If you save the Superman shot for later in the movie, Shatner could be looking at the movie Enterprise blowing up, (playing off the original Airplane 2 gag) or new Kirk could be looking back at him? ;)
I don't think he had to sell the farm. Whether he's having regrets about it now is another matter entirely.
I think you have us confused with iTunes? Fortunately for you, we're not Apple...
LexX said:
Interesting points.
I think some may forget that we are talking about planets here. Tatooine could be bigger than Jupiter all we know. It can have millions or even billions of towns small and large. If I lived middle of Sahara (okay, impossible) and thought it was the most boring place ever, it doesn't mean that there isn't anything else happening on the whole planet. If I knew there was one airport (spaceport) pretty close, it doesn't mean it's the only one on the whole planet. Even then, Mos Eisley could be a 10 hour ride away from Luke's home even at landspeeder speed, which could be a couple of thousand kilometers, who knows
And if there aren't any cool car races right now happening at my local town of 12 people... well, I'm pretty sure there are lots of races going on 24/7 here on Earth. If I lived on Tatooine I'd try to come up with something fun to do then, even though the podrace as a story element is boring and ridicilous and shouldn't exist just because of that.
The Jabba angle is pretty good, but then again, we don't have anything other to hold against the "Tatooine is a dead rock" comment than a young man who wants to be somewhere else than at his home.
Btw, I'm not defending PT or anything else at all here as I don't like the choices made either, just more to think about for your own imagination.
Another casualty of the Biggs scenes being cut was the backstory that Luke and his friends race their Skyhoppers to alleviate the boredom. (Which was an update of Lucas' own young life as reflected in American Graffiti.) Only Luke's statement in the Rebel briefing about shooting Womp Rats in his T-16 made the final cut.
Now if George really wanted to tie into the OT, Anakin should have been a Skyhopper racer. But the desire to do his own take on the chariot race from Ben Hur was too strong...
JEDIT:And drmurph beat me to it. ;)
Mos Eisely is a spaceport. Anchorhead was doughnut center, (what a hole) and presumably was more of a little agrarian community linked to the moisture farms. There are probably a lot of Anchorhead type towns on the planet. Probably a lot of "ghost" towns too.
In the OT, M.E. is presumably the major destination whether arriving or leaving Tatooine, unless you're doing something really really shady, and are willing to risk landing somewhere like the Jundland Wastes. And even a tiny spot on the map in our world can have a large international airport.
To borrow a term from Star Trek, there's a "failed colony" aspect to Tatooine. A lot of settlers probably tried to make the miserable rock green, and only the descendants of hardier souls are still there trying to make it work.
I got the impression from the OT (and the deleted scenes with Luke's friends that were in the comic) that the Empire normally wouldn't bother with such a remote inhospitable place. They have bigger fish to fry, so maybe there's a spy or two just to keep an eye out for Rebel activity. Which is why smugglers and the underworld would have a presence there.
The Empire probably doesn't care what Jabba and his ilk do so long as it doesn't interfere with their plans, and perhaps an Imperial official gets a annual bribe to keep looking the other way.
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DominicCobb said:
I thought it was great. The Shatner stuff is confusing (where is he? why are there two control rooms?) but it's still funny.
He's on the bridge, located somewhere below the tower, It's not that hard! ;)
The scene actually works as a spoof of crisis situations, where everybody and their granny is trying to advise, but end up only adding to the chaos and confusion.
NeverarGreat said:
Getting a lot better! I'd vote for less Airplane! material, and it would be neat if you could find a way to sort out where Shatner's crew is as opposed to the Airplane control tower crew. Since it's night in the Airplane sequence, I'd vote for having Shatner be in the destroyed tower (cut the line about only having a bridge) and having the Airplane flight controllers be somewhere else (no guy jumping out of the window). Both crews are funny on their own, but it's like they're both hanging out in the same place, which is so confusing that it kills the humor for me in places.
If you look carefully at the tower, the windows are dark. They obviously have the solar shields deployed. That's why it looks dark outside. ;)
Shatner is clearly broadcasting from the basement of the tower.
Leonardo said:
SilverWook said:
D Cells, (or the British equivalent) C Cells would look pretty tiny hanging off of Mr. Prowse's backside. ;)
My scale must be off then. You're right, those must be bigger than I thought, Mr. Prowse is a tall bloke.
As an aside, I'm surprised they still make C cells. There don't seem to be many gadgets or toys that use them today. (AA's or smaller are dominant.)
