SomethingStarWarsRelated

Hal 9000 said:

Shave off a syllable when Han and Luke are found on Hoth so he says, “Ice of you guys to drop by!”

Dew it!

Mocata said:

Mando is getting a 4k steelbook release so I wonder if they suddenly need cash. And if Australians will have to import.

Waa? Cool!
Yeah, I just looked it up…just seasons 1 & 2.

snooker said:

Fullmetaled said:

Can this make color falloff with the lightsabers work on all scenes of the original 6 films? https://youtu.be/CYN2alBR3P8

Messed around with a real quick and dirty test of this the other day actually. It actually looks reasonably fine!
https://streamable.com/te4mt3

Dang that looks good, snooker!

Pagan Editor said:

Bingowings said:

Pagan Editor said:
"… Have you considered cutting something in the shot of Mace defending Dooku? I just feel like he’s patronizing towards Padme. I would probably cut the last line.
"

Yes, he is Windusplaining

Macesplaining works too 😉

I think it’s been suggested previously on the PT Redux thread that the duel could be radically recut so that Obi-Wan faces Dooku alone. Then, Anakin arrives and runs or jumps toward Duke Dooku as he’s about to kill Kenobi. Then you get rid of that whole “go slowly on the left”.

Yes, that’s my plan (hate that “go in slowly on the left” line). I think the issue has always been HOW to get the 2 Jedi coming in at different times? Because they both come in from the same republic gunship thingy. Well, I think I’ve found something that might work…it’ll just require more fx work. By-the-way, anyone interested in helping with fx work? I’m still learning in this arena but I know I’ll only get so good.

I would want to get rid of Yoda with the lightsaber, maybe even dueling with the Force, because I just think Kenobi and Anakin look weak just lying there, but then you might not have a lot of footage left. I think I’ve actually seen a clip of someone on this forum making it look Dooku throws a cylinder toward Anakin and used the shot of Anakin getting hit by Force lightning and placing the cylinder over the lightning.

Yes I’ve seen the cylinder being thrown at Anakin and that works pretty well. In fact, there was an earlier version of this done by Trooperman in his Shroud of the Darkside edit. I-…well…hmm…I hate to give too much away…but let’s just say I’ve got some plans!

If you want to keep Yoda and Dooku throwing things, perhaps you could have them thrash talking eachother, and then Dooku says something like “It is obvious that this contest can only be decided by our skills with the Force”. And then they start to throw things.

Yeah, I think most fans would agree that the force dueling is the best part of that confrontation.
I’ve actually tried switching that particular line around like you’ve suggested. I have something that almost works…I might post it someday.

Perhaps impossible, but I’ve seen something called wav2lip where you could lipsync new lines. If memory serves me right, the resolution is low, but you can improve it with deepfakes.

Hmm…I didn’t know you could improve it with, say, DeepFaceLabs. Anyone here on the forums gotten any good with DeepFaceLabs? First, my computer can’t really handle it well. Second, when I’ve attempted it in the past, I didn’t know how to refine it for getting a better result. Even with the tutorials out there, they don’t explain it well enough (for me) to get better results.

Thanks for chatting and sharing ideas, Pagan Editor!

Pagan Editor said:

Seeing a new clip from you SSWR brings warm feelings to my heart. 😄

Have you considered cutting something in the shot of Mace defending Dooku? I just feel like he’s patronizing towards Padme. I would probably cut the last line, “It’s not in his character”. The longer that shot keeps going, the more smiling and patronizing he seems. Also, I think it makes him and the Jedi look dumb since we find out that Dooku indeed is involved.

But good stuff!

This is a very interesting idea. That particular exchange was always awkward, wasn’t it? I had a good think on it and tested it out. I wasn’t sure because, at first, I thought that line would be necessary. But I was wrong! It works very well without it and the point still comes across. Thanks for the idea!

