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- #1065321
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- Using Star Wars quotes only...
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1065321/action/topic#1065321
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Just a little higher!
Just a little higher!
I also LOVE the score.
Agreed. That so many find it underwhelming perplexes me.
Anything compared to a John Williams score is bound to sound at least a little underwhelming.
I thought the score was quite good for the amount of time required to make it.
Here’s the full quality X-wing approach shot that I partially fixed months ago. Now the blast wreckage is almost gone and the weapon nozzle has been further cleaned up:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/206515
https://mega.nz/#!qZNzDaiY!2JwOqIjiRtiqTugy5XISdIB0gGXdh4wZqKX-i3jfn6w
JEDIT: This is version 5, not 4.
Further JEDIT: I forgot that Sir Ridley already de-wrecked the shot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGXof4rOHbk&feature=youtu.be
I wouldn’t mind if those planet textures were integrated into the new shot 😉
^Excellent! Now we just need that deleted scene…
Progress! Here’s the latest version of the Maz’s castle sequence. Thoughts?
Since Rogue One just came out on Blu-ray, I thought that there might be a Star Destroyer-over-Jedha sound effect that could be used for the two effects shots, since it seems strange for Finn to be reacting to something so silent.
Now that’s more like it. 😃
It’s rough but here’s a very nice video on how a Rogue One crawl could have looked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa-gaZLbeg0
I can’t listen to it with the sound on at the moment, but just by looking at the text I’m glad that particular crawl wasn’t in the movie. What a jumbled mess. The final paragraph is almost comically long, and the whole thing is peppered with sudden shifts from active to passive voice, baffling word choices, improper comma usage, and confusing exposition.
Sounds familiar…
The only difference was that I wasn’t struggling with basic comprehension of that crawl.
It’s rough but here’s a very nice video on how a Rogue One crawl could have looked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa-gaZLbeg0
I can’t listen to it with the sound on at the moment, but just by looking at the text I’m glad that particular crawl wasn’t in the movie. What a jumbled mess. The final paragraph is almost comically long, and the whole thing is peppered with sudden shifts from active to passive voice, baffling word choices, improper comma usage, and confusing exposition.
I watched the Snap scene and found it a little confusing visually. The first time through my eyes told me the old man was speaking, then the second time my eyes told me it was Han. as far as the mix, it seems like the voice is a little too upfront and needs a longer fade in and fade out to make it more seamless. Not sure this line is needed though, but I’m sure there is a logical reason 😛
I feel like a mention of the Republic is extremely necessary here because in this edit the Republic still exists at this point. Up to this very moment in the movie, the Resistance hasn’t decided whether or not to attack the base, since in the (hopefully) reinstated scene of Sella, Leia has asked the Republic for help. In this scene, we are reminded of the Republic’s continued refusal to communicate or help, and so it is only at this point that Han suggests the Resistance go it alone.
I further tweaked the lip movement and refined the audio for this scene. Now 3PO has a line from the deleted scenes (‘Oh my, this is a catastrophe!’), and I found a shot of BB8 from later in the scene that I think does a better job covering Snap’s line. He actually turns to look in the direction of Snap, which is fortunate. The reaction shot of Poe is now where BB8 was, and also fortunate is the fact both shots are the same number of frames. There is a slight continuity issue where the guy explaining the oscillator jumps position around Poe, but it’s blink-and-you-miss-it.
Video:
https://mega.nz/#!OI8iwQyT!xdsb9t6FoixQruTWkoDPmd-MihYr-rG2gUSQHFDztTQ
Audio:
https://mega.nz/#!iYVC2DTI!GhXuAs7MCEzxfYJTqE7NFWbUJl9pqGIoUbD53ShejLo
It’s cool right now to hate on Finn, but without him, the movie would be rather…rudderless. * ducks *
Looks like the Empire got to it.
They arrived just before you did.
Are you sorry?
He should be. And I’m sorry too.
I’ll give it a go later and see if it’s possible 😃
Looks like the Empire got to it.
Especially if that’s the case, it wouldn’t do anything to merit any of the chipper attitude at the end. All it’d do is offset the ‘revenge’ motive for the trench run, and even then it wouldn’t since the fighters would be unaware.
Maybe the dialogue between Hux and Snoke could be considering their next target, just enough to imply that it’s important this thing be destroyed.
Although, having the base about to fire again would address the apparent “problem” (only for those very aware of the theatrical version in which one star equals one shot) of SKB exploding into a star after it had discharged.
