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#1066357
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Celebration 2017 Speculation
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Darth Cracker said:

SilverWook said:

Maybe he’s someone we should tweet at when we do the open letter thing?

Good idea.

And has anyone here got the mad skills to repurpose the Rogue One trailer so that it depicts a rag-tag team of rebels trying to steal the Original Theatrical cut from the Evil Empire? That might go viral! 😄

I was thinking how ironic it would be if the entire production for Rogue One was just the pretext for Edwards to infiltrate Skywalker Ranch and copy the O-neg scans for the fans.

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#1066019
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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flametitan said:

Lord Haseo said:

flametitan said:

Lord Haseo said:
You don’t think he can adopt a philosophy of “Use your inner darkness to best your enemies but don’t let it envelope you for too long”? Also what’s to say that Luke didn’t take bits and pieces of philosophy that Dark Siders hold dear and use them to bolster his new philosophy?

To me? No. Again, I still see the Dark Side as the malignant tumour on the energy field that life creates. It is not a difference in philosophy; it is the manifestation of the emotions behind bigotry and oppression. Being “A little dark” is akin to being “a little evil.”

We all harbor some amount of taint inside us. Luke would no doubt accept that and try to use his for the betterment of the Galaxy. The nature of these base feelings doesn’t matter so long as the outcome is good.

The Force is not a tool; it is not just a means to an end. It is the very thing that brings life together. Using the corruption of the energy created by life to protect life is hypocritical at best.

This will quickly get into deep epistemological distinctions about good and evil, but to me, since the Force is an energy field created by life, all the processes of life forms feed into this energy field. This includes both the ‘nice’ emotions such as happiness and serenity, but also the ‘ugly’ emotions like fear and anger and apathy. As someone who has dealt with apathy in the past (‘what’s the point, nothing can get better’), often in order to rise out of apathy one must become aware of fear (‘I actually can affect this situation, and the situation is scary’), accepting it in order to rise through that through anger (‘I hate that I’ve let things get so bad’) and into happier emotions. This is what I imagine Luke going through in ROTJ.

My point is that these ‘ugly’ emotions exist in the real world for a reason. They’re not aberrant or unnatural, and to turn them into the equivalent of sin is a very religious, very Jedi, thing to do. The natural state of someone in command of the light and dark sides of the Force would, I expect, be a very serene and happy person on the whole, but it doesn’t mean they couldn’t get mad or fearful. It’s a gradient, not a black and white distinction, and I don’t think that a grey Jedi or the equivalent would use both sides equally. To dip into Eastern religion, someone using the Dark Side would be rather unenlightened, whereas someone using the light would be more enlightened. A good Jedi teaching in an Eastern mold might be that anyone who uses the Force is a Jedi, but the use of the Dark Side momentarily masks this Truth. That is how I choose to interpret Luke’s assertion after he throws aside his lightsaber.

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#1065982
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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flametitan said:

NeverarGreat said:

flametitan said:

NeverarGreat said:

Loved the trailer, basically confirms that Luke is abandoning the Jedi for a balance.

Not sure how I feel about that. I actually really disliked how Legends started to take “balance” literally, and that the Jedi and Sith were merely philosophical differences, rather than how the Dark side was a tumour on the Force originally.

There’s no denying that the ‘Light’ side of the Force has issues as well, which is why it was only by recognizing the Dark Side that Luke was able to prevail in Jedi. The Jedi’s prohibition against some emotions and the dogma that they are impossible to overcome once indulged in was shown absolutely to be false. I for one appreciate the new direction this is taking.

But the Jedi Dogmatism was supposed to represent corruption in the Jedi (If we are to believe Lucas, who has had issues representing what he actually meant in the Prequels). The default state of the Jedi was supposed to be much more benevolent, but at some point they literally forgot their connection to the Force to use it as little more than a tool. Using the RotS novelization as a reference, Obi-Wan points out how the Jedi council in ages past didn’t bicker, but rather let the Force guide them to an answer, hinting that the Jedi lost their way.

In Jedi, that sequence was anything but Luke prevailing by channelling the darkness. If you look beyond Luke kicking Vader’s ass, the set up is that Luke lost control of himself because of Vader’s words getting to him; the music turns ominous, representing Luke going against what he stood for; and finally, when the fight ends, Luke is absolutely horrified at what he did. It wasn’t a triumph by finding “balance” between light and dark, it’s despair as our hero verges on becoming the monster he fought.

I guess this scene could mean something different for everyone. What I got from it was that Luke had previously been afraid of the Dark Side, of fear and anger themselves, due to Yoda’s teaching. Yet when he snaps and uses his anger to overcome Vader, he is working through the pent-up emotion and destroying the false serenity of his Jedi facade. Yet since he doesn’t suppress the Light Side of the Force, he isn’t consumed with the Dark Side but allows it to eventually pass out of him. When he regains his composure he recognizes how the Dark Side was able to corrupt Vader with hopelessness and fear, anger at his weakness, etc. Luke has no fear of fear itself, no further anger at his use of anger, and is truly at peace in the moment that he tosses away his lightsaber.

Again, that’s just my opinion of the scene. It’s certainly possible to read this as Luke conforming entirely to Jedi doctrine, but since he had already started down the dark path and was able to return, one of Yoda’s teachings at least was proven to be false.

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#1065969
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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flametitan said:

NeverarGreat said:

Loved the trailer, basically confirms that Luke is abandoning the Jedi for a balance.

