MrBrown

EJones216 said:

MrBrown said:

EJones216 said:

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“Reservoir Dogs” (1997 DVD-- not the 2002 which is completely pan-and-scan) appears to be a straight unmatted transfer, although both the 4x3 and letterbox transfers are overcropped on the left side (running comparisons to the 2002 DVD, it appears the 1997 transfers (which might have been the same ones made for LD and VHS) were done to Academy measurements rather than Super 35, but regardless is another unmatted DVD at your disposal).

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Wew… the old Disc has a really lot more Image information, compared to the new 4:3 Full Screen Version after 2002.
Seems as if the 1997 US DVD was released 2002 in canada, because my double side canadian DVD, I snatched at eBay has in its credit printings on the packside “printed in canada 2002”.

Edit: Regarding Reservoir Dogs, again: Seems as if the French Metropolitan Coffret Collector 3DVD Edition from 2004 also has a open matted Version, Showing even mor as the old Artisan US Disc. It is in PAL and Region 2:
NTSC FS: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xabplkqo25nlj5o/Reservoir Dogs US.png?dl=0
PAL FS: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2krygari89bufmk/Reservoir Dogs FR.png?dl=0

Wow, I did not realize they released FS DVDs in European countries that recently. Learn something new every day-- a shame about the blown-out highlights (I have seen a 35mm print of “Reservoir Dogs” in 2008, which looked closer to the green tint than the 1997’s reds, but it was much more subtle on the print. I remember being surprised at how good it looked considering it was a Super 35 optical blow-up, having seen a print of “Independence Day” the week before which was typically murky). How does the WS framing compare on the PAL versus the 2002 NTSC’s WS?

I do not know, but I check next time I am near my DVD Collection (maybe next weekend).

EJones216 said:

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“Reservoir Dogs” (1997 DVD-- not the 2002 which is completely pan-and-scan) appears to be a straight unmatted transfer, although both the 4x3 and letterbox transfers are overcropped on the left side (running comparisons to the 2002 DVD, it appears the 1997 transfers (which might have been the same ones made for LD and VHS) were done to Academy measurements rather than Super 35, but regardless is another unmatted DVD at your disposal).

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Wew… the old Disc has a really lot more Image information, compared to the new 4:3 Full Screen Version after 2002.
Seems as if the 1997 US DVD was released 2002 in canada, because my double side canadian DVD, I snatched at eBay has in its credit printings on the packside “printed in canada 2002”.

Regarding “First Blood”: the Full Frame version is widecreen letterboxed in the opening credits, and after that P&S. No matting opened. As the second movie. I thing the third one will be exactly that way, also.

Edit: Regarding Reservoir Dogs, again: Seems as if the French Metropolitan Coffret Collector 3DVD Edition from 2004 also has a open matted Version, Showing even mor as the old Artisan US Disc. It is in PAL and Region 2:
NTSC FS: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xabplkqo25nlj5o/Reservoir Dogs US.png?dl=0
PAL FS: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2krygari89bufmk/Reservoir Dogs FR.png?dl=0

Vouka said:

MrBrown said:

Vouka said:

MrBrown said:

Does anyone know which Nightmare on Elm Street Movies are avaible open matted on 1.33:1 Full Screen DVDs?
Only the 1st and the 2nd?

All of them.

Damn… 😄 Need to keep looking for them.

It’s online on myspleen. All 7 parts 😃

That does not fit into my habbit of collecting DVDs. 😃

Also, being from Germany, it is not very safe to use somekind of torrent, so I use it only if it is really neccessary, to get something NOT avaible on original DVDs/BDs, and as seldom as possible.

Vouka said:

MrBrown said:

Does anyone know which Nightmare on Elm Street Movies are avaible open matted on 1.33:1 Full Screen DVDs?
Only the 1st and the 2nd?

All of them.

Damn… 😄 Need to keep looking for them. And as being from germany, the postage ist sometimes more then the actual discs, if I locate one at eBay.

I just got First Blood part 2 Full Screen DVD.
Starts widescreen letterboxed, and after Credits zoomed in. So, no more Informations on top and bottom.
I think this will be the same for the first and 3rd Rambo Movie.

