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#1421198
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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I think the dialogue discussions are interesting, but could be moved over to the General thread, rather than all of these discussions happening on Ascendant in particular. Especially since they’re more speculative, rather than serving some goal that has already been set for Ascendant.

I actually went back through parts of the film recently and took some notes regarding potential dialogue changes, so I’d be interested in joining the discussion over on that thread.

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#1421195
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<strong>The Bad Batch</strong> (animated series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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While it has never been a big deal to me, I hope they do go into what exactly to happen to all of those clones after the war ends. We know some clones stay active duty for some period of time after the war ends, but we know the stormtroopers are mostly recruits towards the beginning of the Galactic Civil War. So do they just continue to serve in different ways? Do they retire on Kamino? Are any of them euthanized?

It would be cool to see that transition happen, too. To see clones serving alongside recruits.

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#1421161
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<strong>The Bad Batch</strong> (animated series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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I love how people don’t like Omega already. It’s the same type of fan who hated Ahsoka and Ezra, but then they grew up and they love them. It’s like they lack the self-awareness to realize they’ll probably love Omega by the end of the series too, if she grows in a similar way to Ahsoka and Ezra.

She’s the character I’m actually the most interested in. So she is a clone of Jango, but with two XX chromosomes instead of an XY. It’s a really cool idea I had never even considered before. Her perspective and place in the galaxy will be fun to explore.

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#1420993
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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ThisIsCreation, your alien dub sounds good! Like Faraday said, we have been discussing the puppet show stuff today, ironically enough, so this comes at a good time. I’m gonna send you a PM!

Jar Jar Bricks said:

I could check out the 5.1 audio to see if the original voice can feasibly be removed.

Will you let us know when you find out about this, Jar Jar?

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#1420756
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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DominicCobb said:

NeverarGreat said:

Sure you could do all that, but if you draw even more attention to that problem people will wonder even more why the Falcon couldn’t just hover down to land like it does any other time. The SFX shot would have to convey that the blast hit a repulsorlift, making the Falcon lose altitude in that shot before limping out of the hangar.

Poe’s line about the landing gear and the shot of Rey opening a wire panel are both so brief that they’re hard to register, so when you see the image of the crash landing you’re kinda like “what?” Literally anything that would show it visually take damage would work.

Maybe as the stormtroopers are blasting away at the Falcon, one of the shots could have a bigger explosion on impact, implying that it hit something important.

I think you also show the engines blinking out as the flies toward Kef-Bir/Endor, implying they had to just sort of glide the rest of the way to the surface. It would help show why they literally crash landed, rather than just land gently without using the landing gear.

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#1420613
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The Force Awakens: Starlight (V1.1 Released!)
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Damn, that is some fine work, Nev. Seeing this finalized shot really sells your intent with this whole idea of Rey wanting to leave with Finn. Hell, her saying “I’m leaving” works even better with this new context! And adding her running around looking for Finn in the vision is gonna sell this idea even more I think.

I think it is great as is. I do wonder if flipping the shot of the ship might work better with the eye line though. Rey is looking toward the right, so I feel like it would flow nicely if the ship was on right side of the frame instead of the left. Showing the ship from the opposite angle as before might also help unconsciously show the audience how Rey and Finn may have missed each other. Does that make sense? Haha. I had that thought of flipping the shot the first time I watched the clip, but I didn’t think about it as much after. So I think it is fine as-is too. Also, I think the volume of the voices is fine! Just another layer that helps sell the moment.

The tracking device thing sounds good too! I’m glad to see you back working on this project. I remember when we first were brainstorming the idea for the tracking device “light”. Feels like forever ago.

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#1420566
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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According to the old, leaked shooting schedule for TFA that was floating around the internet a few months before it’s release, there did seem to be a planned shot of young Ben with Snoke, in some shape or form. So you’re that probably was intended to be a young Ben.

The shooting schedule also mentioned shots of Leia and Han sending young Ben away with Luke, Ben training with him, and then leaving the Luke’s training temple. I don’t know if these were ever shot, though.

Regarding Hal’s edit, though, I think it is pretty much finished, so I think any big suggestions should be left for general edit threads for this film.

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#1420565
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Just a little update on the puppet show: I just finished up on a project I’ve been on for the past several months, so I can get to work on the puppets guilt-free now. I was hoping to see what snooker came up with first, since I have a feeling that I will actually prefer whatever she invents, but I might go ahead and cook up something in the meantime.

