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#1281334
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Lucasfilm's movie plans post Ep. IX
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Some predictions:

We will be seeing tons of articles/YouTube videos talking about how much Rian, Benioff & Weiss’ trilogies will be cinematic failures before they even come out (I personally am a bit skeptical of D&D myself).

Most fans on both sides of the spectrum are going to LOVE The Mandalorian. I think it’ll be so successful Fanvreau and Filoni will be given more future projects. Fans will love these two.

Sorta unrelated, but the new Avatar movies (at the very least Avatar 2) are going to perform exceptionally well at the box office despite some skepticism. General audiences will fall in love with Pandora again like they did in 2009.

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#1281152
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Isn’t Rey’s foolish hope just the lie she tells herself? Like people can be logical but also be illogical when it comes to family or daddy/mommy issues.

It’s possible that the hope of her parents returning was what allowed her to survive for so long. It was her willpower to preservere because of that hope. So she she stayed on Jakku because she thought it was only a matter of time for her parents to come back for her. It could be any day now, so she was waiting for them, because that was what she wanted more than leaving Jakku or being a hero, she wanted to be with her family again.

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#1280905
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General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread
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SilverWook said:

Sounds good to me. I presume the Jedi archives never had all the information, or were badly damaged during Order 66.

Yeah, it is possible that some Jedi before the Empire were trying to find the origins of the Jedi. Presumably the origins of the Jedi were lost to time. I believe in the recent audio drama, Dooku: Jedi Lost, a character refers to the temple on Ossus as the first Jedi Temple, so it does seem the origins of the religion became lost even to the Jedi over the 25,000~ years of their history.

So maybe the Jedi had started the anthropological research for one purpose, the Empire continued it for another, and then Luke and Lor San followed their footsteps.

Obviously this is more of a head-canon than theory I guess, but you could say it is a head-canon that attempts to be grounded in what we know. And it is kind of cool because it has its own story behind it, like it could be covered in a novel or comic.

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#1280893
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The Original Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Man, it’s interesting how much of a difference little details like those make! I really feel like this method could do wonders to just add another layer of detail to the OT, especially for ROTJ I think.

EDIT: To add on to that thought, I think changes like these, and what Ady, Petro, and others are doing, help bring the OT visually more in like with the rest of the Saga. To me, having an edition of these films that brings the OT more visually in-line with the PT & ST, but also making changes that make the PT & ST more in line with the OT as well. Basically, the end goal being that the whole Saga will visually/aesthetically be more in-sync. I think that would be great!

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#1280892
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General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread
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So this has been rattling in my brain for awhile, but I’ve been trying to figure out where the map to the first Jedi Temple actually came from. I feel like we all just assume we know, but if I were to ask you all you probably would give me a variety of answers.

I just wanted to throw out my own, I don’t know, head-canon(?), and see what you guys think.

So, let’s start with what we know.
The Map itself appears to be a map of the entire galaxy, with a golden trail of points that stretches across it (presumably each point is a planet/moon). The Map is separated into two pieces, the greater Map that originates, as far as we know, from the archives of the Empire. Since it was also in R2’s back-up data, and R2 apparently downloaded that information from the First Death Star, we can assume the greater Map at least dates back to the Battle of Yavin.

The lesser Map existed on a data rod, found by Lor San Tekka around 34 years after the Battle of Yavin, and it also contained a golden path of points (stops/planets) that connected to the greater Map and ended at Ach-To, the location of the first Jedi Temple. It seems these two pieces do come from the same data set, since they fit together perfectly like puzzle pieces and the trails also connect.

The lesser Map mostly, if not completely, consists of uncharted systems, so it is basically impossible to interpret without the context of any known systems. So, the greater map is necessary because it provides that context with rest of the known galaxy and as well as the orientation the golden path provides.

Many of us assumed before TLJ that Luke may have left clues to his whereabouts, and that the map was a clue, and the golden path was the route of stops he made along the way, but this can’t work for two reasons: One, Luke did not want to be found, he went there to die, so he would have not left any clues to his location. And two, the greater Map existed before Luke was ever a Jedi, meaning the golden path predates Jedi Master Luke Skywalker.

So this leaves a few questions: Who created the golden path? What do the points on the path represent? Why did the map have a missing piece? There are others but I’ll start with those.

This is my theory.

The Map as we know it dates at least to the Empire’s reign, and it was made by an Imperial archaeologist who was tasked with finding the first Jedi temple.

