Lust-In-Phaze

• Star Wars isn’t out in the way I want it to be
• Cultural atrocity
  pick one

generalfrevious said:

Possessed said:

Yes and that’s definitely on the same level as the slaughter of innocent people.

I was only referring specifically to ISIS’s destruction of cultural artifacts, and nothing else.

No, don’t worry, that’s wrong too. The literal destruction of art and architecture that’s thousands of years old is unfathomably worse than what’s going on with Star Wars. By destruction, of course, I mean blowing up, burning, knocking down, forever leaving in ruin, etc. Not something as petty as refusing to release the original version of a movie that still exists in multiple formats across the globe, even if they’re not optimal. Star Wars, as important as it is, is not getting “destroyed” on a level anywhere near those reasonably more important ancient artifacts.

One last thought on that line before the thread returns to its intended subject: He also changed up American Grafitti with new skylines and stuff like that. It’s just something he does with his movies. Back to the topic, I think Coppola is a great parallel. Watching Lucas’ student films, as well as his features, you can see he really did have a vision and a wealth of good ideas. But just like Coppola went from Apocalypse Now to Twixt in only a few decades, or how Terrence Malick went from Badlands to Song to Song, once a director starts believing his own hype it’s all downhill. George is, to me, a very tragic figure, someone that used to be great but eventually began phoning it in because, hell, he’s George Lucas and he’s a genius so it’s gonna be great no matter what.

Look at it this way: the single most compelling evidence of an OOT in the near future is John Landis, who said what he said nearly two years ago. Beyond that, everything else is speculation along the lines of “Well duh, Disney knows how much money it would make.” Every rumor in the last few years has been dashed again and again. Compare that with actual statements from multiple people in the company, Kennedy, Hidalgo, and others, all of which say in various degrees of bluntness that there’s nothing in the works. Hell, take the silence on the Mike Verta front, too. Either this is the single best-kept secret in the history of film, or we can assess all of the actual empirical facts that we have to look at. Those facts suggest that they’re just not interested, even if they aren’t contractually obligated to suppress the OT. There’s nothing unbelievable about that.

DominicCobb said:

All she said was that they aren’t going to do any more revisions, which is pretty much just common sense and shouldn’t be news to anyone.

You don’t think she could mean they have no plans of releasing any version except the one that George considers his truest vision?

Fresh off the presses: Kathy Kennedy, on whether or not there are plans to alter George’s “final cut” of the films: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie6Cr3m344k&feature=youtu.be

skip to around the 2:50 mark

What the hell are you doing?!

The exercise is to imagine quotes in a dirty context; once you get past the low hanging fruit (“you came in that thing?”) you must embrace a larger view of the quotes. As for me, I’d say everybody’s doing a pretty good job for the most part. Getting back on topic, “I can imagine quite a bit.”

Are you going to kill me?

I want you to watch me and be mindful.

You said you wanted to be around when I made a mistake, well, this could be it sweetheart.

I’ll pay you triple, you’re throwing away a fortune here, don’t be a fool!

For anyone listening to the chatter before the panel started, they’re calling up fans to the stage if they saw Star Wars in theaters in 1977. Maybe I’m reading far too much into this, but that doesn’t sound like a bad sign.

“Let. Her. Go.”

For me, I don’t know how much there is to tell but I’ll try. Star Wars is:

• The blockade runner getting chased by the Star Destroyer
• The first OOT shot of X-wings diving toward the Death Star as that heroic fanfare plays
• The sweeping orchestral outro after Luke destroys said Death Star
• Luke and Leia looking out of the medical bay at the end of Empire
• Victory Celbration. I’ll admit it, my favorite version of ROTJ is the '97, only because of the emotional attachment I have to its ending
• Duel Of The Fates, for all of TPM’s faults
• The 2003 Clone Wars cartoon
• The April Fool’s prank that my father pulled on 8-year old me, telling me George Lucas said Star Wars was cancelled and there weren’t going to be any more movies after AOTC. I was devastated.
• For all the pandering and fan-service, the Celebration teaser for TFA was better than the movie itself

Strike my last comment, I misunderstood the GMA announcement and thought they were promoting whatever was going to happen during Celebration. While I’m still not fully convinced that we’re getting an OOT, my hopes have not been completely dashed.

It doesn’t sound to me like it’s an OOT announcement at this point, but it also doesn’t seem like Force For Change would be a huge 40th anniversary announcement either. If memory serves, all the fanfare it got for TFA consisted of a few youtube videos of JJ standing in front of sets and props.

If it were me, I would wait until we know whether we need it or not. I’m not exactly hopeful at this point but it can’t hurt to wait and see. That said, if you want feedback on a draft then you could argue that it fits in either this or the Celebration thread.

jedimasterobiwan said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

<72 hrs guys

Until what?

Celebration starts on Thursday with the 40th Anniversary panel, where we’ll either be vindicated after 20 years or we’ll be crushed with one swift stroke.

Should any of you wish to beg for mercy, the great Jabba the Hutt will now listen to your pleas.

“That bad, huh?”

age said:

Is LucasFilm less powerful?
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/luke-skywalker-photo-lucasfilm-wouldnt-release-years-987358

I very much doubt that he was being completely serious when he said that. Tweeting a funny prodcution photo is definitely not an indication that Lucasfilm has any less authority on what is and isn’t released.

It’s gotten to the point where I don’t particularly care anymore. Years of being burned by this hope have brought me to the conclusion that no matter what, whether there’s an official release or not, I will always have an acceptable analogue in projects like Despecialized. Of course, for many it’s more a matter of principle and preserving history, but given Disney’s track record with classic releases, I’m not going to hold my breath for very much longer. I’ll still be glued to my computer during the Celebration livestream, and I’ll still be hunting down the credibility of any rumors that speak of an OOT, but it’s with no small amount of pain that I say I don’t think it’s very likely at this time.

Alderaan said:

He probably ordered the 2004 masters to be butchered intentionally out of spite.

There are people on this board that literally unironically believe that George Lucas hates his own fans so much that he would go out of his way to make his (at the time) new, definitive version of his life’s work intentionally horrible.

Perhaps obligation isn’t the right word. To me, the fact that over the past three years or so more and more people have been talking about Despecialized and other such fan interpretations means Lucasfilm would have more incentive to say something, not because it’s owed to anybody but because this may well become a huge financial loss on their part should they not capitalize on it. Of course, the argument could be made that the average blu-ray buyer (hell, even the average Star Wars fan) isn’t clamoring for an OOT release, but if it was announced and marketed right – which I’m sure Disney wouldn’t screw up – they could definitely pique the layman’s interest in seeing “the original masterpiece” or something kitschy like that.