Does anyone know which Nightmare on Elm Street Movies are avaible open matted on 1.33:1 Full Screen DVDs?
Only the 1st and the 2nd?

I just ordered the Full Screen DVDs of Nightmare on Elm Street 1, Nightmare on Elm Street 2 and First Blood 1 - 3…

Regarding robocop: I do not know if there is a DVD (I am searching, also), I only know that there exists a Russian languages full screen and, I think, open matted version somehow. I think it is the r-rated cut. I do not know if it is a DVD rip, or where the video is coming from.

Ryan-SWI said:

Nope, only 1 - 6.
Deathly Hallows 1 and 2 didn’t get the FS treatment.

Were 1-6 open matte? So: are there more image information on top and bottom?

crissrudd4554 said:

All I know off hand was there was a German DVD of T1 with the ratio 1:66:1 but other than that all DVD/BD releases of T1 and T2 have the theatrical aspect ratios as far as I know. I never actually checked on this.

Also there is an old German Television Broadcast of T1, that was heavily censored, that was 1.33:1.

And there are some older russian T2 Theatrical Cut DVD releases in 1.33:1 Full Screen with lesser information on the sides, but more on top and bottom.

Even if it is not an recreated score, but a new one, I like the live score by ritsu katsumata ( https://archive.org/details/NosferatuVs.Ritsu ).

Thanks IsanRido.
The Soundtrack really sounds great. I really love the Music, even if I do not watch the Movie very often. (Somehow it is not that good movie for movie watching evenings with friends, and their girlfriends or women…)

I somehow really like the score of that movie. I have a German bootleg release with a soundtrack CD, but it is far away from being a complete score.
Thanks for the effort. I would appreciate a link, too.

I am sitting in an flight Frankfurt to Dubai by Emirates at the moment , and watching auch Füll Screenshots Version of jurassic Park… Awesome…

ElectricTriangle said:

Working Links:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iDjFsZ2L78
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxgkkJOEHS4

Very well to spot difference between this two: The sound of the door hitting the outside part, when the Temrinator leaves the Station to get his car… on the “VHS” Version it seems to be real stereo, coming from the left speaker, and sounding different.

benduwan said:

can anybody tell me the difference between this two versions:

http://www.amazon.com/Army-Darkness-Collectors-Edition-Blu-ray/dp/B0112HPSXI

http://www.amazon.de/Die-Armee-Finsternis-Ultimate-Blu-rays/dp/B00BGSI408/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8

i own the german koch media version.
is in the US version some stuff that isn´t in the german one?

and does anybody knows which german bluray from evil dead 1 (tanz der teufel) is the best version (with many extras)?

thanks to all movie experts

First: There is no official German Evil Dead (Tanz der Teufel) BluRay release. The Bootleg only contains the Movie in Widescreen and 4:3 pillarboxed. As Bonus just an audio commentary and a 18 minute featurette.

Second: The US Army of Darkness release seem to have some quite different master for the international Version and the US theatrical cut: http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x=588&y=225&d1=6714&d2=6708&s1=63326&s2=63237&l=0&i=1&go=1 The german is like the french one.

Also, if I read the backsides from the two releases, it seems as if the US has a new feature length documentary “Medieval Times: The MAking of Army of Darkness”

Grabbed the german bootleg at a Movie and Music fair last Sunday, but did not check it out, yet. I hope that some day an official release appear… would be to bad, if we have to rely on a SD TV broadcast…

Ronster said:

Much to my horror I put my terminator DVD in the player just now and was horrified… I have not watched it in ages but I thought I upgraded to the 2 disc special edition digi-pack. Perhaps in terms of picture but I was gutted that I have this crap sound mix on my DVD.

I’m going to have to hunt down the old version again now!

It’s totally different gun sounds and different levels of different sounds and so on.

I think the UK version that had the original mix or Mono converted stero mix was the one where there was writing on his sunglasses If I recall not just the red dot.

That Hong Kong Disc seems have the mono:
http://www.yesasia.com/global/the-terminator-1984-single-edition-dvd-hong-kong-version/1004000066-0-0-0-en/info.html

So, I just got the japanese PIBF-1001 DVD from Terminator 2.