Each point on the map is some kind of Jedi archaeological site, and the Archaelogist was retracing the “Jedi steps” to determine their point of origin. Basically, the Archaelogist could use clues from each site, in combination with something like radiocarbon dating, to determine the age of each site. If the Archaelogist were to travel from younger sites to older sites, he could determine the direction the Jedi migrated across the galaxy over generations. So, in theory, among all the data points on the map, Ach-To, the last point on the map, would be the oldest location, while the first point on the map would be the latest location. And, like I said, different sites could have different clues, like ancient star charts, items that could only be found on the next planet-point on the map, etc.

The Archaelogist eventually managed to find the first Jedi Temple, but something happened before he could turn in that information. Either he died and his body was never found before he could turn in that final data set, or, he discovered that the Emperor’s intention was to destroy all of these sites, including the first Jedi temple, to erase the Jedi from the galaxy’s history (maybe he knew that from the get-go, but had a change of heart). So, instead of turning the rest of the map in, he hid it. Then the Archeaologist went into hiding, or died, or was killed, basically the Empire never had a chance to extract that information from him.

All of this would have predated the Battle of Yavin.

So, years later Luke and Lor San Tekka discover the greater Map, and go on a journey to find the last Jedi temple themselves, or find the missing piece that could lead them there. However, before this quest is ever complete, Ben destroys Luke’s Jedi Temple. Luke goes into exile and the people who knew him are only left with the knowledge that he was going to search for the First Jedi Temple.

It is possible Luke found the missing piece of the map, but since Luke presumably traveled to Ach-To without an astromech droid, I think Luke used a combination of his existing knowledge, plus allowing the Force to guide him, to be able to reach Ach-To.

Lor San Tekka, on the other hand, continued looking for the missing piece of the Archeaologist’s map and eventually found it, which is where The Force Awakens starts.

Is there anything that would contradict this? Is there a better idea you’ve heard?

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#1280821
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Star Wars: Remastered - A New Special Edition
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emanswfan said:

ForceGhostRecon said:

I’ve edited/cleaned up Scene 38 for anyone interested:

https://vimeo.com/335231783

That’s a hell of a lot better. Just needs some color grading adjustments to both the new and original footage, to get it to fit together and up to standard. That blu-ray footage looks god-awful, I wish the original guy had at least regraded it.

Still, I think if it were to be put into the the actual film, I would still tone down the over the top elements of the new footage.

You’re making me think some of this might be useful for an edit after all.

It is a pretty cool fan film, but I don’t think this could be seamless at all with the existing footage. Maybe two or three shots (Obi raising his saber to his face, the quick Obi spin, Vader killing Obi), but it still would stand out like a sore thumb imo.

At least for this Remastered edit, I think at most he could modify the existing footage. Maybe he could add blue/red saber glows to the duel, more cuts on the walls, maybe the nearby damaged lights could flicker off to make it look a little more dramatic, maybe he could add the saber reflection in Vader’s eyes when he says “You should not have come back”.

If the intention is to make some dated parts of the film be more appealing to a modern audience, those might be ideas that could be implemented without just totally replacing big chunks of original footage.

While Petro is replacing original ship special effects with new visual effects, I think it still works because there is a clear separation between space and non-space shots.

But he may want to use that, or he’s mainly focusing on just the ships/lasers and stuff.

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#1280342
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Lucasfilm's movie plans post Ep. IX
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OutboundFlight said:

Concerning Lucasfilm- I am annoyed they are stuck to Star Wars. I know this is an unpopular opinion for a star wars site… but George Lucas created his two big franchises from nothing. Why does his company have to stick to just Star Wars? Why not make a new franchise and market it as the “third Lucasfilm property” alongside SW and Indy?

I agree with this! I mean I’m all for more Star Wars and Indy, but why not play around with some brand new potential IPs? Something fantasy, like a new Willow? A pirate film based off the Monkey Island games? Or something totally new.

I think a motto Lucasfilm could stick to would be the reason why Lucas wanted to make movies like Indy or Star Wars in the first place. They were inspired by the kind of stories he had growing up that he felt kids in the 70s-80s needed. There are so many types of movies now, but maybe Lucasfilm could try to fill a creative void for something we’re craving that we don’t even realize yet.

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#1280341
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The Force Awakens - The Starlight Project
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Nev, I like the ending shots! Good idea to use that extra shot to make it fit with the music. Totally dig it.

I wonder if there are some effects you could add to the “dream shots” that wouldn’t be over the top. Throwing out ideas, what if you played with the stuttering frame effect of the Dagobah cave, or the wispy vignette of Anakin’s ROTS dreams?

