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Yeah what if they cover the prequels and give us some never-before-seen deleted footage? Here’s hoping!
Yeah what if they cover the prequels and give us some never-before-seen deleted footage? Here’s hoping!
Could I also get a link please?
Here’s the best deepfake I’ve made yet!
Also, I’m quite pleased with how Yoda now looks in this shot:
Good stuff! I look forward to more!
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Has anyone considered addressing Palpatine by name in the OT? It would spoil the twist of the PT for first time viewers, assuming they watch the movies in production order as they should, but it would help tie the films together more cohesively in a subtle way.
Gotcha covered:
I didn’t think the first version you posted was bad…but NOW…sooo GOOD!
Maybe you could add a sound for the skin morphing, like playing with the pitch of leather getting wrinkled. I looked up the scenes of Indy on youtube and it sounded like something like that was going on.
I’ll look into that! Thanks!
On the subject of changing pitch, I was wondering if you could do it with Yoda’s voice. I think his voice seems to sound brighter than in the OT, but that doesn’t make much sense when you’re aging ten times slower than a human being.
Yeah, I don’t know what to do about his voice. Oz’s performance changed drastically once he started doing soley voiceover work for the CGI Yoda.
Also, I don’t know if I like having Duel of Fates playing when Anakin uses the speeder bike. I thought that you could maybe insert this version of Anakin’s theme starting at 1.37: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUC7MgkOgKA
I’m with you on removing Dual of the Fates. It’s already gone and replaced with something I quite like! Although, I’m not ready to show it yet…
It’s odd to carefully study PT scenes. There was one video from you with the gang in the arena where the original footage had this awful effect on Sam Jackson head. I guess it was the same kind of blending of two shots as you’ve shown with Jake Lloyd.
Yeah, I think it’s when Sam simply turns his head to screen left and it looks like it’s been reverse and also maybe slowed down? It’s odd…but it goes by pretty quickly too.
That scene of Palps watching the troops also has strange things going on. The blue senate guy has his mouth open, like he’s going “Wow!” like a kid. And behind Bail is a guy of the same species as the one in the cantina who doesn’t like Luke. Knowing George, it must be the same guy. An incredibly succesful politican who ended up with the death sentence in 12 star systems. McCluncky!
😆 I guess I hadn’t looked too closely at Ole Bluey!
But I’m liking the changes! I’m curious about the new music for Sheev looking at the clones. One thing that I’ve been thinking about regarding Zam’s changer-thing. I was thinking that you could perhaps get rid of it all, except for her death, and you recolor her skin grey as she morphs. The idea is that she gets deformed by the dart in way that looks a bit like the Nazis dying in Raiders of the Lost Ark and the Last Crusade.
The music I inserted was temporary (John Williams - Black Sunday OST). I don’t have the ending music figured out yet cuz I haven’t nailed down the edit yet…cuz there are a few FX shots I don’t know how to pull off convincingly yet!😆
About Zam: Yeah that was what I was going for…but maybe doing something additional to the face (like you suggested) would be possible. Hmmm…
Thanks for the feedback!
Great to hear from you, Adywan! Your edit is coming along nicely!
How did you pull off the Vader and Kenobi shot? Is that a shot from elsewhere in the film that you scaled down and inserted there (roto-ing around the troopers, of course)?
Here’s my attempt at some genuine color correction:
https://youtu.be/wXKnRe9x3YY?si=NZZTFA03z1JIB8Zp
This is a shot of Anakin I’ve altered and repurposed
https://youtu.be/SPWXv_9rGQg?si=crd3qw9OPTqwVXUj
I just hit 1000 subscribers yesterday! To celebrate, I made the first teaser trailer. Feel free to join me tonight to watch together:
Here’s my edit of the Jedi being surrounded in the area scene:
https://youtu.be/vqsLDL42RPc
Here’s a comparison to the original:
https://youtu.be/8hL_LP9_Gqc
And here’s my original video with me going into some of the “why” behind some of the changes:
https://youtu.be/M804B7y8ODU
I’m glad you guys are digging it!