Bingowings said:

One bit that’s probably impossible to do anything about but has bugged me all these years. The film makes out sword fighting and acrobatics are more impressive than throwing the ceiling at people and making electricity spark out of your finger tips (something the Palpatine should be the only user really but I digress). For me it makes more sense if Yoda and Dooku use sabers first magic next. It leads into Dooku dropping a large pipe on Kenobi and Skywalker if they are at that point chucking the architecture at each other.

I 100% agree!
OK, well, actually…98% agree?
I’m planning on cutting Yoda out. This will be about Dooku/Anakin. I’m finding some interesting ways of adding on to that fight while hopefully taking out the um…maclunky parts. 😆

Bingowings said:

Pagan Editor said:
"… Have you considered cutting something in the shot of Mace defending Dooku? I just feel like he’s patronizing towards Padme. I would probably cut the last line.
"

Yes, he is Windusplaining

😆

For those who haven’t seen it, I posted my edit of the Palpatine Office scene:
https://youtu.be/Gx4RcNbKKbY

Comparison video:
https://youtu.be/TCGi5LBr06Q

Here’s my original video on it with me explaining some of my decisions:
https://youtu.be/P9gKcQgaj_4

Spartacus01 said:

RogueLeader said:

I don’t remember if it was someone here or on YouTube, but someone achieved this exact idea before, so it is definitely doable without voice Ai or anything.

EDIT: I did find a version of this idea. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GvpT_7BMAc

The scene is very good, but unfortunately the music is not the same, so I don’t think this scene could be used in an actual edit. We would need to change the whole score.

Huh? Of course it could be used in an edit.
Also, changing the score is what fan edits do best! - well, maybe not BEST…but they do it. 😛

Pagan Editor said:

I’m a big fan of the idea of inserting Anakin’s theme into II and III since I think it’s one of the best pieces of the trilogy. It feels like Lucas and Williams no longer wanted to use it, which is a shame, because the theme makes Anakin more likeable.

Completely agree! I can think of only one time it was used in AOTC and it’s kinda mixed quietly into the background.

I just had a few ideas that I wanted to share:
First, I’ve been wondering if you could make CGI look more real by sharpening it. I’m mostly thinking about characters, with rotobrush/magic mask (I think I’ve seen that you’re using Resolve). There’s a tool called Mid/Detail in Resolve that I’ve seen used to increase/decrease detail in human faces. Here’s a link to someone who seems to know what he’s doing with some advanced sharpening techniques: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDw2znXECcg&list=LL&index=64

I do apply a bit of sharpening and sometimes mess around with the mid/detail…usually it can’t be used very much. But I’ll take a look at the link! Thanks! Unfortunately, my pc can’t handle a lot of the ai stuff in resolve very well. (like magic mask and relight).

BrotherOfSasquatch said:

Pagan Editor said:

Finally, here’s a review for something called Dehancer that makes digital footage look like film. But I didn’t realize at first that it costs $449. You could almost buy your ship for that! 😉
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztmd8vbO1a4

Oh yeah, Dehancer is pretty cool. But it is crazy expensive. I know there’s other software out there that does the same sort of thing with differing prices (FilmConvert for $125, Color.io for $129, etc.) Of course, probably the most cheapest options out there is to just do your own sort of film emulation with cheaper plug-ins/what you already have. However, doing so is obviously more difficult and more time consuming in regards to research and all that plus the results might vary a lot depending on how you do it (which might honestly be kind of a good thing as well since it means it gives you a better senes of control with how you want the final product to look).

Yeah it’s a bit too pricey for me. I would need to spend money on a better pc before I look into something like that. I’m surprised I’ve learned more about color correction and film emulation as I have. Granted, I’m nowhere near a pro, but I’m pleased with how I’ve been able to implement some of the things I’ve learned free on YouTube (without paying for a class!).

Some really cool stuff here! Any updates?

Peter Pan said:

On a different note, I remember that someone added a hologram of some mystical stone wall to Palpatine’s offices in AOTC, but I can’t find it anymore. I was thinking about extending the scene in question.

Hmmm…I’d like to see that!

