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#1278204
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The Sequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread (Radical Ideas Welcome).
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Which explanations do you think would be more lore-driven than theme-driven? I suppose reference to Imperial remnants might be lore-driven, but I’d also argue that it could work thematically as well.

If the death of the Emperor, their undisputed figurehead, was kept the Imperial remnants from reuniting, the idea that Kylo Ren, the heir apparent to Darth Vader, could have been used as a new symbol to reunite them is an interesting idea that ties into the theme of unity and power that I mentioned previously, and it could make Kylo Ren the symbolic antithesis to what Luke represents for the Resistance/Republic.

To me, I think it is about finding a nice explanation that feels satisfying and is a believable progression of the story from ROTJ.

It seems like the two biggest questions regarding the political situation are:

How did the First Order get the resources to build a new military without the New Republic doing anything about it?

What is the purpose of the Resistance, and why isn’t the Republic doing anything about the First Order?

These two things, without proper explanation, is what makes a lot of people feel we are back at Rebels vs Empire again. At face value, the bad guys just have new ships, a new army, and a new super weapon, and the good guys are still scrappy underdogs.

Like you were saying, maybe a good idea would be to rewatch The Force Awakens (theatrical or Restructured) and completely ignore the opening crawl, then based off the facts the film itself gives, try to determine what the most accurate explanation would be based off what we are given within the film.

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#1278201
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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I like that idea too, that R2 just tells the story of the Skywalker Saga very much later on.

But, I think that could’ve been addressed by just having some secondary comic/book/show story about them finding/restoring their lost memories somehow. Could make for a good adventure for Luke to go on after Return of the Jedi.

I guess in my mind, having both of their memories erased (at least during the OT) just solves those questions the PT-OT continuity raises.

But I guess the big three things R2 would know would be who Obi-Wan is, who Yoda is and that Luke & Leia are siblings. Like has been said before, revealing he knows Obi-Wan or Yoda to Luke isn’t really important to him, or just goes along with it. I guess that is why Hal’s idea is good, because then the biggest piece of information R2 knows, that Luke and Leia are siblings, would no longer be an issue.

I still think having both droids’ memories wiped (and possibly restored at a later point) is the the cleaner solution to a lot of the questions, but not having them witnessing Luke and Leia’s birth works both ways.

Don’t worry, Hal, one of us will fix this later! I think I’ll do this for my eventual edits now that you’ve brought it up.

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#1278189
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The Sequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread (Radical Ideas Welcome).
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I think this is the good/bad thing about the political situation in the Sequels.

There are multiple ways we could define and interpret the political situation in general and more specifically within the opening crawls, but according to what we know in the canon, there’s some truth in most of these interpretations.

Let me lay out some of the interpretations:

The New Republic supported the Resistance, but it didn’t support it at the same time.

Seems contradictory, but the truth is that some senators within the Republic (Populists) did support Leia’s Resistance movement, while others (Centrists) did not. So a crawl could say “with the support of the Republic”, or “failing to convince the Republic” and both would be true to a certain extent. Even though Leia didn’t have the Republic’s full support, some Senators did.

I don’t know the source, but I also feel like I read somewhere that some Centrists worlds actually left the Republic and aligned themselves with the First Order a few months before TFA, which seems like a pretty big deal but nothing in the films suggests this, so an editor could either run with that idea or completely ignore it.

That’s what’s funny to me, the theatrical crawl says the Republic supported Leia’s Resistance (openly? secretly?), but in a deleted scene Leia also says, “Not all the senators think I’m insane… or maybe they do… I don’t care!”
This seems to imply the opposite, which lends more to the idea that the Resistance might be more of a rogue movement that doesn’t have the Republic’s official support.

You also wonder what the Resistance technically is. Are they an anti-fascist spy network that is spread across the galaxy, or are they more of an organized militia within First Order space? The latter would make them seem like the French Resistance within Nazi-occupied France during WW2, but the theatrical film seems to imply the former more, so the “Resistance” refers more to their goal of wanting to resist the growing influence of the First Order. But honestly you could probably go with either option and what exists within the film wouldn’t necessarily contradict either interpretation.