So about that rack focus shot…
I very much appreciate what snooker did for me with that shot here:
https://streamable.com/engvb5
Although, it’s been a few years since that shot was completed and I wanted to push it closer to what we see in ANH…with a bit of a lens distortion and everything:
THEN I realized I should maybe sort of, ya know, LOOK at a rack focus shot from the OT 😆 and I noticed the image stretches vertically…so I did a bit more work on it and got it even CLOSER to what I wanted:
Hello fellow fan editors!
A very basic scene of Obi-Wan trying to contact Anakin but I’ve reworked it quite a bit.
-CLIP:
https://youtu.be/2x40-QWMAfU
deets…
-SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON:
https://youtu.be/zmXzZvKt-gg
in case you’re curious…
-EARLIER TEST:
https://youtu.be/DZnxu_QrUT4
Shave off a syllable when Han and Luke are found on Hoth so he says, “Ice of you guys to drop by!”
Dew it!
Mando is getting a 4k steelbook release so I wonder if they suddenly need cash. And if Australians will have to import.
Waa? Cool!
Yeah, I just looked it up…just seasons 1 & 2.
Can this make color falloff with the lightsabers work on all scenes of the original 6 films? https://youtu.be/CYN2alBR3P8
Messed around with a real quick and dirty test of this the other day actually. It actually looks reasonably fine!
https://streamable.com/te4mt3
Dang that looks good, snooker!
Pagan Editor said:
"… Have you considered cutting something in the shot of Mace defending Dooku? I just feel like he’s patronizing towards Padme. I would probably cut the last line.
"Yes, he is Windusplaining
Macesplaining works too 😉
I think it’s been suggested previously on the PT Redux thread that the duel could be radically recut so that Obi-Wan faces Dooku alone. Then, Anakin arrives and runs or jumps toward Duke Dooku as he’s about to kill Kenobi. Then you get rid of that whole “go slowly on the left”.
Yes, that’s my plan (hate that “go in slowly on the left” line). I think the issue has always been HOW to get the 2 Jedi coming in at different times? Because they both come in from the same republic gunship thingy. Well, I think I’ve found something that might work…it’ll just require more fx work. By-the-way, anyone interested in helping with fx work? I’m still learning in this arena but I know I’ll only get so good.
I would want to get rid of Yoda with the lightsaber, maybe even dueling with the Force, because I just think Kenobi and Anakin look weak just lying there, but then you might not have a lot of footage left. I think I’ve actually seen a clip of someone on this forum making it look Dooku throws a cylinder toward Anakin and used the shot of Anakin getting hit by Force lightning and placing the cylinder over the lightning.
Yes I’ve seen the cylinder being thrown at Anakin and that works pretty well. In fact, there was an earlier version of this done by Trooperman in his Shroud of the Darkside edit. I-…well…hmm…I hate to give too much away…but let’s just say I’ve got some plans!
If you want to keep Yoda and Dooku throwing things, perhaps you could have them thrash talking eachother, and then Dooku says something like “It is obvious that this contest can only be decided by our skills with the Force”. And then they start to throw things.
Yeah, I think most fans would agree that the force dueling is the best part of that confrontation.
I’ve actually tried switching that particular line around like you’ve suggested. I have something that almost works…I might post it someday.
Perhaps impossible, but I’ve seen something called wav2lip where you could lipsync new lines. If memory serves me right, the resolution is low, but you can improve it with deepfakes.
Hmm…I didn’t know you could improve it with, say, DeepFaceLabs. Anyone here on the forums gotten any good with DeepFaceLabs? First, my computer can’t really handle it well. Second, when I’ve attempted it in the past, I didn’t know how to refine it for getting a better result. Even with the tutorials out there, they don’t explain it well enough (for me) to get better results.
Thanks for chatting and sharing ideas, Pagan Editor!
Seeing a new clip from you SSWR brings warm feelings to my heart. 😄
Have you considered cutting something in the shot of Mace defending Dooku? I just feel like he’s patronizing towards Padme. I would probably cut the last line, “It’s not in his character”. The longer that shot keeps going, the more smiling and patronizing he seems. Also, I think it makes him and the Jedi look dumb since we find out that Dooku indeed is involved.
But good stuff!
This is a very interesting idea. That particular exchange was always awkward, wasn’t it? I had a good think on it and tested it out. I wasn’t sure because, at first, I thought that line would be necessary. But I was wrong! It works very well without it and the point still comes across. Thanks for the idea!