First of all the movie is split in two sections on one side. Seems to be splited where the layer break is.

From first viewing through some scenes, I would say that is is color wise not different from the US release, but I could be wrong. At least the difference is not noticable during first checking out and remembering the color of the US discs…

Edit: Just Checked both japanese DVDs side by side: Both have the same Video Master.

thxita said:

MrBrown said:

thxita said:

I remember reading that the 5.1 mix of Terminator was not the first attempt by Cameron to “better” his 1984 low budget movie. Does anyone remember which other home video versions had alteration prior to the 5.1 DVD in 2001?

There was a LD with the so called Chace Fake Stereo Mix.

http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/30336/2535/Terminator-The

Some Discussion on that mix occured here: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Look-of-Terminator-2/id/17850

Edit😄iscussion regarding the fake Stereo Mix (it is indeed Mono, but altered) starts at page 6.

Is it fake because it’s just a double mono or did Cameron attempt to make further changes to the original sounds? Were sound effects changed only for the early DVD “remastered” audio?
I’m trying to make a timeline of the main audio changes and I remember somebody saying (not sure if here or elsewhere) that Cameron’s tinkering started already in the 90s when he was clumsly trying to give Terminator a better audio than the original flat “mono”

The fake Stereo LD was befor any DVD release. It is not just a double mono. Indeed it is true mono on the disc.

Maybe the Quote from the fanres-forum by jerryshadoe answers some questions:

[jerryshadoe said:]
The mix is different in volume of sfx and dialog (seems much more pronounced) and, at times the sfx are timed +/-10ms different, plus there is some extra dialog heard here and there in the background (in the police station mainly) but it is definitely NOT a stereo mix, even a fake one. On numerous occasions I have seen fake stereo achieved by delaying the right track (in reference to the left one) by 5 to 10 ms, but this is not the case here. Also, the waveform for both channels is identical. Therefore, this LD is merely a different version of a mono mix

thxita said:

I remember reading that the 5.1 mix of Terminator was not the first attempt by Cameron to “better” his 1984 low budget movie. Does anyone remember which other home video versions had alteration prior to the 5.1 DVD in 2001?

There was a LD with the so called Chace Fake Stereo Mix.

http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/30336/2535/Terminator-The

Some Discussion on that mix occured here: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Look-of-Terminator-2/id/17850

Edit😄iscussion regarding the fake Stereo Mix (it is indeed Mono, but altered) starts at page 6.

mastayoda said:

Is there any way to get my hands on this anymore? Gods I have just watched my German “special edition” DVD and I am dying for a blu ray theatrical cut. I refuse to accept the princess version of Conan. I just spent two hours but there is no torrent no nothing to find anymore. I searched the usenet a little but I found only single parts. I will seed this to a filehoster if anyone makes it available to me. Or I could help muxing a German audio track, if anybody wants it. Or eat my old DVD. This version should not fall into (even more) obscurity!

Teile der Antwort könnten Sie verunsichern. 😄

SilverWook said:

Wasn’t this released on DVD?

Yeah, I recently bought the two disc set with the IMAX Version at eBay. The Audio Track is stated to be great.

Okay.. in that case:

Thanks to Doombot and Stamper for passing it along, until it arrived at jerryshadoe who gets tha big thanks for syncing and providing. :)

Thanks to DoomBot for syncing and you for passing along. Now I have a reason to buy the 2013 BD. And I thought I had already enough Releases of the Movie... Seems as if that was wrong asumption...

Danfun128 said:

ffmpeg for audacity is what you need

Windows: http://lame.buanzo.org/#lamewindl

Mac: http://lame.buanzo.org/#lameosxdl

Also, I know it's the wrong franchise, but

Banners that look like BIG GREEN DOWNLOAD ARROWS are usually MALWARE.

"Let that child alone" *rimshot*

 Thanks. Got it. Now I have to figure out how I use, what audacity shows mehr.  :) to Bad I cannot load the dts and the ac3 at the same time Info audacity. My PC has to less free disc space.