As for why Leia formed the Resistance rather than just operating within the New Republic military, you have a few options which all seem to be partially true:

The Republic did not want to start another war (tired of war/preferring diplomacy), and/or they didn’t have enough proof that they were more of a threat than other past Imperial remnants, so Leia took matters into her own hands to prove to the Republic that they needed to take action before it was too late.

The Republic did see a threat, but investigating the First Order for war crimes in an official capacity could be risky (maybe lacking evidence), so the Resistance was meant to be a covert militia to gather enough proof that the Republic to act on (at least some pro-Leia senators had this mindset).

Leia knew there were First Order spies within the Senate feeding information to the FO as well as downplaying their threat to the Senate, so Leia formed an independent covert militia to avoid being spied on, as well as finding another evidence that the First Order was preparing for war against the Republic.

Regarding the First Order, there are multiple ways you could elaborate on them as well. The theatrical crawl just says they have “risen from the ashes of the Empire”, which is pretty vague. Some phrases I have suggested in the past have been that they have “emerged from uncharted space”, more recently “[they] have taken over the remnants of the Empire”.

I think the biggest question regarding the First Order is how did they consolidate power and resources under the nose of the New Republic, and I guess a good crawl would at least hint towards that. Saying that they have emerged from hiding, or have absorbed other Imperial remnants could help explain that. The funny thing is, either interpretation seems to be partially true in canon.

The First Order:
-has been hiding in the Unknown Regions rebuilding their military in secret.
-has absorbed the manpower/resources of most of the remaining Imperial remnants.
-has wealthy benefactors within the Republic supporting them (like pro-Imperials or war-profiteers).
-has spies and sympathizers within the Senate helping downplay their scale and overall threat to the New Republic.
-were being led by a mysterious Force-user powerful in the dark side that helped them navigate the Unknown Regions and used its secrets to help them rebuild.

All of these factor into the First Order’s backstory in canon, as far as I know.

While all of these interpretations of the political situation between the New Republic, the Resistance and the First Order does bring up a lot of interesting ideas and nuance, because none of these things are really defined well in the films, the whole situation seems vague and confusing. While it is good for us that we can find our own interpretations, I think it is a weakness of these films that they don’t just pick one of these interpretations and go with it.

So what we’re stuck with is trying to decide on which direction to go in (and these are only the canon-friendly interpretations, an editor could pick even more). Obviously each editor is going to have their own preference, but it would be nice to determine which interpretations fit best within the story and themes of the Saga and Sequel Trilogy. I guess they all have pros and cons, but maybe it is a matter of finding one that has more pros than cons, if that makes sense.

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#1278005
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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While I think that might be the likely answer, I am also starting to think JJ and Co. needed a new big bad to have Rey’s team and Kylo’s team join forces. So to do that, they’re gonna have Palpatine come back. Nothing against Pappa Palpatine, but I think having a third party “Great Evil” is a contrived, or lazy, way to resolve the conflict between the Resistance and the First Order, or more specifically Rey and Kylo Ren. I personally wish they would find a way to resolve the conflict amongst themselves, but it really is pretty early to say what is going to happen (and if it will work/won’t work).

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#1278003
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The Sequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread (Radical Ideas Welcome).
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Funny that you posted this! I actually have been thinking about this as well. A while back I probably wrote a dozen different versions of these paragraphs, and this is where I’ve landed out.

TFA:

Luke Skywalker has vanished. In his absence, the radical FIRST ORDER has taken over the remnants of the Empire and will not rest until Skywalker, the last Jedi, has been destroyed.

Convinced that the First Order is secretly preparing for war, General Leia Organa mobilizes a covert Resistance to prove to the New Republic that diplomacy is not an option.

Believing that the Jedi are their key to victory, Leia has sent her best pilot to find her lost brother, Luke, before their dangerous new enemy reaches him first….