One bit that’s probably impossible to do anything about but has bugged me all these years. The film makes out sword fighting and acrobatics are more impressive than throwing the ceiling at people and making electricity spark out of your finger tips (something the Palpatine should be the only user really but I digress). For me it makes more sense if Yoda and Dooku use sabers first magic next. It leads into Dooku dropping a large pipe on Kenobi and Skywalker if they are at that point chucking the architecture at each other.
I 100% agree!
OK, well, actually…98% agree?
I’m planning on cutting Yoda out. This will be about Dooku/Anakin. I’m finding some interesting ways of adding on to that fight while hopefully taking out the um…maclunky parts. 😆
Pagan Editor said:
"… Have you considered cutting something in the shot of Mace defending Dooku? I just feel like he’s patronizing towards Padme. I would probably cut the last line.
"Yes, he is Windusplaining
😆
For those who haven’t seen it, I posted my edit of the Palpatine Office scene:
https://youtu.be/Gx4RcNbKKbY
Comparison video:
https://youtu.be/TCGi5LBr06Q
Here’s my original video on it with me explaining some of my decisions:
https://youtu.be/P9gKcQgaj_4
I don’t remember if it was someone here or on YouTube, but someone achieved this exact idea before, so it is definitely doable without voice Ai or anything.
EDIT: I did find a version of this idea. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GvpT_7BMAc
The scene is very good, but unfortunately the music is not the same, so I don’t think this scene could be used in an actual edit. We would need to change the whole score.
Huh? Of course it could be used in an edit.
Also, changing the score is what fan edits do best! - well, maybe not BEST…but they do it. 😛
I’m a big fan of the idea of inserting Anakin’s theme into II and III since I think it’s one of the best pieces of the trilogy. It feels like Lucas and Williams no longer wanted to use it, which is a shame, because the theme makes Anakin more likeable.
Completely agree! I can think of only one time it was used in AOTC and it’s kinda mixed quietly into the background.
I just had a few ideas that I wanted to share:
First, I’ve been wondering if you could make CGI look more real by sharpening it. I’m mostly thinking about characters, with rotobrush/magic mask (I think I’ve seen that you’re using Resolve). There’s a tool called Mid/Detail in Resolve that I’ve seen used to increase/decrease detail in human faces. Here’s a link to someone who seems to know what he’s doing with some advanced sharpening techniques: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDw2znXECcg&list=LL&index=64
I do apply a bit of sharpening and sometimes mess around with the mid/detail…usually it can’t be used very much. But I’ll take a look at the link! Thanks! Unfortunately, my pc can’t handle a lot of the ai stuff in resolve very well. (like magic mask and relight).
Finally, here’s a review for something called Dehancer that makes digital footage look like film. But I didn’t realize at first that it costs $449. You could almost buy your ship for that! 😉
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztmd8vbO1a4Oh yeah, Dehancer is pretty cool. But it is crazy expensive. I know there’s other software out there that does the same sort of thing with differing prices (FilmConvert for $125, Color.io for $129, etc.) Of course, probably the most cheapest options out there is to just do your own sort of film emulation with cheaper plug-ins/what you already have. However, doing so is obviously more difficult and more time consuming in regards to research and all that plus the results might vary a lot depending on how you do it (which might honestly be kind of a good thing as well since it means it gives you a better senes of control with how you want the final product to look).
Yeah it’s a bit too pricey for me. I would need to spend money on a better pc before I look into something like that. I’m surprised I’ve learned more about color correction and film emulation as I have. Granted, I’m nowhere near a pro, but I’m pleased with how I’ve been able to implement some of the things I’ve learned free on YouTube (without paying for a class!).
Some really cool stuff here! Any updates?
On a different note, I remember that someone added a hologram of some mystical stone wall to Palpatine’s offices in AOTC, but I can’t find it anymore. I was thinking about extending the scene in question.
Hmmm…I’d like to see that!
It’s looking really good! I’m certainly interested in seeing what you got for AOTC!
Through deepfaking and inserts, have a scene showing Anakin looking through ancient Sith texts and holocrons to find out if the Sith ever actually cheated death.
Maybe try to use footage of a Sith wayfinder as a Sith holocron, since those have never been shown in live action?
I like that idea!