Hello OT community,
I haven’t posted much here on the Original Trilogy board, but I wanted to share information about an edit I am working on over at fanedit.org, Star Wars: The Force Awakens Specters of the Past (Prolonged Reveal). As the title suggests, the main changes of this edit are to prolong the reveal of Kylo Ren’s parentage, similar to but different than TK251’s edit that I recently became aware of. Along with the delayed reveal I also wanted to reinstate some OT sfx to the Falcon chase scene inspired by Joshua Harris’ amazing edit of the same idea, augment scenes with composited fx (holograms), add music to increase emotion in certain scenes (Hux speech, Catwalk scene, the duel), and remove minor dialogue and shots that just didn’t feel like Star Wars to me.
While some editors have opted to remove all references to Ren’s father, I have chosen to use such lines to misdirect the first-time viewer in hopes that the viewer will begin to think that Ren is infact Luke’s son. I remember sitting in the theater wondering why Abrams and LucasFilm felt the need to reveal so much, so quickly. This is the film I would have prefered. To sell the misdirect various omissions of dialogue were made between Han and Leia and conversations between Ren and Snoke were abreviated.
Another major change in this edit is the removal of the island ending. The final scenes of this edit are Rey and Chewie entering into hyperspace to find Luke. Knowing that Rian Johnson will begin the movie with these clips, I’m not worried about a gap in trilogy narrative, nor am I worried about not seeing Luke at all in the movie. I elaborate on the reasoning for this edit further below in the edit list.
The edit clocks in at 2:08:04 (including custom title cards and intros) cutting approximately 10 minutes from the film in total.
I’d love to read your feedback on the edit list below and any pointers you may have for a novice like myself 😃
I will have a preview file ready for viewing in the coming day(s). If you are interested please send me a pm.
Source: Official BluRay ripped to lossless AVI and wav files
Edited using Sony Vegas Platinum HD 10.0
Release TBD July/August
Anticipated release formats 20-25gb BR; 15gb 1080p MP4, 8gb 720p MP4
View the Trailer here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuEMFMoy76s
Draft of BR case
The Edit list:
- Added New Fanedit.org title card based on current logo
- Added custom ROTJ style disclaimer
- Added DigModiFicaTion Logo
- Added Custom Walt Disney 20th Century Fox title card with 20th Century Fox fanfare
- Replaced opening crawl music with opening crawl music from Episode IV
- Replaced crawl with custom “Heir to the Force” crawl
- Removed Poe’s “so who talks first…” lines
- Clipped Poe’s line as he is forcefully picked up, now it sounds like he was going to start saying something but the jolt of being hoisted up stops him.
- Replaced Video when Kylo Ren says “put him on board”; Video is a slightly cropped/zoomed shot where Kylo Ren is standing still vs the movement in the theatrical cut
- Removed Kylo Ren’s “comfortable?” line and Poe’s response during Poe’s interrogation scene
- Transition to next scene before Unkar Plott pulls down the window on his other customers
- Cut Poe and Finn’s conversation after Finn says “Because it’s the right thing to do”
- Removed Finn firing on and killing Stormtroopers and the traffic control room
- Cut Finn and Poe’s celebration after blowing up a turret
- Cut Kylo Ren saying “FN-2187” (even for a Sith lord, that is unbelievable)
- Moved “Sir, ventral cannons hot” further up in the audio mix of the scene and cut the Star Trek-esque turret scene down. Now they just fire
- Cut the tie fighter blowing up after sinking in the sand
- Cut Finn’s “this is what we look like, some of us” lines
- Cut Rey’s “No” when responding to Finn’s “You ever fly this thing?” line
- Cut Finn and Rey’s “I can do this” lines when they first get into the Falcon
- Removed the Falcon taking a nose dive into the sand upon take off
- Cut Rey’s line “I’m going low”
- Replaced new Millennium Falcon turret sfx with OT turret sfx in chase scene
- Replaced audio of Finn cursing after the impact with a grunt (yes I know the originals had cursing, but this is just a personal preference)
- Cut scenes of scavengers when the first tie fighter is shot down
- Cut the JJ Abrams zoom when the Falcon flies into the downed Star Destroyer’s engines
- Cut Finn and Rey’s excessive teenage celebration after they make it to space
- Reworked scene in order to remove Kylo Ren’s tantrum when the officer reports on not getting the droid
- Cut Finn’s line “you got a boy friend?”
- Cut scene of Finn childishly pushing down on Rey’s head
- Added Red Gradient glow to mimic the overhead light and connect the edited scene visually
- Cut down the Rathtar scene; Han and Chewie run down a corridor, they turn, Chewie is hit, hand blasts the raiders, Rey and Finn pop up from the hatch, Han shoots the door and yells “come on!”
- Cut mention of Han Solo and the Millennium Falcon from Snoke’s dialogue
- Added hologram effect to Snoke
- Added Darth Vader breathing sfx when his mask is revealed
- Cut down Chewie grabbing Finn and Finn saying “but that’s ok”
- Added lightsaber sfx and enhanced (echo & reverb) Vader lines “You are not a Jedi yet” and “You don’t know the power of the dark side” along with the Emperor’s laugh to Rey’s force vision
- Added SWTFUII Terror on the Salvation cue to Hux’s speech
- Cut Han’s no look shot and use of Chewbacca’s crossbow and subsequent “I like this” line
- Cut the continuous pan of Poe’s X-Wing flying, now cuts to Rey right after Finn blasts the second Stormtrooper.