The First Order absorbing the other Imperial Remnants could be enough to rationalize their strength, basically that they consolidated resources to help build their new toys.
I think I’m trying to accomplish similar things as you are. “Radical” could be replaced with “mysterious” to further help explain the New Republic’s inaction.

TLJ:

The FIRST ORDER reigns. Having decimated all their leadership, Supreme Leader Snoke now deploys his merciless legions to seize military control of the fractured New Republic.

Only General Leia Organa’s band of RESISTANCE fighters can stand against this rising tyranny, certain that the hope Jedi Master Luke Skywalker inspires will reunite the galaxy.

But the Resistance has been exposed. As the First Order speeds toward their vulnerable base, the brave heroes mount a desperate escape….

Possibly switching around certain terms like “Republic”, “galaxy”, or add things like “allies”, “forces”, etc. might give you a better combo, but I tried to keep the crawls concise and to the point.

Two alternatives for the second paragraph:

Only General Leia Organa’s band of RESISTANCE fighters stand together against this rising tyranny, certain that the hope Jedi Master Luke Skywalker inspires can reunite their scattered allies.

Only General Leia Organa’s band of RESISTANCE fighters stand united against this rising tyranny, certain that Jedi Master Luke Skywalker’s return could restore hope to the galaxy.

I guess I am trying to emphasize the Republic as divided and the Resistance as united, and hope is what makes that difference, and Luke is what is needed to restore hope to the rest of the galaxy and reunite everyone. It should all tie back to the main objective, which is Luke. This idea extends to the TFA crawl. And I personally like the dichotomy of unity and power. When the First Order reunifies the Imperial remnants, they acquire the power needed to topple the Republic, which leaves the Republic in disarray and vulnerable. Now, the Resistance is desperate for the hope Luke inspires in order to reunite the Republic and the galaxy and give them the power they need to defeat the First Order.

I also like that you came around to “Chaos reigns”! Personally I think it fits better with the situation: the decimation of Republic leadership has left their remaining forces and allies in disarray, and that chaos is what allows the First Order to invade the galaxy successfully. Really, the First Order won’t reign until they have control of all the major systems, which Rey says will still take weeks to months.

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#1277994
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Hal 9000 said:

Didn’t The Clone Wars feature Darth Bane talking to Yoda? I never was a big fan of the series but watched that portion as I was delving into it based on a tip from smudger9 that there was some new Liam Neeson dialogue that could be culled for my Ep3 edit.

Anyway, wasn’t the appearance of Bane only a vision or phantom being animated by someone else? My understanding of Lucas’ intention (circa 2005+, at least) is that Qui-Gon (re?)discovered a way to eternal conscious persistence via the Light, which the Dark was incapable of providing. Light-siders could (potentially?) live on past death, but dark-siders couldn’t.

You are correct. Since then, though, some canon material like a Darth Vader comic series and the animated show Rebels have implied that a Sith could find a way to cheat death (not necessarily spiritual immortality, but ways to preserve or bring back their physical bodies, but this never really works out). As others have said, it is possible Palpatine’s spirit is just trapped within the place he died, like a ghost that haunts the ruins of the Death Star. Or, they could just find a hologram or holocron of the Emperor. Whatever it may be, I’m just gonna hope they have a decent explanation for it and try not to worry too much over the little information we currently have. And hey, if we aren’t happy with it, isn’t that what fan edits are for? But yeah, hopefully it won’t come to that, but I am also on the side that it actually isn’t Palpatine reborn, so we can focus on the existing characters. We’ll see I guess.

And how the hell is there that big of a section of either Death Star still extant? Those things each blew up so thoroughly that I find it laughable. Circle any one of the specks that fly away from the center on your screen and tell me that it could have fallen into an atmosphere and survived to be that big.

I also see this as a thing a future ROTJ edit could change (by having the Death Star blow up in chunks). This is something I could see Ady do in Revisited.

JEDIT: This might be sort of a drunk ramble sort of comment, but I’ll be especially frustrated if the Sequel Trilogy as a whole turns out to be flat or bankrupt because its announcement was what prompted an obsessive part of me to pour countless hours into doing my newer prequel fan edits.

