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Jedi122 said:

I hope you don’t mind this one other request. I know these are once again examples of “Early Installment Weirdness,” since they couldn’t decide what terms to use yet, but since you were able to make Luke say “Steady, Rogue 3” instead of “Rogue 2” in TESB:R, do you think you could also make it so that Luke doesn’t call the R5 Astromech droid that blew up an “R2 Unit,” or use the term “robots” later on?

I personally like the idea of “fixing” those types of things. I even tried the “robots” one you mentioned using voice cloning:
https://youtube.com/shorts/68REbAcUpBo?si=ExTGJgB0Cy28iWOA

I don’t know if this particular fix is quite up to snuff for Adywan, which I totally understand.
I mean, with my example, the voice is trained on Luke from ESB and ROTJ. Not ANH. So it doesn’t sound right.
I suppose you could do that with ALL his dialogue for consistency 😉

Mrebo said:

Hi, SSWR, I’d watched your YT videos and I agree with your thoughts on the narrative for Anakin visiting Tatooine. I’ve some ideas for the Lars homestead scene you might consider.

As Anakin and Padme walk away from the ship, dub in the (from later) line “These are good people, Padme, you’ll be safe.”

Dub [Not-3PO] saying, “It is good to see you again Master Skywalker [& other pleasantries].” (If you want to twist the knife, insert Padme’s line from Naboo, “Anakin’s not a Jedi…he’s still a Padawan learner.” JK) Possibly insert Padme’s line “I’m Padme.” Then Anakin asks to see his mother and Not-3PO directs them to follow.

Not-3PO presents the guests. Not-3PO or dubbed Owen acknowledges the step-brother relationship. I like Padme’s “I’m Padme” line originally in this place but not sure how to keep it especially with the cuts to follow.

Cut to Owen introducing Beru and then to Anakin asking, “is my mother here?”

Cliegg says, “no, she’s not,” then Anakin reaction shot, then Cliegg says come inside. Either add transition here or keep the ensuing Anakin’s dissapointes/sad reaction shot.

I think the scene needs different music to better serve the mood of Anakin’s growing anxiety/despair. Maybe different music would go toward making a brisker pace feel more purposeful as well.

Additionally, I’d want to find a way, in the next scene, to get rid of Padme only taking her cloak off when the camera pans over to her and then awkwardly pulling her chair in. It’s the little things that grate when you starting thinking about the edits.

Thanks for the feedback and ideas, Mrebo!

I actually haven’t come back to playing around with that scene since I originally posted that clip. I like some of the ideas you’ve presented here and I think they could easily work in another fan edit!
Even though I began changing my mind on making Anakin and Owen actual siblings, I’m leaning once again in that direction. The viewer could simply put together that since the events of ROTS Owen would simply take the last name ‘Lars’ to hide from anyone coming to look for any of Anakin’s relatives.
But using “Not3PO” as a possible exposition droid might give me a bit more to work with! Thanks!

And yeah, I’d prefer to have Padme already sitting down with everyone else but I don’t have the abilities to make that happen. 😕

Since I 'm here, I might as well give a link or two…

Here I’ve re-edited the scene with R2 receiving Obi-Wan’s message:
https://youtu.be/cF_8TtsRcHc

And here I’ve attempted using Pika Labs to generate a new shot of Padme:
https://youtu.be/dNIhMnbPtdE

I don’t have anything worth adding to the ideas pool but can I just say:
I love this conversation and how you guys are approaching all of this.
❤

Fullmetaled said:

Adobe firefly sounds like it’s a game changer for editing videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPJNPrshhTo

Yeah, I’ve found a few different resources that provide similar effects…some of these are coming in quite handy!

Bingowings said:

Another aspect of the film that bugged me since watching it is the title. The Clones don’t attack they use military force to rescue the Jedi so it’s more a retaliation than an attack.

Well, you’re not wrong lol. That being said, I’ll be keeping the title as is. 😁

Man, there is a clip I’m wanting to show all of you. It involves a lot of intercutting scenes, new sound fx/music, new voice work, roto work…it’s got a lot going on and I’m quite please with how it’s looking.
But I can’t share it yet.

Just wanted to tease all of you a bit.😉

In the meantime, to get all of you in the mood for Christmas:

https://youtu.be/TAAevKeDM-w

Yeah what if they cover the prequels and give us some never-before-seen deleted footage? Here’s hoping!