I think that if the audience is aware of the threat to the Resistance with the Snoke dialogue and the inclusion of ‘Prepare to fire’, the revenge aspect of their attack is pretty much mitigated. If the audience understands that the base can fire several times from a single charge, we could infer that the pilots at least suspect that possibility as well.
So after watching this again, I’m wondering if the ending would have been better had Fin died. Probably not a popular opinion, but it would have been a powerful event for his character, and I’m struggling to think of what kind of unique role he could play in the rest of the trilogy. His arc seems kind of complete already.
Not a crazy proposition. This thought has crossed my mind many times since I first saw it.
It really depends on Rey’s arc. He could be used by Kylo just as Luke was lured by his friends in Empire, or the opposite could happen, though that has already been done.
Or rather, since Finn began the humanization of the Stormtrooper, he could attempt to rescue others from the First Order en masse through the use of Resistance propaganda. That would be my vote.
I’m sure the master tape will turn up in the basement of Skywalker Ranch someday. It’s probably in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet, stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying Beware of the Wampa. 😉
Well obviously, that’s their display department. It’s sitting right next to the discarded bits of the original Star Wars O-neg and a paint sample from the Death Star walls.
These rearranging ideas all sound kind of fun on paper but I don’t think I’ve seen anything that works in practice.
I’m still of the belief that the way to save the trench run is simply to make it seem like the weapon is going to fire again, this time at the Resistance base.
Yeah, for every 5 ideas only one works out it seems.
But your idea might work. Although we can’t use any of the Resistance base scenes, it may be possible to cut together the unused Hux/Snoke dialogue. Since it would be extremely difficult to use the Resistance base dialogue on the subject, the implication would be that the fighters are just fulfilling their original objective, unaware that the station is able to fire again.
A video about the music
Very interesting!
Are these clips available anywhere?
Her: It doesn’t feel like rock.
Him: There’s an awful lot of moisture in here.
Her: I don’t know, I have a bad feeling about this.
From Force for Change’s website:
"Following the release of Star Wars: A New Hope in the late 1970’s, fans began to embrace Star Wars stories of struggle, hope and inspiration on a more personal level. Philanthropy was very important to George Lucas — he used early screenings to raise money for charities around the world with a particular emphasis on children’s healthcare and education. Over the course of the last three decades, Star Wars fans have kept this philanthropic spirit alive by volunteering their time to countless charities across the world and raising millions of dollars in donations.
With new Star Wars stories on the horizon, Star Wars: Force for Change aims to support the immense passion and goodwill of our fans and promote change through inspiration, stories and meaningful partnerships."
1: "You’ll want to be a part of this Force"
2: "40 years in the making"
3: Daisy Ridley and Mark Hamill (Star Wars Sequel tie-in)
My prediction is that it will be something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfNiC9iKM0Q
No, no problem. Why?
^Very good. I retract my vote 😃
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A new attempt at a climactic resolution, with bare bones audio as usual:
https://vimeo.com/212513029
Password: Split Wing
With the moving of the Starkiller ignition, first time viewers may be wondering where the X-wings are as the base prepares to fire. In the original version the absence of the X-wings was justified because they arrive later and save the day, but in V1 they are MIA, and in fact they have allowed themselves to be drawn far away from the Oscillator.
Here I attempted to give them one last bombing run before the station fires. Some VFX of missiles could go a long way towards selling this part, and the placement in the Oscillator scene could change. I merely put it there because it was almost exactly 2 minutes from ignition.
After the unsuccessful bombing run, I think it would make sense to have the sound of bombs impacting the Oscillator as Kylo and Han converse. After the ignition the X-wings presumably retreat (Perhaps they think the Starkiller is a one-trick pony), which is where we find them when Chewie blows the charges. Poe decides to go back and finish their job.
The final X-wing run is the one I like the most, since it cuts the interior of the Oscillator entirely to give a moment of suspense where it isn’t clear if Poe survived.
Don’t do that again.
“It’s the First Order” alone makes sense, and since “they’ve found us” is rather obvious, I would vote for losing that part, especially since the dub isn’t seamless.
The firing scene has several problems, including the fact that the planet shouldn’t be in sunlight at the time. So there are at least 3 shots that need fixing at some point.
Rewatching the scene in V1, the only shot that looks like it could use some work would be the one with the trees. But it’s only daylight for less than a second before the red beam envelopes everything. Are you perhaps thinking the planet shouldn’t have as much light shining on it when we see it from space?
Yeah, I have actually just done that shot:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/206094
The planet originally had the sun shining on it, so it should definitely be darker in the two other shots as well.