Y’know, in the Summer of 2012 I watched the OOT and was happy not to follow it up with the prequels at all. I only did so because my wife wanted to, and we watched Q2’s edits. I shrugged afterward, and resolved to just revisit the OT every few years. I was happy; I was fine. Then in October Disney changed everything and I felt like I had to satisfy my tireless perfectionism by going back to the prequels. If the ST ends up detracting from the OT rather than at least enhancing it, it’s gonna really suck for me.

God damn those prequel movies.

Please don’t think this! The announcement of the Sequel Trilogy inspired your Prequel Edits, but I would argue that your Prequel edits have and will inspire further edits of the Sequel Trilogy. And I think we will eventually have solid, cohesive edits of the entire Skywalker Saga. That is at least my own hope/vision.

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#1277990
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Hal 9000 said:

Quick idea: paint out the droids during the birthing of Luke and Leia.
It’s the only time R2 and Yoda share a room, and gives some additional ‘plausible deniability’ to R2 about the finer details of Luke’s family tree.

Good idea!

Alternatively, you could have Bail wipe both of their memories by slightly changing his line to, “Have the…droids’ mind[s] wiped.” Maybe just cut to an insert of R2 to hide the dialogue change, cut to 3PO and replace R2’s laughing beeps with sad beeps. R2 has seen just as much as 3PO, and they can pull those memories out of either of them, so why not wipe them both and solve the problem that way?

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#1277989
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The Force Awakens - The Starlight Project
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This is pretty cool Nev.

I showed this to someone, who has seen TFA a few times, to see if they understood the intention.

They didn’t totally get it, and thought that maybe Rey and R2 had a special connection, but they didn’t really put it together that Rey remembered R2 from the vision and got him to check his memory for the map.

Just thought I would try to see if another person would understand without your additional context, and at least in this one example the person didn’t fully get it.

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#1277928
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George Lucas: Unreliable Narrator &amp; Time Travelling Revisionist...
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What a fantastic and very important post, oojason! I haven’t read through your entire post yet so apologies if you touched on what I’m about to say.

This topic is so fundamentally tied to the purpose of this website: to petition for the unaltered original trilogy to be released officially. This website is now over 10 years old, and still the potential of this happening is still just rumors and speculation (although Disney’s acquisition of Fox and the conclusion of the last Skywalker Saga film this year could be hints to it finally happening).

I really think reiterating this truth is more important now than ever. Since the Disney purchase of Lucasfilm and the release of some of the newer movies, I’ve noticed a pretty growing support for George Lucas and the prequels that just didn’t exist as much during the 2000s. On one hand, it is great to see that prequel generation growing up and giving George and those films some love (I am a prequel child myself). On the other hand, I’ve begun to notice that this has also lead to many fans supporting George’s Special Editions, and supporting George’s wish to maintain those as the definitive versions, seeing George as a mastermind who had everything planned out from the beginning.

Hopefully fans who feel this way will stumble across this post and see that what fans really deserve is the truth about how this franchise we all love actually came to be, and how the fight for a release of the unaltered original trilogy is just an extension of that desire to preserve a special piece of film history.

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#1277771
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The Force Awakens - The Starlight Project
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That’s pretty good, becoming a little clearer maybe.

A few notes:
The shot of just R2 when you wipe to 3PO, I feel like we should see a little of BB-8’s head since he was so close to R2 in the last shot, or, have R2 by himself when Rey first looks at him.

When 3PO says, “That sounds like…” I feel like we should clearly hear R2 and not BB-8 like it seems. Maybe you have it where we hear both of them simultaneously, but I think she just be R2 beeps, at least right before 3PO says that.

I like the new “She found what?” line. I wonder if it would be possible to create a quick shot of Rey in that scene to show she is there with them. Maybe with a similar technique you used to create the shot of Rey standing in the foreground, looking at R2 and BB-8. Maybe this isn’t necessary though.