Could I also get a link please?

Here’s the best deepfake I’ve made yet!

https://youtu.be/_ZlIpAIUUyk

Also, I’m quite pleased with how Yoda now looks in this shot:

https://youtu.be/C4McnKcM_6w

Good stuff! I look forward to more!

“Sorry, we couldn’t find that page
Make sure you’ve typed the URL correctly, or try searching Vimeo. You could also watch one of the videos below instead.”

Anakin Starkiller said:

Has anyone considered addressing Palpatine by name in the OT? It would spoil the twist of the PT for first time viewers, assuming they watch the movies in production order as they should, but it would help tie the films together more cohesively in a subtle way.

Gotcha covered:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLXIK3_TXKE

I didn’t think the first version you posted was bad…but NOW…sooo GOOD!

Pagan Editor said:

Maybe you could add a sound for the skin morphing, like playing with the pitch of leather getting wrinkled. I looked up the scenes of Indy on youtube and it sounded like something like that was going on.

I’ll look into that! Thanks!

On the subject of changing pitch, I was wondering if you could do it with Yoda’s voice. I think his voice seems to sound brighter than in the OT, but that doesn’t make much sense when you’re aging ten times slower than a human being.

Yeah, I don’t know what to do about his voice. Oz’s performance changed drastically once he started doing soley voiceover work for the CGI Yoda.

Also, I don’t know if I like having Duel of Fates playing when Anakin uses the speeder bike. I thought that you could maybe insert this version of Anakin’s theme starting at 1.37: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUC7MgkOgKA

I’m with you on removing Dual of the Fates. It’s already gone and replaced with something I quite like! Although, I’m not ready to show it yet…

Pagan Editor said:

It’s odd to carefully study PT scenes. There was one video from you with the gang in the arena where the original footage had this awful effect on Sam Jackson head. I guess it was the same kind of blending of two shots as you’ve shown with Jake Lloyd.

Yeah, I think it’s when Sam simply turns his head to screen left and it looks like it’s been reverse and also maybe slowed down? It’s odd…but it goes by pretty quickly too.

That scene of Palps watching the troops also has strange things going on. The blue senate guy has his mouth open, like he’s going “Wow!” like a kid. And behind Bail is a guy of the same species as the one in the cantina who doesn’t like Luke. Knowing George, it must be the same guy. An incredibly succesful politican who ended up with the death sentence in 12 star systems. McCluncky!

😆 I guess I hadn’t looked too closely at Ole Bluey!

But I’m liking the changes! I’m curious about the new music for Sheev looking at the clones. One thing that I’ve been thinking about regarding Zam’s changer-thing. I was thinking that you could perhaps get rid of it all, except for her death, and you recolor her skin grey as she morphs. The idea is that she gets deformed by the dart in way that looks a bit like the Nazis dying in Raiders of the Lost Ark and the Last Crusade.

The music I inserted was temporary (John Williams - Black Sunday OST). I don’t have the ending music figured out yet cuz I haven’t nailed down the edit yet…cuz there are a few FX shots I don’t know how to pull off convincingly yet!😆

About Zam: Yeah that was what I was going for…but maybe doing something additional to the face (like you suggested) would be possible. Hmmm…

Thanks for the feedback!

Great to hear from you, Adywan! Your edit is coming along nicely!

How did you pull off the Vader and Kenobi shot? Is that a shot from elsewhere in the film that you scaled down and inserted there (roto-ing around the troopers, of course)?

Here’s my attempt at some genuine color correction:
https://youtu.be/wXKnRe9x3YY?si=NZZTFA03z1JIB8Zp

This is a shot of Anakin I’ve altered and repurposed
https://youtu.be/SPWXv_9rGQg?si=crd3qw9OPTqwVXUj

I just hit 1000 subscribers yesterday! To celebrate, I made the first teaser trailer. Feel free to join me tonight to watch together:

https://youtu.be/h0Cu11y60-A?si=5t81MHg7eZgQBaG9

Here’s my edit of the Jedi being surrounded in the area scene:
https://youtu.be/vqsLDL42RPc

Here’s a comparison to the original:
https://youtu.be/8hL_LP9_Gqc

And here’s my original video with me going into some of the “why” behind some of the changes:
https://youtu.be/M804B7y8ODU

I’m glad you guys are digging it!
So about that rack focus shot…

I very much appreciate what snooker did for me with that shot here:
https://streamable.com/engvb5

Although, it’s been a few years since that shot was completed and I wanted to push it closer to what we see in ANH…with a bit of a lens distortion and everything:

https://youtu.be/yZJfdDDkop8

THEN I realized I should maybe sort of, ya know, LOOK at a rack focus shot from the OT 😆 and I noticed the image stretches vertically…so I did a bit more work on it and got it even CLOSER to what I wanted:

https://streamable.com/nchc1j

Hello fellow fan editors!