Not sure how I feel about that. I actually really disliked how Legends started to take “balance” literally, and that the Jedi and Sith were merely philosophical differences, rather than how the Dark side was a tumour on the Force originally.

There’s no denying that the ‘Light’ side of the Force has issues as well, which is why it was only by recognizing the Dark Side that Luke was able to prevail in Jedi. The Jedi’s prohibition against some emotions and the dogma that they are impossible to overcome once indulged in was shown absolutely to be false. I for one appreciate the new direction this is taking.

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#1065850
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Something I’d love to see in The Last Jedi is the death of Snoke.

Hear me out. So say Snoke was from a very powerful, Machiavellian, Force sensitive alien race that basically ruled the universe, but he himself was rather weak in the Force. He tried to gain power in a reputable galaxy but was almost killed in an assassination attempt and fled to a garbage galaxy bereft of a strong government in order to regain his power.

Near the beginning of TLJ, Snoke’s would-be assassin has caught up with him and finishes the job. Realizing that the galaxy is in danger of learning the true nature and power of the Force, he deems it necessary to subdue this upstart galaxy.

The plot of the next two movies would center around the two factions (Republic and First Order) coming to grips with the fact that they are small fish in this pond, and working together to destroy this threat.

And yes, this is all because I dislike the idea of Snoke being the Big Bad. It’s just such a stupid name.

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#1065548
Topic
Celebration 2017 Speculation
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So I pulled some screenshots of the Carrie Fisher tribute to see if they had changed the Star Wars scan or whether it was the old lowry one, and it looks to be the same:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/206546
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/206547
The slight color differences between the two shots are well documented elsewhere and are probably the result of a LUT created for online presentation of the Blu-ray.

Interestingly, the center of the final shot was brightened for some reason. I would say it was because of Carrie Fisher, but all three of the leads have brightening applied to their heads. Very curious.

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#1065276
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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Here’s the full quality X-wing approach shot that I partially fixed months ago. Now the blast wreckage is almost gone and the weapon nozzle has been further cleaned up:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/206515

https://mega.nz/#!qZNzDaiY!2JwOqIjiRtiqTugy5XISdIB0gGXdh4wZqKX-i3jfn6w

JEDIT: This is version 5, not 4.
Further JEDIT: I forgot that Sir Ridley already de-wrecked the shot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGXof4rOHbk&feature=youtu.be
I wouldn’t mind if those planet textures were integrated into the new shot 😉

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#1065017
Topic
TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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^Excellent! Now we just need that deleted scene…

Sir Ridley said:

Progress! Here’s the latest version of the Maz’s castle sequence. Thoughts?

https://youtu.be/TqZeT7FN0c0

Since Rogue One just came out on Blu-ray, I thought that there might be a Star Destroyer-over-Jedha sound effect that could be used for the two effects shots, since it seems strange for Finn to be reacting to something so silent.

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#1064952
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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SilverWook said:

NeverarGreat said:

SkyderHouseMafia said:

It’s rough but here’s a very nice video on how a Rogue One crawl could have looked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa-gaZLbeg0

I can’t listen to it with the sound on at the moment, but just by looking at the text I’m glad that particular crawl wasn’t in the movie. What a jumbled mess. The final paragraph is almost comically long, and the whole thing is peppered with sudden shifts from active to passive voice, baffling word choices, improper comma usage, and confusing exposition.

Sounds familiar…

The only difference was that I wasn’t struggling with basic comprehension of that crawl.

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#1064910
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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SkyderHouseMafia said:

It’s rough but here’s a very nice video on how a Rogue One crawl could have looked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa-gaZLbeg0

I can’t listen to it with the sound on at the moment, but just by looking at the text I’m glad that particular crawl wasn’t in the movie. What a jumbled mess. The final paragraph is almost comically long, and the whole thing is peppered with sudden shifts from active to passive voice, baffling word choices, improper comma usage, and confusing exposition.

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#1064905
Topic
TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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DigMod said:

I watched the Snap scene and found it a little confusing visually. The first time through my eyes told me the old man was speaking, then the second time my eyes told me it was Han. as far as the mix, it seems like the voice is a little too upfront and needs a longer fade in and fade out to make it more seamless. Not sure this line is needed though, but I’m sure there is a logical reason 😛

I feel like a mention of the Republic is extremely necessary here because in this edit the Republic still exists at this point. Up to this very moment in the movie, the Resistance hasn’t decided whether or not to attack the base, since in the (hopefully) reinstated scene of Sella, Leia has asked the Republic for help. In this scene, we are reminded of the Republic’s continued refusal to communicate or help, and so it is only at this point that Han suggests the Resistance go it alone.

I further tweaked the lip movement and refined the audio for this scene. Now 3PO has a line from the deleted scenes (‘Oh my, this is a catastrophe!’), and I found a shot of BB8 from later in the scene that I think does a better job covering Snap’s line. He actually turns to look in the direction of Snap, which is fortunate. The reaction shot of Poe is now where BB8 was, and also fortunate is the fact both shots are the same number of frames. There is a slight continuity issue where the guy explaining the oscillator jumps position around Poe, but it’s blink-and-you-miss-it.

Video:
https://mega.nz/#!OI8iwQyT!xdsb9t6FoixQruTWkoDPmd-MihYr-rG2gUSQHFDztTQ

Audio:
https://mega.nz/#!iYVC2DTI!GhXuAs7MCEzxfYJTqE7NFWbUJl9pqGIoUbD53ShejLo