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#1277515
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Your thoughts on the Episode IX title - <strong>'The Rise Of Skywalker'</strong> - a NON-SPOILER thread
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I guess we could talk ad nauseum about the different directions they could’ve taken with the last trilogy, but I’m honestly glad they’ve gone in this direction. To me, it seems like Kennedy, Johnson, Abrams and others decided to collaborate on a story for the fans and future fans, not just a story that fits within the lore of the universe, but a story that continues to add to the tapestry of Star Wars mythology, and how these myths can translate to the lives of its audience.

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#1277490
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Your thoughts on the Episode IX title - <strong>'The Rise Of Skywalker'</strong> - a NON-SPOILER thread
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Also, HelloGreedo posted a video regarding his interpretation of the title, and I think I would like it if some version of this turned to be true as well. These films are fundamentally about family, and I think this trilogy has emphasized how family is more than blood, so I could see ‘Skywalker’ becoming the mantle of that idea.
https://youtu.be/lPCuDbkstuY

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#1277489
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Your thoughts on the Episode IX title - <strong>'The Rise Of Skywalker'</strong> - a NON-SPOILER thread
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I posted this in the other IX thread but I’ll repost here since this thread is more relevant.

I’ve seen a few people say they don’t like The Rise of Skywalker as the title. My friends don’t, and I’ll admit I didn’t like it at first either (I was holding out hope for Balance of the Force), but the more I’ve thought about it, the more I actually think it’s really appropriate. Here’s my interpretation:

If you think about it, Luke has really been the focus of the new trilogy, or more specifically, what he and the Jedi represent, which is HOPE.

Leia wanted to find Luke in TFA because she felt he was the key to stopping the First Order, partially because of his power, but also because his influence as the legendary Jedi could sway the New Republic into taking the First Order threat seriously.

In TLJ, Leia and the Resistance were desperate for Luke’s help not only for his power, but also because the Jedi represent hope, and that hope returning could help inspire the galaxy and the remnants of the Republic to unite against the invading First Order.

Even though Luke didn’t rejoin the fight for long, the tale of Luke’s mythic stand against the First Order and Kylo Ren has spread throughout the galaxy, and so the rise of Skywalker’s legend has reignited hope in the allies of the Resistance to also fight back against this common enemy.

It’s likely additional interpretations will be made more apparent once we see the film, as the titles often have, but I’m sold on the title now. For those who aren’t happy with it yet I hope you’ll come around to embrace it as I have. I’m pumped for IX, y’all.

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#1277487
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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I’ve also been hoping they wouldn’t resort to a greater evil trope that they have to unite in order to take down. To me, Kylo Ren and his followers should be treated as the bad guys, but through the posutive actions of the good guys they are able to find a path to peace with their enemy rather than by just destroying them.

But, there’s so little information that we are doomed to get false expectations or blow things out of proportion until we see the movie. I’m just gonna keep an open mind that they can make the Emperor’s return work and make sense within the story, and maybe it’ll provide some more context with how Snoke fit into this picture. I didn’t see anyone mention how the Emperor’s motif played in TLJ when Snoke threw Rey into the air. Initially I just thought it was a callback but maybe that will carry more importance in retrospect.

At this point, the Emperor might be playing a bigger or smaller role than we are expecting right now. So the best thing is to keep an open mind and imagine how either option could work for you and the story.

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#1277478
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The Force Awakens - The Starlight Project
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NeverarGreat said:

BTW, here’s the shifted Leia scene:

https://vimeo.com/329946951

Password: fanedit

I went through almost a dozen different bits of music before finding something halfway serviceable.

I’m kinda seeing where you’re going with this. You do lose that shot of Kylo Ren’s face after he lets Han go, which is a bit of a shame, but I’m guessing it fits better to cut it there because the music?