It’s looking really good! I’m certainly interested in seeing what you got for AOTC!

G&G-Fan said:

Through deepfaking and inserts, have a scene showing Anakin looking through ancient Sith texts and holocrons to find out if the Sith ever actually cheated death.

Maybe try to use footage of a Sith wayfinder as a Sith holocron, since those have never been shown in live action?

I like that idea!

Fullmetaled said:

The prequels CGI really needs an upgrade badly It’s so dated. It’s not even funny I mean, come on it looks like a video game. It doesn’t even look like it’s a movie anymore. It deserves better. As much as people hate the prequel’s I think the prequels deserve better with the CGI. So at least it matches up with the rest of the prequel era Star Wars. Like Alderaan etc. The fakeness of CGI has gone away so much that the prequel‘s really do deserve a coat of paint. It’s still fake looking, but so little bit that it’s more immersive it feels like it could be a real Planet etc., even though you obviously can tell it’s not. If that makes any sense.

I hear you…if I knew how, I’d redo basically every SFX shot in AOTC.

Oh…by-the-way, here’s another shot at a “deepfake” dooku:
https://youtu.be/2xIKVznPvLs

BrotherOfSasquatch said:

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

Thank you, BrotherOfSasquatch. I appreciate the feedback!
I’ve had some trouble finding free stock footage for elements that will work (not interested in paying for anything right now).
So, actually, if anyone knows of a website or a certain youtube channel that has decent free stock footage, let me know! 😁

I could probably help you out with this. I’ve got a pretty extensive backlog of stock footage/assets that I’ve saved up for a rainy day (no pun intended). Just let me know what sort of stuff you need and I could look through my archives and send you a link with all of it.

Well, that’s very kind! I’ll certainly take you up on that offer!😃

Bingowings said:

NeverarGreat said:

Anakin is written as a creep in AOTC, but that wasn’t driven home so completely until I watched this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ww3NDNC4eA

It’s an interpretation of the character which might actually work in isolation and could be fascinating. However, it is this aspect of the prequels, above anything else, that makes them fundamentally incompatible with the spirit of the OT. Luke’s journey is predicated on the belief that his father was basically a good man, but if Anakin is really just a predatory creep then his redemption rings hollow. But take away Anakin’s predatory and creepy behavior and you have removed his most distinctive and interesting trait.

I don’t know how you would go about fixing this problem.

I attempted to have this more explicit by having Vader begin as a fugue state. A dark robed figure that follows him around and removes people that anger him until eventually Anakin is lost, realises he is Vader and only Vader remains.

Somehow I hadn’t watched that video that Nev posted…really great insight!

Fullmetaled said:

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

Thanks! Yep, I’ve started working on it…

I wish all cgi would be updated in all three prequels because this looks amazing.

Well, that’s very kind. Thank you! I can’t promise any other shots I attempt are going to look as good!🤣

I’ve tackled the Jango/Boba Fett studio apartment scene.

To quote George: “I might’ve gone too far in a few places.”

https://youtu.be/vF6ioHgu-P8

Thanks! Yep, I’ve started working on it…

Thank you, BrotherOfSasquatch. I appreciate the feedback!
I’ve had some trouble finding free stock footage for elements that will work (not interested in paying for anything right now).
So, actually, if anyone knows of a website or a certain youtube channel that has decent free stock footage, let me know! 😁

Someone else left a comment on the channel saying I need to adjust the levels and the feathering on the mask of the city to make it blend in better and I think that’ll help quite a bit.

I’m fairly pleased with this FX shot I created. Ok, well, really I found some free stock footage and I pieced together…but it comes together pretty nicely imo. Hopefully, I can continue to get better with fx (why are they so hard for me?😆)

https://youtu.be/3i444Dqut-I

skip to the end to see it in context.😁

Fullmetaled said:

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

Yeah I tend to agree with you on this. It’s quite hard getting anything that sounds…well…not robotic.
I’ve just recently begun looking into this. I didn’t know what it was called until I came across a video that mentioned it in it’s description. Thanks!