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#1420542
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Direct references to the PT that were made in Disney’s ST
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This might not count, but Rian Johnson said that the overheard shot of Kylo Ren and the stormtroopers waking into the Rebel base on Crait was inspired by the overhead shot of Anakin and the clones marching into the Jedi Temple in Revenge of the Sith.

There are also some musical callbacks to the prequels. In TFA, the track “Finn’s Confession” is reminiscent to “Talk of Podracing” from TPM.

In TLJ, the track “Old Friends”, which plays as Luke and Rey are entering the cave with the Prime Jedi mural, plays a variation of the mystery motif from Attack of the Clones. You can hear this motif in the “Mystery of the Clones” track from AOTC, for example.

For a more straightforward callback, there is a battle droid in Babu Frik’s droid shop in TROS.

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#1420535
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Unpopular opinion: I'm glad Palpatine's return wasn't set up in TLJ.
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I’ll be honest with you, man, I think you’re bending over backwards a little bit to find more intent in on-the-fly story decisions than there really was. I think it is less that Palpatine’s return was meant to come out of nowhere, and more so that it just conveniently worked out that way, at best.

Also, you could say the Opera scene could retroactively set up that Palpatine had hidden knowledge of cheating death, but at the time ROTS was made, you could equally say that Palpatine was just lying to Anakin about knowing the secrets to cheating death in order to manipulate him into doing his bidding. It is just retroactive foreshadowing.

That doesn’t make it a bad thing, though. Like any potential “hints” that Vader was Luke’s father in the original Star Wars could also be called retroactive foreshadowing.

Again, I totally see your point by saying it actually works out better that Palpatine’s return is a surprise in IX. I actually think I agree with you to an extent. But I think it is wrong to say that is was meant to work out that way. Clearly is wasn’t always the plan to bring back Palpatine, so if you feel like the reveal works out better not set up in previous films, I think it is just serendipitous and convenient, rather than intentional.

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#1420532
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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TestingOutTheTest said:

RogueLeader said:

Honestly, when they filmed all of this, I don’t think it was originally meant to be Mustafar.

But you can come up with some Watsonian answer for it regardless. Maybe the cultists put it in the forest for some religious purpose.

Apparently it was always meant to be Mustafar. (The opening section of this script looks like it was somehow actually ripped from the real one.)

This version of the script is just based off the final film. Not earlier drafts. For example, there seems to be no deleted scenes in this script, like the deleted Oracle scene, or Kylo interrogating Chewie.

Anyway, not really important at this point.

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#1420297
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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I think you would be better off replacing it with a different, legitimate explanation, rather than something that turns out to be a lie in the third act. Whether it be that Kylo reveals he or Palpatine also saw the vision of Rey on the dark throne, that she actually killed her parents, etc.

Also, how would you reveal to the audience that it was actually a lie? New dialogue from Palpatine?

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#1420135
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The Rise of Skywalker Expanded Edition by Rae Carson: The Faraday Edit (WIP)
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Yeah, both the planet and the moon are both called Endor, as well as both suns. This is head canon, but I like to think explorers saw the Endor moon as the primary point of interest in the system, so they named that moon first and then named its planet and stars after it.

You might already know this, but the Emperor referring to Endor as the Sanctuary Moon is actually a byproduct of early ROTJ drafts, where Endor was originally a moon that orbited the the Imperial Capital of Had Abbadon (what eventually went on to become Coruscant). So, it was sort of a nature sanctuary that orbited the polluted, planet-wide cityscape of the Capital. So you kinda had this nature/technology contrast that George likes so much.

More head canon, but I like to think they dubbed Endor “The Sanctuary Moon” because explorers saw it as a paradise, and perhaps the Republic declared it a protected world, off-limits to development or colonization. So the name describes the the habitability or pleasantness of the world.

Maybe to contrast it, Kef Bir could be referred to something like “The Tempest Moon” to describe its violent winds and dangerous oceans. This powerful weather led to Kef Bir being a less preferable world to visit compared to its forest counterpart. Perhaps to give some credence to this name, Kef Bir’s weather could play a role in causing the Falcon to crash land on the planet. This would also be a nice way to parallel Shakespeare’s play of the same name. Since many people think of the play when they hear the word tempest, it might help add to those mystical connotations you were looking for in a potential name.

EDIT: Adding onto that, perhaps Jannah and the other stormtroopers also crash landed on Kef Bir. This could be why Jannah offers him a piece of their own ship, since it was beyond repair anyway. Maybe they were trying to flee from the First Order after their desertion, and while the violent weather of the planet made following them undesirable, it led to them being stuck there. Despite that, maybe they kind of don’t mind it, because it has kept them out of the First Order’s grip.