Also, the music is pretty good for the quick shot of Leia. Though I’m not crazy about how it starts of with Rey’s motif. I wonder if it would be possible to splice two different tracks. Because the moment when Leia drops her head and the horns kind of dip too, that works so nicely! I think it would be interesting if you could replace the Rey motif with a piece of the rendition of the Han & Leia motif, and then it could quickly switch to the deep horns as Leia drops her head. It would almost be like her feeling Han, but then when the horns cut off their motif, that’s the moment he’s gone. Like she feels him passing and we feel it through the music. It might not be feasible but could be worth a try.

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#1277474
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The Force Awakens - The Starlight Project
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Geez, Nev, Rey seeing R2 and remembering him from her vision is actually a solid idea. It does make you wonder why they didn’t think to check him earlier, but if feels more natural and a little less convenient than R2 waking up or finishing his data search as soon as everyone is back at the base. And you’re basically addressing this by still keeping the first scene where 3PO basically dismisses the thought (thanks 3PO).

Sure, the scene is a little awkward, but the thing with R2 at least gives it a nice function within the story.

This is another cool alternative it would be cool to get more feedback on. And like you said, what I like about it is that this idea says more about Rey’s actual personality and less on her “special powers”. Too bad we can’t see Rey help R2 wake back up.

Ziggy, that extra bit of dialogue is a good idea! Could fit in when the officer is looking at everything falling apart before he runs off.

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#1277472
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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It also doesn’t look awful on my phone, but this might work if you try to either drop the quality of the rest of the scene a little, or somehow increase it like with what has been done to other deleted scenes. Also if Snooker, or another editor, was trying to make the film’s quality feel more retro across the board, it might help hide the quality difference.

I wonder if you used a new slurping sound effect instead of the one used in the scene, it could help more. Also maybe regarding the scene to match the rest more as well. I think it is a nice moment and it could be worth the trouble to try and make it work.

I would also consider placing the establishing shot of the transport flying through space at the end of this scene rather than the beginning in order to help buffer the transition to the next scene.

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#1277468
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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I’ve seen a few people say they don’t like The Rise of Skywalker as the title. My friends don’t, and I’ll admit I didn’t like it at first either (I was holding out hope for Balance of the Force), but the more I’ve thought about it, the more I actually think it’s really appropriate. Here’s my interpretation:

If you think about it, Luke has really been the focus of the new trilogy, or more specifically, what he and the Jedi represent, which is HOPE.

Leia wanted to find Luke in TFA because she felt he was the key to stopping the First Order, partially because of his power, but also because his influence as the legendary Jedi could sway the New Republic into taking the First Order threat seriously.

In TLJ, Leia and the Resistance were desperate for Luke’s help not only for his power, but also because the Jedi represent hope, and that hope returning could help inspire the galaxy and the remnants of the Republic to unite against the invading First Order.

Even though Luke didn’t rejoin the fight for long, the tale of Luke’s mythic stand against the First Order and Kylo Ren has spread throughout the galaxy, and so the rise of Skywalker’s legend has reignited hope in the allies of the Resistance to also fight back against this common enemy.

It’s likely additional interpretations will be made more apparent once we see the film, as the titles often have, but I’m sold on the title now. For those who aren’t happy with it yet I hope you’ll come around to embrace it as I have. I’m pumped for IX, y’all.

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#1276927
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The Force Awakens - The Starlight Project
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I’ve been away for a little bit, but I’ve been keeping up with your posts and everything keeps looking good. I think a discussion can still be had regarding the Finn dream inclusion, but I think it fits it wonderfully and I like the idea of Rey not answering with ‘Luke’, and letting it be open to interpretation (Luke? Finn? Ben?). I’m wondering how you’ll make a POV shot of Finn’s ship though.

Honestly, I would say you should stick with this idea for the sole purpose of differentiating it from Restructured. Technically it still is the Restructured model, but with a twist. I will say that the one thing this addresses is the complaint of the extended Hosnian destruction kind of detracting from Han’s death scene. I’ve always seen it as a one-two gut punch sorta thing, but pushing the Hosnian destruction back allows for Han’s death to not have to share the spotlight, if that makes sense. I’m sure someone could describe this better than I could at the moment.