Why not use a hayden sound alike? If there’s a Ryan golden type of va who can do anakin just like he can do Vader then why not?

I mean, sure, it might be something I look into. But I’m having too much fun playing around with this AI stuff! 😄

regularjoe said:

Bingowings said:

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

Pagan Editor said:

Is that JK Simmons laughing at the beginning of the video? 😛 A part of me thinks that you should make a duet of your homestead song with Jar jar, who won’t stop singing with improper english. 🤣

When it comes to your edits, I like the fact that Anakin knows Owen. I think I would preferably also cut Cliegg’s introduction, because I guess it would make sense that they’ve already met. Perhaps AI could make him say “Hello, son” or just “son” since I think he later says “Your mother’s dead, son”. Then he would still say that they’ve got a lot to talk about. I’m also a big fan of cutting the bar scene with Zam. Before I saw that clip, I don’t think it occured to me that it was even possible! 😉

You mean sound effect with my logo? ha ha no…it’s some anime sound effect I found.
I hadn’t thought about changing any of Cliegg’s lines…hmmm…perhaps…

Someone in my comments pointed out that if they are actually brothers, Owen’s last name would be Skywalker and not Lars (which, of course, it is in ANH). I felt quite stupid after that was pointed out! lol
So, I’m thinking I might rework Anakin’s dialogue to mention his cousin Owen. That would work, right? Cousins?

And yeah, the cutting of the bar scene: I still think it’s my favorite cut I discovered while playing around in editing.
Thanks for the feedback! I’m honored to be the first thread you posted in here!😁

That sir was me sir. It made sense to me that Beru was Anakin’s sister, that way Owen was his brother in law.

The old Decipher Card Game had a card for ANH character that was identified as Vader’s sister. Let the arguing about cannon begin.

I do like the idea of Beru being Anakin’s sister, however there’s not enough footage of her to play around with in order to really emphasize that.

Yeah I tend to agree with you on this. It’s quite hard getting anything that sounds…well…not robotic.
I’ve just recently begun looking into this. I didn’t know what it was called until I came across a video that mentioned it in it’s description. Thanks!

SpenceEdit said:

• Removed the sequence where Anakin’s crappy friends come by to be crappy to him.

🤣🤣🤣

Hello all!

There have been several people who have asked me about trying out AI for Anakin’s voice in my edit. Well, I’ve just posted a test clip here:

https://youtu.be/Iujp568vVsE

It doesn’t sound 100% like Hayden…but I personally think it’s getting fairly close. I’ve also posted a poll in case you wanna vote on the quality of the voice. Of course, you can always sound off here too! But a lot of the discourse is on my channel.

Thanks!

RogueLeader said:

I have to admit, for some reason I haven’t been checking your posts regularly, but man, I am IMPRESSED by some of the stuff you’ve done. You have been doing little things that I don’t think most editors have really considered, like changing Padmé’s expression in one seen, or create artificial depth of field in the shots of Geonosians to make it feel more real and to hide some of that early 2000’s CGI.

I may have overlooked some of your plans for the edit, but have you considered using voice AI to change Anakin’s dialogue, rather than totally redub him? I feel like total character redubs tend to break the illusion of fan edits, if you get what I mean.

But for real, you’re doing some pretty cool stuff with AOTC!

I somehow missed your post, RogueLeader! Thanks so much! I’m just trying things I’ve wanted to see so I’m glad others are enjoying it as well!

As far as AI voices, I’ve been testing it out in other videos. I’ve posted a few here and there. I did an early test of Anakin and it ended up sounding nothing like him so I used it as Owen Lars!😄

But I may try Anakin again. It can sometimes sound great but typically there are some terrible line reads as well so you have to try several iterations to get it closer to what you want.

I just put up another video of the deleted Padme’s Parents House scene:

https://youtu.be/TvZG5vptS80

If you wanna just see the scene itself, skip to around 12:26.

👍