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#936445
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Info & Discussion: Fullscreen Laserdisc / DVD Preservations
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I just got First Blood part 2 Full Screen DVD.
Starts widescreen letterboxed, and after Credits zoomed in. So, no more Informations on top and bottom.
I think this will be the same for the first and 3rd Rambo Movie.

Does anyone know which Nightmare on Elm Street Movies are avaible open matted on 1.33:1 Full Screen DVDs?
Only the 1st and the 2nd?

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#927564
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The Terminator (1984) - Original Theatrical Mono Preservation (Released)
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crissrudd4554 said:

All I know off hand was there was a German DVD of T1 with the ratio 1:66:1 but other than that all DVD/BD releases of T1 and T2 have the theatrical aspect ratios as far as I know. I never actually checked on this.

Also there is an old German Television Broadcast of T1, that was heavily censored, that was 1.33:1.

And there are some older russian T2 Theatrical Cut DVD releases in 1.33:1 Full Screen with lesser information on the sides, but more on top and bottom.

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#904926
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The Terminator (1984) - Original Theatrical Mono Preservation (Released)
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ElectricTriangle said:

Working Links:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iDjFsZ2L78
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxgkkJOEHS4

Very well to spot difference between this two: The sound of the door hitting the outside part, when the Temrinator leaves the Station to get his car… on the “VHS” Version it seems to be real stereo, coming from the left speaker, and sounding different.

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#901355
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Help: looking for... 'Army of Darkness' and other Various Cuts
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benduwan said:

can anybody tell me the difference between this two versions:

http://www.amazon.com/Army-Darkness-Collectors-Edition-Blu-ray/dp/B0112HPSXI

http://www.amazon.de/Die-Armee-Finsternis-Ultimate-Blu-rays/dp/B00BGSI408/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8

i own the german koch media version.
is in the US version some stuff that isn´t in the german one?

and does anybody knows which german bluray from evil dead 1 (tanz der teufel) is the best version (with many extras)?

thanks to all movie experts

First: There is no official German Evil Dead (Tanz der Teufel) BluRay release. The Bootleg only contains the Movie in Widescreen and 4:3 pillarboxed. As Bonus just an audio commentary and a 18 minute featurette.

Second: The US Army of Darkness release seem to have some quite different master for the international Version and the US theatrical cut: http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x=588&y=225&d1=6714&d2=6708&s1=63326&s2=63237&l=0&i=1&go=1 The german is like the french one.

Also, if I read the backsides from the two releases, it seems as if the US has a new feature length documentary “Medieval Times: The MAking of Army of Darkness”

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#894302
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The Terminator (1984) - Original Theatrical Mono Preservation (Released)
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Ronster said:

Much to my horror I put my terminator DVD in the player just now and was horrified… I have not watched it in ages but I thought I upgraded to the 2 disc special edition digi-pack. Perhaps in terms of picture but I was gutted that I have this crap sound mix on my DVD.

I’m going to have to hunt down the old version again now!

It’s totally different gun sounds and different levels of different sounds and so on.

I think the UK version that had the original mix or Mono converted stero mix was the one where there was writing on his sunglasses If I recall not just the red dot.

That Hong Kong Disc seems have the mono:
http://www.yesasia.com/global/the-terminator-1984-single-edition-dvd-hong-kong-version/1004000066-0-0-0-en/info.html

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#890870
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Info: The Look of Terminator 2
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So, I just got the japanese PIBF-1001 DVD from Terminator 2.

First of all the movie is split in two sections on one side. Seems to be splited where the layer break is.

From first viewing through some scenes, I would say that is is color wise not different from the US release, but I could be wrong. At least the difference is not noticable during first checking out and remembering the color of the US discs…

Edit: Just Checked both japanese DVDs side by side: Both have the same Video Master.

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#881863
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The Terminator (1984) - Original Theatrical Mono Preservation (Released)
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thxita said:

MrBrown said:

thxita said:

I remember reading that the 5.1 mix of Terminator was not the first attempt by Cameron to “better” his 1984 low budget movie. Does anyone remember which other home video versions had alteration prior to the 5.1 DVD in 2001?

There was a LD with the so called Chace Fake Stereo Mix.

http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/30336/2535/Terminator-The

Some Discussion on that mix occured here: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Look-of-Terminator-2/id/17850

Edit😄iscussion regarding the fake Stereo Mix (it is indeed Mono, but altered) starts at page 6.