With that said, since the ‘Starkiller’ motif starts playing when Han touches Ben’s cheek and as he falls, will you replace the music with something else, or let it play out in relative silence before Chewbacca’s roar breaks it? What about when you cut to Leia’s reaction a little later? Will there be different music? New ambience?

I also like how Poe doesn’t necessarily blow up Starkiller now, but the damage he did triggers it once it fires. It doesn’t make destroying it feel so easy. Also having the Starkiller motif play over the Oscillator blowing up and the planet crumbling makes Starkiller feel that much more powerful, that its cannon is literally ripping the planet apart. And I think this works better than the drawn out Resistance reactions from Restructured in some other ways as well.

I do have a few nitpicks though. One thing I wonder about is how having Hosnian blow up right after Rey’s victory over Kylo, which is sort of the climax of the film (like Luke blowing up the Death Star in ANH), will affect the ‘emotional flow’ of the film. So now the audience is like, “Yaaaaay- oh, wait.” Does that make sense? Maybe we’ll still get that when they escape and Starkiller blows up?

I think there was a similar point of concern with Restructured, which was why having Starkiller target the Resistance Base afterward and then Poe stopping it was retained, right?

Now, if a goal was to escape with the final piece of the map though wink wink nudge nudge, it might maintain some semblance of victory. (Not trying to push that idea on you. The third act map idea might just be what I eventually add to the tapestry of TFA fan edits)

Some smaller nitpicks, I know you had to trim Kylo and Rey’s duel a little because shit starts crumbling around them, but the cut stood out to me and I wonder if there is a way to retain any more of it. Secondly, the wide shot of Rey laying on Finn feels like it lasts too long. I wonder if you could keep the shot of Rey turning off the saber and running into the woods, as well as having the music end sooner, could help not make that shot feel as dragged out. That’s just my own personal feeling though.

There a few issues here and there but I think this could work with just a little more polishing. Great work on this idea, man.

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#1274068
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What can a scientist in my Star Wars fan fic be working on?
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If he is being called to study a (the?) super massive black hole (which normally would be the very big one at the center of any galaxy), then I’d imagine he is somewhat of an expert in astronomical anomalies, maybe black holes, wormholes and hyperspace in particular. Here are a few ideas:

Maybe he is with a research team trying to study the effects of living in hyperspace for prolonged periods of time (setting the groundwork for an eventual extragalactic expedition, possibly).

He could be partnered with some xenobiologists who are following a herd of purgils and trying to understand how they can detect safe hyperspace routes.

Maybe he is sitting on a research station near the Unknown Regions trying to either A) detect the gravitational signs of black holes to help chart those regions, or B) he is trying to find predictive patterns in wormholes that randomly appear and disappear in the Unknown Regions, which make that area of space so hard to travel in.

I know you said no tech, but maybe he could be part of a team trying to develop a ship or station that can produce a concentrated anti-gravity field. The purpose being that it could help temporarily negate mass shadows of large interstellar objects and allow for ships to make shortcuts along various hyperspace routes. It’s basically like a reverse Interdictor in its function. It could be extremely useful for the military, who might want to sneak ships around enemy lines. The ship he is working on could actually be a modified Interdictor cruiser that the Republic acquired from the old Empire. Maybe they are still trying to figure out the kinks, so it wouldn’t be a game changer because it still really isn’t stable or reliable yet.

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#1273967
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Wow, those are perfect. Thanks for the effort, Snooker!

Could you possibly add the X-Wing and TIE Fighter targeting computers to the OT Album sometime when you have the chance? As well as the X-Wing screen when it is showing R2’s dialogue typed out on the screen in ESB when Luke leaves Hoth to go to Dagobah? There is a similar moment in TPM when R2 is talking to Anakin through the N1 Fighter screen, that’s why I ask.

And since you added Rogue One to the OT album, you probably could add bits of Solo at some point to it as well, since the Falcon navicomputer has some pretty old school graphics, as well as the screen showing the Falcon’s trajectory as they’re getting in position for their jump.

Anyway, no rush on those! Just some extra ideas. These albums will be super useful for reference and discussion!