski in that shot. It might be good to cut that line anyway, since it contradicts the Jedi ghosts showing up in the final battle.

BedeHistory731 said:

Making Ajan Kloss Naboo is much easier

Is it though? It seems like it would be even harder to make convincing. You can’t just namedrop Naboo in the opening crawl and expect it to be seamless.

I’m personally not a big fan of the idea anyway. Isn’t the Rebel base supposed to be hidden?

Interesting idea. I assume Luke survives in your version of TLJ then?

CamSMurph said:

How long does this edit run for?

1 hour 40 minutes. A lot of stuff has been cut.

thebluefrog said:

idir_hh said:

They probably made two different films with all the reshoots they did.

Well, if you look at Kylo’s death closely, it seems to have been shot in reverse AND he says something before he lays down/gets up.

I suspect Kylo lived in at least one or two shoots.

That was debunked long ago. Scenes of people collapsing like that are often filmed backwards to prevent the actor being injured. The whole “Ben lives in an alternate ending” conspiracy theory was just made up by desperate Reylos after the movie’s release.

idir_hh said:

I hope you’re right but it doesn’t explain Disney clamping down on everything to do with deleted scenes.

JJ has never been a fan of deleted scenes, or BTS material in general. It’s just part of his on-the-fly filmmaking style that makes that sort of stuff confusing. I highly doubt some mythical “original cut” that fixes all the problems exists, there’s literally no evidence to support it.

idir_hh said:

They probably made two different films with all the reshoots they did.

I wouldn’t go so far. There were a few reshoots, and some serious ADHD editing, but people crying bloody murder over some imaginary reshoot scandal are setting themselves up for disappointment.

Could I also get a PM?

I think it’s supposed to show that the suns are rising instead of setting, signifying a new era. But since so much footage was cut in the ADHD editing process, that implication was lost on almost everyone.

Oh god, it’s one of those people.

omnimuffin said:

Hal 9000 said:

Just noticed that, like TFA:R, TROS features a planet destruction directly following Kylo having a conversation with Han and resolving himself in a direction. Just this time it doesn’t make us feel anything.

The part of my theater experience when I could have been heard pleading, “Oh, for God’s sake!”

It doesn’t make YOU feel anything, lol.

Yeah, I felt a lot of things during that Han scene.

Blowing up Kijimi… not so much.

The Aluminum Falcon said:

Wow, some of these changes sound borderline impossible! Congrats, DonKamillo, will PM you.

Very glad to see a Rise of Skywalker edit already out there so fast.

I’ll PM you instead, DonKamillo doesn’t check this website very often.