Is it fake because it’s just a double mono or did Cameron attempt to make further changes to the original sounds? Were sound effects changed only for the early DVD “remastered” audio?
I’m trying to make a timeline of the main audio changes and I remember somebody saying (not sure if here or elsewhere) that Cameron’s tinkering started already in the 90s when he was clumsly trying to give Terminator a better audio than the original flat “mono”

The fake Stereo LD was befor any DVD release. It is not just a double mono. Indeed it is true mono on the disc.

Maybe the Quote from the fanres-forum by jerryshadoe answers some questions:

[jerryshadoe said:]
The mix is different in volume of sfx and dialog (seems much more pronounced) and, at times the sfx are timed +/-10ms different, plus there is some extra dialog heard here and there in the background (in the police station mainly) but it is definitely NOT a stereo mix, even a fake one. On numerous occasions I have seen fake stereo achieved by delaying the right track (in reference to the left one) by 5 to 10 ms, but this is not the case here. Also, the waveform for both channels is identical. Therefore, this LD is merely a different version of a mono mix

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#881825
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The Terminator (1984) - Original Theatrical Mono Preservation (Released)
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thxita said:

I remember reading that the 5.1 mix of Terminator was not the first attempt by Cameron to “better” his 1984 low budget movie. Does anyone remember which other home video versions had alteration prior to the 5.1 DVD in 2001?

There was a LD with the so called Chace Fake Stereo Mix.

http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/30336/2535/Terminator-The

Some Discussion on that mix occured here: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Look-of-Terminator-2/id/17850

Edit😄iscussion regarding the fake Stereo Mix (it is indeed Mono, but altered) starts at page 6.

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#881386
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Conan The Barbarian 1982 US Theatrical Edition & BONUS! *RELEASED*
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mastayoda said:

Is there any way to get my hands on this anymore? Gods I have just watched my German “special edition” DVD and I am dying for a blu ray theatrical cut. I refuse to accept the princess version of Conan. I just spent two hours but there is no torrent no nothing to find anymore. I searched the usenet a little but I found only single parts. I will seed this to a filehoster if anyone makes it available to me. Or I could help muxing a German audio track, if anybody wants it. Or eat my old DVD. This version should not fall into (even more) obscurity!

Teile der Antwort könnten Sie verunsichern. 😄

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#794242
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Info: Terminator 2 - in search of the theatrical sound mix...
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Danfun128 said:

ffmpeg for audacity is what you need

Windows: http://lame.buanzo.org/#lamewindl

Mac: http://lame.buanzo.org/#lameosxdl

Also, I know it's the wrong franchise, but

Banners that look like BIG GREEN DOWNLOAD ARROWS are usually MALWARE.

"Let that child alone" *rimshot*

 Thanks. Got it. Now I have to figure out how I use, what audacity shows mehr.  :) to Bad I cannot load the dts and the ac3 at the same time Info audacity. My PC has to less free disc space.

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#794072
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Info: Terminator 2 - in search of the theatrical sound mix...
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hairy_hen said:

That sounds like Dialog Normalization at work.

Because of it, the whole Dolby track will be turned down in the receiver by a certain amount (most likely 4 dB), and it makes it seem less powerful than it actually is.  The speech itself will be perfectly audible in both cases, so we don't notice during times when not much is going on, but since the peaks in the action scenes are noticeably lower, this will deceive the listener into thinking that it is less good.  Also, due to the Fletcher-Munson effect, our ears suck at hearing bass at low volumes, so we think one version is mixed with less bass, while in reality the actual amount may well be the same.

Unfortunately, DialNorm cannot be defeated by the end user, so these sorts of volume discrepancies during playback are unavoidable.  Combine that with our natural tendency to believe that louder is better, and we can convince ourselves of all kinds of things.  If you have a receiver that specifies how much DialNorm offset is in the track (I have a new Marantz that does this), that can help with making a more accurate comparison.  This can at least help make it possible to distinguish how much of what you're hearing is due to the mix itself and how much is just because of the playback level being turned down.

 Does a free and small software read the DialNorm Value?

Is there any noob way and easy software to compare the different channels? I don't even find something that could decode the dts track to show it like a wavestream.

If you don't have the dts track yet, and want it to analyse, give me a pm, at least it is easy to demux the DVD into dts file.

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#793468
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Info: The Look of Terminator 2
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Stamper said:

Doh, I have the full screen DVD converted to 24fps if you want

 hanks, but I already have a safety PAL Copy of the Full Screen Version, but I try to get it for my DVD Collection on the Shelf as an original DVD.

I checked out the Full Bit Rate DTS Track from the japanese DVD. And it really sounds more powerfull. I cannot check if it is indeed a full Bit Rate Version, or just "upscaled", but it sounds better and more powerfull than the normal Dolby Track on that disc...