MrBrown

Stamper said:

Doh, I have the full screen DVD converted to 24fps if you want

 hanks, but I already have a safety PAL Copy of the Full Screen Version, but I try to get it for my DVD Collection on the Shelf as an original DVD.

I checked out the Full Bit Rate DTS Track from the japanese DVD. And it really sounds more powerfull. I cannot check if it is indeed a full Bit Rate Version, or just "upscaled", but it sounds better and more powerfull than the normal Dolby Track on that disc...

After getting Terminator 2 Japanese DTS (PIBF-91219) DVD I am still in search for a russian Full Screen DVD. But nobody at eBay seems to sell one of those old russian releases... :(

@metal_havy: I don't think that anyone will have that old TV broadcast. Also it was more censored than the old German DVD.

Anyone know how the 4 Disc Live Home Video Edition of T2 looks?

5 Sides Movie 2 Sides Making of in a grey Box. Seems to be released 1991.

There seem to be two different German DVDs (well, three, if I count the Renegade Version in a Highlander 4 Movie Box, that only has german subtitles, and was as add on to the Highlight DVD Version in that box), if I read the ofdb.de Information correct.

One with German 5.1 and 2.0 Audio and Running Times: 93:35 Min. (88:41 Min. w/o Endcredits) from Arcade Video/ Highlight

The other with German 5.1 Audio and Running Times: 95:56 Min. (91:04 Min. w/o Endcredits) from Concorde

Maybe the Concorde release is the same Version as the Italian release. (The italian VHS is stated to have a running Time of 96:10 Min. With studio logos and such it could fit to the Concorde DVD release...

Running times and Audio Format infos taken from ofdb.de.

kaosjm said:

MrBrown said:

So.. a japanese Terminator 2 DVD just arrived. Not the one with the Full Bitrate DTS track, that shall arrive someday in October.

well.. I have to admit: I got that old japanese THX certified DVD release "PIBF-1001" in CD jevel Case... and I wonder if it differs in Color from the US Live DVD. But: The DVD is still sealed! Damn!

 I have PIBF-1001 if you need me to check anything out

Do you know if the colors are the same as with newer releases, or if they used an older master with different colors?

metall_havy said:

Hi

Maybe someone has the Italian highlander 2 dvd 94 minutes?

Too bad it has only italian audio.

It seems to be the only version known to be the european non english theatrical Version. The german theatrical release and DVD seems to be based on that, but is censored serveral minutes.

The french DVD from TF 1 is stated to have a running time about same time as the UK disc, and is stated to be in Full screen, as far as I can read the miniature picture on amazon.

The Widescreen release seem to be the Renegade Version.

Edit: Found an image of the backside of the french US theatrical DVD, and it states widescreen. Could not read the other picture well enough.

ETQ06213 said:

The first laserdisc issue of Paul Verhoeven's "Total Recall" was open matte, reportedly at the director's request. The original R1 DVD release contains a full frame version.

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 Do you have a link to the edition? I have the Full Frame Image LD, but that seems to be just matted 1.33:1 :(

So.. a japanese Terminator 2 DVD just arrived. Not the one with the Full Bitrate DTS track, that shall arrive someday in October.

well.. I have to admit: I got that old japanese THX certified DVD release "PIBF-1001" in CD jevel Case... and I wonder if it differs in Color from the US Live DVD. But: The DVD is still sealed! Damn!

dark_jedi said:

RayRogers said:

Didn't VidJunkie and TeamBlu already release a T2 custom Blu-ray?

Yes we did, we did 1 for T1 and T2.

 ...and both are really great Versions and Release.

metall_havy said:

MrBrown said:

metall_havy said:

MrBrown said:

Uhm.. the seller states this in the headline "F/S" (I read it as "Full Screen". But interpretating the backside I would assume it is normal WideScreen. Also compared with the japanese Wide and Full Screen LD release Backsides and OBIs I cannot find any "Full Screen" clue on the coverimages at ebay.

Anyone know anything? it is a bit expensive to blind-dip it...

EDIT: ...nevermind the blind-dip part. I just realised it was sold while searching the web for informations on that.

EDIT 2: Comparing with backsides from other japanese Temrinator 2 releases it seems to be a widescreen Version. The Writing under the 16:9 Logo (was an indicator, but without any more information it also can be used as an "here is the box for the aspect ratio information) is the same as on the backside of another release explicitly stated as 16:9 widescreen...

 teatrical cut

There is a similar issue,but pal 131min

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 Russia seems to be the only (PAL) Region that got the Movie on Full Screen DVD.

To bad I can't find the russian DVD on eBay. Would be something nice to put into my DVD shelf.

 I know where to get it. There are several.

 You have an eBay link? Or a reliable store link? I really would liket to get it as retail disc.

Maybe I have the Japanese PIBF-92119 DVD with the Full Rate DTS Track here next Month.

Wich tools would be best to compare the Track with other releases, regarding the sound mix?

Also I can try to bring some scenes to youtube for others to check...

Edit:

btw, the first (known to me) french DVD was from 1998. Stated to contain a 2.0 and a 5.1 Track in english.