- Cut Han’s lines about seeing their son; he now says "I saw him, he was here”
- Cut Poe’s references to his jacket when talking to Finn
- Cut scenes with the nurse and Chewbacca
- Added R2-D2 visually to the checking the map sequence; also added Artoo beeps and sad sounds; he is now seen, heard, active and present
- Cut BB-8 R2 scenes with and dialogue about R2
- Edited Han to say “I know everytime you think about Luke you’re reminded of him”
- Cut Leia’s lines about their son’s training, Snoke, and Han being able to help because he’s Ben’s father
- Cut Kylo Ren’s “your my guest” line, now he just coldly stares at Rey
- Repurposed shots of helmeted Kylo Ren to take place of close up shot so his face.
- Added mask to Kylo Ren on far shots.
- Added subtle audio of Vader breathing when Rey reveals that Kylo Ren is afraid and the connection is severed
- Repurposed shots (cropped and speed) during Snoke conversation as to have Kylo Ren hooded and masked.
- Digitally painted hooded and masked Kylo Ren into the far shots when Hux is walking away.
- Removed Han’s “so it’s big” line
- Removed Han’s “there’s always a way to do that” line after asking how to blow it up. Removed Leia’s “Han’s right” line
- Removed Leia’s lines about bringing their son home; inserted shot of Han’s face when she would have been talking
- Horizontally flipped the scene where the stormtroopers are looking for Rey and everyone is obviously left handed
- Cut scene where Han asks Finn what his job was and their verbal altercation; it’s a gag to set up a later gag and slows down the movement of the narrative
- Cut Finn’s “you remember me” lines and scene with Phasma; took Han’s advice and brought it down 😉
- Cut Rey crawling into the space that soon will squash her; now she just begins to descend down the wall
- Cut Finn threatening to blow Phasma’s bucket off
- Reinstated the Kylo visits the Falcon deleted scene (cropped out timestamps) and added the “The Bombing Run” cue from the FYC version of the soundtrack.
- Cut Finn’s lines about not being ready and his head nod “what’s that” lines
- Added a combination of the cue Finn’s Trek and Finn and Poe Reunited from the FYC Star Wars TFA soundtrack along with the Han and Leia cue
- Added The Force Unleashed (Infiltrating the Junk Temple) during Finn and Kylo Ren’s duel
- Removed the ground ripping apart separating Rey and Kylo Ren; superimposed same shot of Rey and Kylo Ren when Rey shuts down her light saber looking across ravine at Kylo Ren. Now the two cropped images meet removing the gaping hole.
- Cut first order officer going AWOL, the scene cuts to Hux and Snoke before the officer speaks
- Added hologram effect to Snoke
- Cropped video to exclude Chewbacca from the background when Leia walks towards Rey; we can imply that Chewbacca hugged her or whatever
- Leia’s hug with Rey stays; it’s easy to explain, Leia knows how much Han meant to her, “Han told me about the girl” (Rey) and she (Rey) needed that one person who understood to be there for her
- Cut 3P0’s line “R2-D2 you’ve come back!” when approaching R2; he now says “Come along you two” (taken from the 2016 Oscars speech)
- Edited 3P0’s lines to say “Artoo may contain some much needed good news” instead of “Artoo D2 may…”
- Cut 3P0’s line “how I’ve missed you”
- Cut scenes of Rey arriving on planet to find Luke; I used the force theme from the end of the movie to make the famous iris ending and fanfare occur right as the Millennium Falcon enters hyperspace; also added various sound effects for the Millennium Falcon, crowd, and Chewbacca during takeoff
The reason for this particular decision was to mirror the OT in how they end. The OT trilogy ended two ways, a victorious celebration (IV and VI) or an adventurous plan set in motion (V). Showing Luke at the end of the movie is like showing scenes of Han frozen in carbonite in the trunk of Slave I. The scene with Luke doesn’t really advance the story and it removes the sense of episodic closure the OT accomplished with each episode. We know that there will be a Star Wars VIII, we know that Luke will be in it, we didn’t see Luke the entire movie, why not just wait? He was in the movie to sell the movie. I’m already sold on the movie, so out he goes so that we can focus on Rey, Ren, and Fin.
- Revised “edited by” credits to add Fanedited by DigModiFicaTion
- Added “A DigModiFicaTion” after “A Bad Robot Production”
- Added Fanedit.org logo, DigModiFicaTion logo, and special thanks section to credits
Original Run Time 2:18:06
Edit Run Time 2:08:32
Special Thanks to (in no particular order):
zarius, ssj, Smithers, ironman23, Canon Editor, revel911, Kexikus, That OT Ruler, Force Ghost Recon, Imperial Fighter, RogueLeader, Original Trilogy Fan, Moe_Syzlak, Thecuddlyninja, ThrowgnCpr, LastImpressions, TM2YC
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