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- #380059
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- Making our own 35mm preservation--my crazy proposal
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/380059/action/topic#380059
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I'm lurking in the shadows, mind j00
I'm lurking in the shadows, mind j00
I've got DVD-Rs of the Faces VHS I never finished uploading, but might upload later since I'm not screaming for disk space. (atm it's bandwidth; I'm uploading 27 GB of videos for a friend)
The audio mix to me on all the VHSes I've ever watched seemed to be the 1985 mix, for which there should be rips around here somewhere...
I got someone hunting down some of the R1s, which have been out of print for a while (and the US distributor no longer exists). This should provide me a guide to cut the preview for ep.9, which is my current snag since I want to be as complete as possible and this ep does exist in that format.
Some of the rips off Canadian television I've seen are just abominable. I hope there's other rips out there. Especially once I get into season 2 and there are practically NO dvds of the dub!
The R4s give out at episode 15. A somewhat muffled and noisy copy of episode 16 exists as a TV rip from NZ, the only place it aired. After that the episodes get very spotty:
* 18-19, 21-24 are available on VHS in the UK; they are not available on DVD.
* 27, 29, 34, 37-38, 40-42, and (with the exception of 53) all of season 2 are not available on home video at all, afaik. (I define season 2 as 47-70)
The other eps, i.e., 17, 20, 25-26, 28, 30-33, 35-36, 39 and 43-46, are available on DVD, but the DVDs are long out of print. I am working on obtaining them.
I could prolly put together a quick hack of the Redux I'm making as DVDs, but they would look amateur with only limited ability to make menus. I've had 1-5 encoded for a while now (almost 3 months), but couldn't author the discs satisfactorily.
I'd take barebones anamorphic with the original theatrical mixes. With DL there should be enough bitrate even for a 4.1 (downmix from 4.2), 2.0 and 1.0 track on the same DVD for Star Wars. I think there are only 2 theatrical mixes for the other two.
High: 448/256/256 (960 kbps)
Low: 384/192/96 (672 kbps)
I'm interested, personally, in possibly tweaking the VHS covers for the same edition.
(Like I did with the 1984 set.)
Or worse, they leave half the dialogue in Japanese.
DBK is tightening up DBZ quite a bit. DBZ did get reeeeeeeeally laggy there, and so far DBK threw the lag out the window. In the time it took *Saban* to get to "OVER 9000!!!" DBK is already on Namek and Freeza's already collecting the Dragon Balls there.
I heard a rumor that CN once started reairing DBZ, and played the Funimation dub. Didn't do so hot, so they decided to switch to the earlier dub, and it did a lot better. I suggested it was because the voice work was better; my friend suggested it was because the show was tightened up (15 eps' worth of footage removed from the 67 eps dubbed).
I got the base (i.e., everything but the preview) synched for 109 from a widescreen rip. I hate that the 4:3 rips are made of unobtanium, but since Funi plans to reissue DBZ from a 4:3 master, with next-ep previews, I should have everything I need once they start hitting ep.123.
I'm such an impatient person.
I uploaded the first episode to YouTube as a preview.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkPqCqEXLuo - 108 Part 1 (Funi has a claim on this one but let it stay; it has ads on the window.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d6RGok2NCU - 108 Part 2
The final version, when released, will be better than this. Audio source is an mpg of a Dutch CN airing. The episode proper is complete.
I did a test version of 108 some time ago - I've improved it but it still needs work.
1. It's tiltscanned. I want the final version to be 4:3 OAR.
2. There are a couple incorrect shots during the opening title (because I designed the title for use by people remastering the Saban dub using the tiltscanned R1s). Likewise, the ending is completely wrong (but in both cases, the audio is correct).
3. AFAICT, everything else is correct.
It's only a draft (though it doesn't have any bugs or such); it's also only one of 169 episodes in this dub!
At this point, I have every episode of this dub, in some form.
Most are missing either or both of the recap and the next-ep preview; some are even missing the end of the episode.
The following episodes are incomplete: 175-177, 183-186, 188, 190, 197, 204, 223-224. Only the following episodes are truly complete: 108-112, 114, 144, 147, 151-152, 154, 156, 187, 189, 192-194, 221, 226-227, 229-230, 232-249, 251-254, 256-257, 259-268.
I don't have enough footage to rebuild anything now (I insist on 4:3!), but I may have a shot once Funimation starts releasing their new box, which will be 4:3 (I guess enough fans chewed them out over the tiltscanning of their last set). As most of the OP is the same as Saban's, rebuilding that shouldn't be hard. Funimation will probably include English title cards on their DVDs; they will probably be the same as BW's but (if their recent DB rerelease is anything to go by), like the 16:9s, will lack the DBZ logo over them.
Also: Any idea if this font, or one very similar, can be obtained?

(Apart from popping up the colors that's a genuine screenshot from this dub.)
At least PAL speedup is easy to reverse in MPlayer and Audacity...
I still have no way to reverse PAL telecine x.x
If the mkv features aren't used might be wiser to use mp4 instead...better compatibility. (still get your h.264/aac support, vfr, multi-audio)
Murphy strikes again.
Than LD?
Ouch.
Glad my friend got me the 1993 LDs, then.
I did a clip once with the mid-70s Columbia Pictures logo leading into the pre-ANH rollup.
*hides*
I'd like to find 16mms of Dragon Ball [Z], just for kicks. Which, apparently, they do exist, and have more picture than either the Toei 4:3 or Funimation 16:9 releases.
Looks like Times New Roman (or some other Times variant) to me.
Bingowings said:It's UNITED COLORS OF BENKENOBI
ROFLOL!
There's boards for fandubbers. I want to say Voice Acting Alliance?
WB was using an older version of the Shield and Paramount's logo's been more or less the same since the 30s...Legendary didn't exist so that really only leaves DC.
Large images in sigs never really annoyed me, but what got to me was loud animations in sigs (not like those bars).
Waiting with bated breath.
A lot of cartoons in the late 80s were animated in Japan.
Disney did a lot of series that Tokyo Movie Shinsha/TMS Entertainment animated. TMS is still around and does anime. Dunno if that gives anyone any ideas or not, just thought I'd toss that out there.