So in a hypothetical TLJ edit for you, you might have Rey reach the Jedi Village, then she’d hear the hut door slam maybe? Having Rey dream of an idealized Luke at the end of TFA, but then our first real intro to Luke is him holding himself up in his hut like a hermit, you’d still be getting that subversion Rian wanted without being beholden to how JJ ended TFA.

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#1280265
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Yeah, JJ was pretty up front about meeting with George. Now, it was probably just one meeting, but probably enough to discuss the script and George’s general idea of what themes he thinks are important to close out the trilogy. I picture something like one of those discussions Lucas would have with Filoni and the Clone Wars writing team.

Obviously George had discussions with JJ and Kathy on TFA. At least the first few months of pre-production when he was somewhat involved with the Visualization stage, and then overtime the film became a little more nostalgic as production continued, which George didn’t like. But certain ideas of his were carried over.

In the TLJ doc, we hear that George met with Rian during the pre-production phase of the movie, but there’s no telling how much was discussed and how much of their meeting was actually about the movie itself.

All the filmmakers have definitely talked to Lucas though. It’s a pipe dream but I would really like to get ‘Making Of’ books down the road so we can learn the deets on the trilogy’s development.

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#1280219
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The Force Awakens - The Starlight Project
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That is a serendipitous coincidence that the dream could fit there. I do think this version is pretty vague to work as-is. I think people might be confused and not immediately realize it is a dream.

It’s a challenge. To play devil’s advocate (like I have been doing to you a lot lately! Sorry if it is becoming annoying!), I think the more that is added, the more you’re spacing out the climax from the end of the film, and I think ending would work better if we were moving more briskly from Starkiller blowing up, to the Resistance Base, to the ending. On the other hand, it might work for your version though since you’re cutting the Jedi Steps (at least physically).

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#1280008
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YouTube/Vimeo/etc... Star Wars finds
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NeverarGreat said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5b0cxF8HOE

Love this channel, and this video in particular. I’m sure some fanedits could use these models to great effect.

I love EC Henry. Such a genuine guy who is clearly passionate about the content he shares with his channel. This particular video is great, I agree. I feel like those particular models could be used to either to replace the blurry models in some kind of remastered edition, or potentially to supplement the fleet’s size in certain ROTJ shots maybe.

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#1279991
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Star Wars Books continued ?
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At first I thought the Resistance Reborn novel was going to be a young adult novel, but it actually listed as an adult novel. Which makes me think the content will be a little more substantial.

The comic run about Leia trying to recruit Mon Calamari to the Resistance sounds pretty interesting too. If you’re a Mon Calamari fan, you should definitely get into the comics. There was an arc in the Darth Vader comic about the Empire attacking Mon Calamari right after the end of the Clone Wars, then in the Star Wars run there was an arc about the planet joining the rebellion shortly after a New Hope. So those two arcs, plus this new arc, we’ll have three glimpses of Mon Calamari during each trilogy, and how this one planet played a major role in the power dynamics of the galaxy.

I hope overtime we’ll get plenty of content that takes places in this new time period. I want to spend time here, where we can see how Kylo Ren rules as Supreme Leader, fighting a resistance movement led by his own mother.

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#1279846
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General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread
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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

https://youtu.be/fmm9_lBEnOk

I normally don’t watch SW animated shorts, but i read about this one on another forum. Published yesterday. Lapti Nek! (And, I think, a representation of the reasonably sized palace door from the OUT Jedi.

Holy crap, the way it zooms in on 3PO at the end. That actually made me laugh! I really like these little shorts, and Jabba was genuinely creepy in it too.

Which version of Lapti Nek is that?

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#1279512
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The Force Awakens - The Starlight Project
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This is cool! I’m digging the nighttime matte you’ve made.

What you’ve done so far is impressive work, although I’m still not 100% sold on the Rey/BB-8 stuff, but it could be my own bias. Unrelated to the vfx work so far, I guess it doesn’t feel totally like it actually fits in with the movie yet. Like it isn’t completely seamless logically.

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#1279511
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Star Wars: Remastered - A New Special Edition
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That shot definitely has a modernized vibe without sacrificing the practical effects! Pretty cool!

How would say your Remastered will differ from Adywan’s Revisited? Just different personal interpretations? I know you mentioned earlier that you don’t want to change that much, but you will be updating the special effects. I guess I’m curious in more of the changes/ideas you have for your edit.

Anyway, really liking the look!