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#1376906
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The Force Awakens: The Starlight Project - (WIP) <strong>WORKPRINT RELEASED</strong>
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Hmm, I don’t think there are enough shots to really make this work. Plus, the additional Rey dialogue doesn’t really sound like it fits into the ambiance of the environment. I understand what is going on based off of your explanation, but I think it wouldn’t be totally clear without that context.

I wonder if you could do a similar thing as you’ve done in a past attempt, where you went from:
Rey’s Intro
Poe Interrogation
Rey Meets BB-8
Finn Rescues Poe

You could try that order again, but have Rey meeting BB-8 occur the next morning, which could be established with some kind of dawn establishing shots and a different color grade.

I know I’ve probably suggested this before and you probably had a good reason for this not working. But I wonder if you could just combine Poe’s Interrogation and Finn’s Rescue, and since we’ve removed Kylo’s line, “I leave that to you”, we could now have Ren say, “We have what we need” or “We have what we need from him”. And maybe add some sinister music over that line and Hux’s expression. That way, when it cuts to the stormtrooper entering and say Ren wants the prisoner, it leads the audience to believe Poe is about to be executed.

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#1376005
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The Force Awakens: The Starlight Project - (WIP) <strong>WORKPRINT RELEASED</strong>
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I just had the random urge to check the threads tonight, and seeing a new clip from you was a very pleasant surprise!

I think taking a break from working on this has helped a lot. This is by far the best iteration you’ve done so far. Each scene flows nicely into the other, and I can’t even notice the seams of the cuts. And the way you connect each consecutive scene makes it arguably an improvement over the theatrical. As far as the scene order goes I have nothing to add.

Also, you might’ve done this in a previous version, but did you have the lights turning on in the hangar, prompting Rey to hide? That addition just makes the logic of everything make so much damn sense, that it’s kind of unbelievable it’s missing from the original. Really like the new stormtrooper chatter too.

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#1375829
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<em>REY NOBODY</em> - The 'Official' Fan-Editing Thread
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Yes! Our conversations inspired me to try to approach it with more simplicity than I was before.

I’m glad to hear that! I love a lot of the choices you’ve made so far with yours, so I’d be excited to see you play around with it more. I’m planning to work on the Force bond duel next week, so maybe that’ll inspire more conversation. I think the main difference of my approach is that I’m removing any reference to Rey’s parents or Palpatine wanting to find/kill her as a child. I’m going to try and keep the scene length/pacing the same, but I want to shift Rey’s emotional tether from what happened to her parents in the past, to what will happen to her friends in the future. We’ll see how that turns out.

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#1375139
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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This is very interesting! What surprises me about some of things you have noticed is how a lot of the errors that were made seem so lazy. Perhaps there was a lot of work to be done, and some errors unintentionally fell through the cracks. It just surprises me how even the newest official release suffers from these kind of flaws. You would think they would put in the appropriate time and effort to do these films justice.

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#1374188
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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I mean, if you think about it, what does them being child soldiers add to the narrative (not what they hypothetically add, but actually add to the story), that them being regular recruits doesn’t? It was an interesting idea, but they never actually explore it, so much so that you could likely remove it and lose very little to their story.

Again, if anything, it would add more nuance to the story, because it gives Finn and Jannah more agency. They chose to leave the First Order, but only after choosing to join it. Their shame of being stormtroopers is even more justified, in this instance, because they have to accept they made a mistake.

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#1374167
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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This is an idea that will probably require some clever editing, but I’ve been thinking about what the benefits could be to not making the First Order stormtroopers be kidnapped children.

For one, I feel like there really isn’t a proper resolution to this plot point in TROS. Finn and the good guys seem to lack any self-awareness or concern that they’re killing what are basically child soldiers. Making this change would make the lack of resolution in TROS not feel as disappointing, because I think the writer’s desire to make Finn and Jannah as innocent as possible came back to haunt them in a way.

The movies really bend over backward to absolve Finn (and Jannah) of any responsibility for being one of the bad guys. They were kidnapped as children, indoctrinated their entire lives, and in Finn’s case, he never even really killed anyone before he went AWOL (the same may be true for Jannah).

Yes, Finn is a stormtrooper, but in actuality he barely was a stormtrooper. In fact, he barely even acts like someone who was indoctrinated their entire life. We never even see Finn have to unlearn the propaganda that has probably been hammered into him over the years.

The stormtroopers not being child soldiers also makes our heroes killing them without remorse a little less questionable, especially in Finn’s case. Plus, I feel like if Finn and Jannah joined the First Order voluntarily, and then realized it was a mistake, it is a much more nuanced way to portray them as stormtroopers-turned-rebels. This touches on a larger subject I want to eventually explore in a discussion thread, but I like the idea of our heroes all having made mistakes in the past, or even have blood on their hands, but them accepting that their mistakes don’t dictate their future and who they are. And I think having them not be stormtroopers by choice takes away from the decision to make them stormtroopers in the first place. Redemption, forgiveness, and second chances should have been central to this trilogy, and unfortunately they didn’t fully commit to these themes.

Again, this will require a number of clever changes, but I wonder how differently our perspectives would change on the trilogy with this change implemented.

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#1371303
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Sequel Trilogy Rescoring Ideas Thread
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I have to say I like it too in the sense of it not trying to be as emotionally manipulative. I didn’t necessarily mind the use of the Star Wars theme, but I feel like that rendition feels generic and not as powerful as the renditions from the original trilogy.

I would honestly like to see what the scene feels like if we just try and used a version of the track from the original trilogy (or prequel trilogy credits) as performed by the London Symphony Orchestra. I just don’t think the music in the ST is performed, or maybe mixed, as well as the music from the other trilogies. So perhaps the scene would work better if we just used a different version of that theme.

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#1371092
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
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EC Henry made another fun video making up an original TIE fighter design based off a slightly different, and obscure, model used in ROTJ. It could be nice to make an alternate version of the TIE/X-Wing shot with this design. This way you could keep the imagery, but the TIE doesn’t look exactly like the typical TIE fighter, leaving the possibility open that this fighter could have light speed capabilities. I like the shuttle version too, of course.

It would be nice to throw it into a ROTJ edit to set it up and add another interesting ship to the movie, but that’s a story for another thread.