A very basic scene of Obi-Wan trying to contact Anakin but I’ve reworked it quite a bit.

-CLIP:
https://youtu.be/2x40-QWMAfU

deets…
-SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON:
https://youtu.be/zmXzZvKt-gg

in case you’re curious…
-EARLIER TEST:
https://youtu.be/DZnxu_QrUT4

Hal 9000 said:

Shave off a syllable when Han and Luke are found on Hoth so he says, “Ice of you guys to drop by!”

Dew it!

Mocata said:

Mando is getting a 4k steelbook release so I wonder if they suddenly need cash. And if Australians will have to import.

Waa? Cool!
Yeah, I just looked it up…just seasons 1 & 2.

snooker said:

Fullmetaled said:

Can this make color falloff with the lightsabers work on all scenes of the original 6 films? https://youtu.be/CYN2alBR3P8

Messed around with a real quick and dirty test of this the other day actually. It actually looks reasonably fine!
https://streamable.com/te4mt3

Dang that looks good, snooker!

Pagan Editor said:

Bingowings said:

Pagan Editor said:
"… Have you considered cutting something in the shot of Mace defending Dooku? I just feel like he’s patronizing towards Padme. I would probably cut the last line.
"

Yes, he is Windusplaining

Macesplaining works too 😉

I think it’s been suggested previously on the PT Redux thread that the duel could be radically recut so that Obi-Wan faces Dooku alone. Then, Anakin arrives and runs or jumps toward Duke Dooku as he’s about to kill Kenobi. Then you get rid of that whole “go slowly on the left”.

Yes, that’s my plan (hate that “go in slowly on the left” line). I think the issue has always been HOW to get the 2 Jedi coming in at different times? Because they both come in from the same republic gunship thingy. Well, I think I’ve found something that might work…it’ll just require more fx work. By-the-way, anyone interested in helping with fx work? I’m still learning in this arena but I know I’ll only get so good.

I would want to get rid of Yoda with the lightsaber, maybe even dueling with the Force, because I just think Kenobi and Anakin look weak just lying there, but then you might not have a lot of footage left. I think I’ve actually seen a clip of someone on this forum making it look Dooku throws a cylinder toward Anakin and used the shot of Anakin getting hit by Force lightning and placing the cylinder over the lightning.

Yes I’ve seen the cylinder being thrown at Anakin and that works pretty well. In fact, there was an earlier version of this done by Trooperman in his Shroud of the Darkside edit. I-…well…hmm…I hate to give too much away…but let’s just say I’ve got some plans!

If you want to keep Yoda and Dooku throwing things, perhaps you could have them thrash talking eachother, and then Dooku says something like “It is obvious that this contest can only be decided by our skills with the Force”. And then they start to throw things.

Yeah, I think most fans would agree that the force dueling is the best part of that confrontation.
I’ve actually tried switching that particular line around like you’ve suggested. I have something that almost works…I might post it someday.

Perhaps impossible, but I’ve seen something called wav2lip where you could lipsync new lines. If memory serves me right, the resolution is low, but you can improve it with deepfakes.

Hmm…I didn’t know you could improve it with, say, DeepFaceLabs. Anyone here on the forums gotten any good with DeepFaceLabs? First, my computer can’t really handle it well. Second, when I’ve attempted it in the past, I didn’t know how to refine it for getting a better result. Even with the tutorials out there, they don’t explain it well enough (for me) to get better results.

Thanks for chatting and sharing ideas, Pagan Editor!