What Mix is to be expected here?

metall_havy said:

MrBrown said:

Uhm.. the seller states this in the headline "F/S" (I read it as "Full Screen". But interpretating the backside I would assume it is normal WideScreen. Also compared with the japanese Wide and Full Screen LD release Backsides and OBIs I cannot find any "Full Screen" clue on the coverimages at ebay.

Anyone know anything? it is a bit expensive to blind-dip it...

EDIT: ...nevermind the blind-dip part. I just realised it was sold while searching the web for informations on that.

EDIT 2: Comparing with backsides from other japanese Temrinator 2 releases it seems to be a widescreen Version. The Writing under the 16:9 Logo (was an indicator, but without any more information it also can be used as an "here is the box for the aspect ratio information) is the same as on the backside of another release explicitly stated as 16:9 widescreen...

 teatrical cut

There is a similar issue,but pal 131min

 Russia seems to be the only (PAL) Region that got the Movie on Full Screen DVD.

To bad I can't find the russian DVD on eBay. Would be something nice to put into my DVD shelf.

Uhm.. the seller states this in the headline "F/S" (I read it as "Full Screen". But interpretating the backside I would assume it is normal WideScreen. Also compared with the japanese Wide and Full Screen LD release Backsides and OBIs I cannot find any "Full Screen" clue on the coverimages at ebay.

Anyone know anything? it is a bit expensive to blind-dip it...

EDIT: ...nevermind the blind-dip part. I just realised it was sold while searching the web for informations on that.

EDIT 2: Comparing with backsides from other japanese Temrinator 2 releases it seems to be a widescreen Version. The Writing under the 16:9 Logo (was an indicator, but without any more information it also can be used as an "here is the box for the aspect ratio information) is the same as on the backside of another release explicitly stated as 16:9 widescreen...

TServo2049 said:

That's the full-screen Image release we discussed earlier. It's mono, it's not time-compressed, but I don't know anything else about it beyond that.

 Ok, thanks.

So I have to check it out myself, as soon as that Disc arrives.

Mabe it is the fake stereo, too, but without speedup...

Anyone know what this LaserDisc release is like?

Never saw it at ebay before...

Stamper said:

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It would be awesome if you could make available a capture with the image, so that one can sync the audio back to the Blu-ray and pitch it back at the correct speed, it would be cool to have this weird mix preserved forever. It's part of Terminator history.

 If you know someone able to do that... you got a PM.

So, I uploaded the Thorn EMI / HBO Temrinator Intro Sequence at Youtube.

MrBrown said:

Stamper said:

Since the LD tracks are analog, a simple analog capture probably will be sufficient. However to track it and sync it, the video, even in low res, will be needed.

Curious to hear that mix/fix which is now lost in time.

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Edit: Anyone an easy to follow hint how to resync Audio and Video? I think the Audio is about a half a second behind the video in the final file. :(

Never mind. It was easy with VCL as a help to check how many miliseconds the audio was off, and MKVmerge to remerge the MKV.

Stamper said:

Since the LD tracks are analog, a simple analog capture probably will be sufficient. However to track it and sync it, the video, even in low res, will be needed.

Curious to hear that mix/fix which is now lost in time.

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At the Moment I am trying to rip the Thorn EMI/HBO LD to my PC.

The Sound of the Disc is not the best. could be my player, could be the age of the Disc and some scratches. But at the Moment It seems as if I get two Video Files (one for each side)... I will compress the video, but I do not know how well the complete files will be. But If I am finished I will check how to make them accessible to check it out.

Maybe I can upload a short sample to youtube upcoming week.

Edit: Anyone an easy to follow hint how to resync Audio and Video? I think the Audio is about a half a second behind the video in the final file. :(

Too bad, the japanese DVD of Romeros Dawn of the Dead is only widescreen. Japan seems only got the Argento Version in Full Screen. :(

MrBrown said:

So, regarding Zombie - Dawn of the Dead:

Here are some caps of the Full screen Argento Cut DVD from Holland.

And day of the Dead:

From the old Full screen French DVD...

 So, for the moment last.. but IMO not least:

Screenshots from the Dark City 4:3 US DVD release.

So, regarding Zombie - Dawn of the Dead:

Here are some caps of the Full screen Argento Cut DVD from Holland.

And day of the Dead:

From the old Full screen French DVD...

Wow.. the second one ( http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/138929 ) is really impressive.. I mean, hey.. this guy has pores! :)

Leonardo said:

Edit: I notice the color difference in the reinserted "clean" part of the image. Seem to be a slight notch lesser bluish/greenish than the rest.

 Yeah, about that. Do you have any suggestions? I've seen people messing around in Matlab lately, to automatically color match different sources, but I know nothing about the program. Methinks I should ask around.

Sorry, no Idea on that. You may mess and try around, and then take snapshots and fiddle with the colors to check if you notice such odd things, like you see on the coller messed I showed. Or you try with one frame until you find the best match and then try to apply the color correction settings on tha movie parts.

Really looks great.

Even if the font on the reference Image seem a bit more heavy. But this might just occur because of the image quality and such.

Edit: I notice the color difference in the reinserted "clean" part of the image. Seem to be a slight notch lesser bluish/greenish than the rest.