Lust-In-Phaze

Your overconfidence is your weakness.

Alderaan said:

Mike is a professional with expensive, professional equipment and the know-how to use it. He has connections and access to better sources, on the condition that he didn’t release them to the public without consent.

This. Whereas our finest minds here on OT are doing something of dubious legality by editing the released films (made even more muddy by releasing them afterwards), Mike is completely within the law, working as a licensed professional who never intends to do anything with his product without the express approval of those who own the rights to it. There’s more than a few self-serving people who are salty at that prospect, but I for one rest a little easier knowing that somewhere out there, there’s a glorious pristine edition of Star Wars just waiting to be released by the books.

Trusting Mike has nothing to do with it, he never said anything about the motivations behind any party in the meeting. Literally all we know is that there was supposed to be presentation or something like that a few months ago, and he has maintained radio silence for nearly six months on the subject. Everything beyond that is pure guesswork.

I’m not usually one to defend the prequels but I feel compelled to chime in here. There’s a lot of valid complaints about plot-holes or characters being written stupidly, but in this specific case there was no choice but to follow the course of action that they did. To those of you that say “well the Jedi should’ve known that maybe something was up with the clones since they were made by the Sith,” what would you suggest be done in that instance? Do you just not have an army? Or do you take the millions of ostensible good guys who showed up to kill all the evil robots?

Chlorine said:

???
I literally just proved to you that he

1. put Qui-Gon’s voice in AotC with Yoda
   and
2. Had it on his mind from 1999.

I’d say the ROTS resolution is perfectly reasonable. Really can’t see an angle where Yoda’s talk with Kenobi about Qui-Gon is unclear or contradictory.

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ftfy

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Chlorine said:

My headcanon for Owen not remembering 3-PO is that

1. The odds are so astronomical that 3-PO would show up at his doorstep 20 years later in a Jawa sandcrawler that he doesn’t even consider that it could be a droid he once owned
2. most protocol droids sound similar (TC-14 sounds prissy too).
3. 3-PO is a different color to when he owned him
4. He doesn’t even have the droid for any period of time before he before dies (as in, maybe he would have remembered eventually).

Point 1 is the big one though.

Not for anything, but 3PO also never tells Owen his name, and is in a completely different state of repair compared to the protocol droid he had over 20 years ago. The more worthwhile argument to have is why Obi-Wan doesn’t recognize R2, or why R2 doesn’t recognize Yoda or Dagobah after it’s been established (in the canon Clone Wars show) that they travelled there together.

EDIT: Disregard this, I hadn’t updated the thread in a few hours so I didn’t realize the conversation had already moved through this area.

• Star Wars isn’t out in the way I want it to be
• Cultural atrocity
  pick one

generalfrevious said:

Possessed said:

Yes and that’s definitely on the same level as the slaughter of innocent people.

I was only referring specifically to ISIS’s destruction of cultural artifacts, and nothing else.

No, don’t worry, that’s wrong too. The literal destruction of art and architecture that’s thousands of years old is unfathomably worse than what’s going on with Star Wars. By destruction, of course, I mean blowing up, burning, knocking down, forever leaving in ruin, etc. Not something as petty as refusing to release the original version of a movie that still exists in multiple formats across the globe, even if they’re not optimal. Star Wars, as important as it is, is not getting “destroyed” on a level anywhere near those reasonably more important ancient artifacts.

One last thought on that line before the thread returns to its intended subject: He also changed up American Grafitti with new skylines and stuff like that. It’s just something he does with his movies. Back to the topic, I think Coppola is a great parallel. Watching Lucas’ student films, as well as his features, you can see he really did have a vision and a wealth of good ideas. But just like Coppola went from Apocalypse Now to Twixt in only a few decades, or how Terrence Malick went from Badlands to Song to Song, once a director starts believing his own hype it’s all downhill. George is, to me, a very tragic figure, someone that used to be great but eventually began phoning it in because, hell, he’s George Lucas and he’s a genius so it’s gonna be great no matter what.

Look at it this way: the single most compelling evidence of an OOT in the near future is John Landis, who said what he said nearly two years ago. Beyond that, everything else is speculation along the lines of “Well duh, Disney knows how much money it would make.” Every rumor in the last few years has been dashed again and again. Compare that with actual statements from multiple people in the company, Kennedy, Hidalgo, and others, all of which say in various degrees of bluntness that there’s nothing in the works. Hell, take the silence on the Mike Verta front, too. Either this is the single best-kept secret in the history of film, or we can assess all of the actual empirical facts that we have to look at. Those facts suggest that they’re just not interested, even if they aren’t contractually obligated to suppress the OT. There’s nothing unbelievable about that.

DominicCobb said:

All she said was that they aren’t going to do any more revisions, which is pretty much just common sense and shouldn’t be news to anyone.

You don’t think she could mean they have no plans of releasing any version except the one that George considers his truest vision?

Fresh off the presses: Kathy Kennedy, on whether or not there are plans to alter George’s “final cut” of the films: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie6Cr3m344k&feature=youtu.be

skip to around the 2:50 mark

What the hell are you doing?!

The exercise is to imagine quotes in a dirty context; once you get past the low hanging fruit (“you came in that thing?”) you must embrace a larger view of the quotes. As for me, I’d say everybody’s doing a pretty good job for the most part. Getting back on topic, “I can imagine quite a bit.”

Are you going to kill me?

I want you to watch me and be mindful.

You said you wanted to be around when I made a mistake, well, this could be it sweetheart.

I’ll pay you triple, you’re throwing away a fortune here, don’t be a fool!

For anyone listening to the chatter before the panel started, they’re calling up fans to the stage if they saw Star Wars in theaters in 1977. Maybe I’m reading far too much into this, but that doesn’t sound like a bad sign.

“Let. Her. Go.”

For me, I don’t know how much there is to tell but I’ll try. Star Wars is:

• The blockade runner getting chased by the Star Destroyer
• The first OOT shot of X-wings diving toward the Death Star as that heroic fanfare plays
• The sweeping orchestral outro after Luke destroys said Death Star
• Luke and Leia looking out of the medical bay at the end of Empire
• Victory Celbration. I’ll admit it, my favorite version of ROTJ is the '97, only because of the emotional attachment I have to its ending
• Duel Of The Fates, for all of TPM’s faults
• The 2003 Clone Wars cartoon
• The April Fool’s prank that my father pulled on 8-year old me, telling me George Lucas said Star Wars was cancelled and there weren’t going to be any more movies after AOTC. I was devastated.
• For all the pandering and fan-service, the Celebration teaser for TFA was better than the movie itself

Strike my last comment, I misunderstood the GMA announcement and thought they were promoting whatever was going to happen during Celebration. While I’m still not fully convinced that we’re getting an OOT, my hopes have not been completely dashed.

It doesn’t sound to me like it’s an OOT announcement at this point, but it also doesn’t seem like Force For Change would be a huge 40th anniversary announcement either. If memory serves, all the fanfare it got for TFA consisted of a few youtube videos of JJ standing in front of sets and props.

If it were me, I would wait until we know whether we need it or not. I’m not exactly hopeful at this point but it can’t hurt to wait and see. That said, if you want feedback on a draft then you could argue that it fits in either this or the Celebration thread.

jedimasterobiwan said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

<72 hrs guys

Until what?

Celebration starts on Thursday with the 40th Anniversary panel, where we’ll either be vindicated after 20 years or we’ll be crushed with one swift stroke.