Pagan Editor said:

Seeing a new clip from you SSWR brings warm feelings to my heart. 😄

Have you considered cutting something in the shot of Mace defending Dooku? I just feel like he’s patronizing towards Padme. I would probably cut the last line, “It’s not in his character”. The longer that shot keeps going, the more smiling and patronizing he seems. Also, I think it makes him and the Jedi look dumb since we find out that Dooku indeed is involved.

But good stuff!

This is a very interesting idea. That particular exchange was always awkward, wasn’t it? I had a good think on it and tested it out. I wasn’t sure because, at first, I thought that line would be necessary. But I was wrong! It works very well without it and the point still comes across. Thanks for the idea!

Bingowings said:

One bit that’s probably impossible to do anything about but has bugged me all these years. The film makes out sword fighting and acrobatics are more impressive than throwing the ceiling at people and making electricity spark out of your finger tips (something the Palpatine should be the only user really but I digress). For me it makes more sense if Yoda and Dooku use sabers first magic next. It leads into Dooku dropping a large pipe on Kenobi and Skywalker if they are at that point chucking the architecture at each other.

I 100% agree!
OK, well, actually…98% agree?
I’m planning on cutting Yoda out. This will be about Dooku/Anakin. I’m finding some interesting ways of adding on to that fight while hopefully taking out the um…maclunky parts. 😆

Bingowings said:

Pagan Editor said:
"… Have you considered cutting something in the shot of Mace defending Dooku? I just feel like he’s patronizing towards Padme. I would probably cut the last line.
"

Yes, he is Windusplaining

😆

For those who haven’t seen it, I posted my edit of the Palpatine Office scene:
https://youtu.be/Gx4RcNbKKbY

Comparison video:
https://youtu.be/TCGi5LBr06Q

Here’s my original video on it with me explaining some of my decisions:
https://youtu.be/P9gKcQgaj_4

Spartacus01 said:

RogueLeader said:

I don’t remember if it was someone here or on YouTube, but someone achieved this exact idea before, so it is definitely doable without voice Ai or anything.

EDIT: I did find a version of this idea. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GvpT_7BMAc

The scene is very good, but unfortunately the music is not the same, so I don’t think this scene could be used in an actual edit. We would need to change the whole score.

Huh? Of course it could be used in an edit.
Also, changing the score is what fan edits do best! - well, maybe not BEST…but they do it. 😛

Pagan Editor said:

I’m a big fan of the idea of inserting Anakin’s theme into II and III since I think it’s one of the best pieces of the trilogy. It feels like Lucas and Williams no longer wanted to use it, which is a shame, because the theme makes Anakin more likeable.

Completely agree! I can think of only one time it was used in AOTC and it’s kinda mixed quietly into the background.

I just had a few ideas that I wanted to share:
First, I’ve been wondering if you could make CGI look more real by sharpening it. I’m mostly thinking about characters, with rotobrush/magic mask (I think I’ve seen that you’re using Resolve). There’s a tool called Mid/Detail in Resolve that I’ve seen used to increase/decrease detail in human faces. Here’s a link to someone who seems to know what he’s doing with some advanced sharpening techniques: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDw2znXECcg&list=LL&index=64

I do apply a bit of sharpening and sometimes mess around with the mid/detail…usually it can’t be used very much. But I’ll take a look at the link! Thanks! Unfortunately, my pc can’t handle a lot of the ai stuff in resolve very well. (like magic mask and relight).

BrotherOfSasquatch said:

Pagan Editor said:

Finally, here’s a review for something called Dehancer that makes digital footage look like film. But I didn’t realize at first that it costs $449. You could almost buy your ship for that! 😉
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztmd8vbO1a4

Oh yeah, Dehancer is pretty cool. But it is crazy expensive. I know there’s other software out there that does the same sort of thing with differing prices (FilmConvert for $125, Color.io for $129, etc.) Of course, probably the most cheapest options out there is to just do your own sort of film emulation with cheaper plug-ins/what you already have. However, doing so is obviously more difficult and more time consuming in regards to research and all that plus the results might vary a lot depending on how you do it (which might honestly be kind of a good thing as well since it means it gives you a better senes of control with how you want the final product to look).

Yeah it’s a bit too pricey for me. I would need to spend money on a better pc before I look into something like that. I’m surprised I’ve learned more about color correction and film emulation as I have. Granted, I’m nowhere near a pro, but I’m pleased with how I’ve been able to implement some of the things I’ve learned free on YouTube (without paying for a class!).