We have a Kienzle wall clock from the mid 80's in our kitchen and it's the only thing in the house that uses a C cell. :)
I have an old handheld electronic game from the 80's that requires two C's plus a nine volt!
I hate to go off-topic, but may I ask what is it? (reply via pm if you so prefer)
This one.
http://www.handheldmuseum.com/Mego/FabFred.htm
It made for a great "flashing computer console" prop in one of my college video projects many years ago. I lost the decals and other pieces over time though.
To steer things back on topic, I also have this little beauty...
http://www.handheldmuseum.com/Kenner/SWBattleCommand.htm
It uses six(!) AA's, but I eventually found an AC adapter for it. Much to my surprise, one of the Rebel Assault games used the sounds it made. Nice little obscure reference.
Could be part of the lens hood then.
You do know about my beardless George theory, right? ;)
D Cells, (or the British equivalent) C Cells would look pretty tiny hanging off of Mr. Prowse's backside. ;)
As an aside, I'm surprised they still make C cells. There don't seem to be many gadgets or toys that use them today. (AA's or smaller are dominant.) I have an old handheld electronic game from the 80's that requires two C's plus a nine volt!
This also raises the issue of where Threepio's batteries were hidden for wide shots where his eyes are lit up. That panel on his back?
Hanna Barbera did a Addams Family cartoon show a year after the Scooby episode, and that series is out via the Warner Archives, so perhaps it's not an issue now? The show didn't use much of the original series cast like Scooby did though, so it might be an actor specific issue.
Great find!
Wow, even in the 70's I would think they could come up with a better solution to powering Vader's belt/chest lights than that! Smaller battery types were available, even back then. I'd bet that monstrosity gave Dave Prowse a sore butt at the end of a long days shooting. Now we know why Vader never sat down much in the movie. ;)
I have a couple B&W stills from the cell block and trash compactor scenes that are pretty similar to those other shots. Found them at a bottom of a box of unrelated movie photos at a swapmeet in the late 80's, along with a candid shot of Mark Hamill and Peter Mayhew in costume on the Muppet Show set. I've never seen the Muppet one printed anywhere.
Must be some other piece of equipment then. A boom mike would ideally be over Mark's head, pointed downwards, and not way off to the left of the shot.
I think Lucas simply changed his mind between the trilogies. Tatooine was more of an old West analogy in the OT. You had homesteads, saloons, shootouts, traders, and bandits who would attack unwary travelers. Even the rifle Luke pulls out of the Landspeeder before the sandpeople attacked looks like a prop from a western.
Even though Jabba's Palace eventually turns out to be located there, (it can't be his only stronghold) the planet is still referred to as "nothing to see" by Luke.
What there is of Tatooine in the previews I've seen of Dark Horse's The Star Wars comic, (based on Lucas' original drafts) it still appears to be an out of the way place.
There's no easy way to reconcile the OT and PT versions of the planet.
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Are you sure that's not the thing at the top of the moisture vaporator?
Ryan McAvoy said:
TV's Frink said:
Maybe he is your ex-wife.
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Guidelines-for-Post-Content-and-General-Behavior-Or-How-Not-To-Get-Banned/forum/2/topic/12074/
Please read #4 again. Thanks!
Wasn't there a comic book where Ash faced off against them though?
Let's not...we already have a thread in off topic for such shenanigans.
I'm probably the last person to see this, but it's still funny as heck.
My only nitpick is they couldn't find a fan with a decent Chewie suit for this.
Matte painting may be a lost art form, as I doubt anyone was training a protege after CGI took over. IIRC, optical printers have all been retired. (ILM has theirs on display somewhere.) Motion control is still used for certain types of FX shots even today.
Let's be honest though, nobody is going back to optical printers anymore. It's too time consuming, and movies are cranked out faster then ever these days. Something as complex as the final battle scenes in ROTJ pushed the limits of how many elements you could combine into a single shot.
And there were plenty of old movies with bad matte paintings, and dodgy opticals. Watch Star Trek TMP, and count the misaligned elements in certain shots sometime.
After Lucasfilm somehow lost the original Death Star miniature, (it eventually found it's way into the hands of a fan) nothing really surprises me anymore.
Aren't the masters for the other Max Rebo Band songs still missing?
Not Lucasfilm approved!
There's even a Jabba one, which makes a tiny bit more sense. ;)