I think even looking at Star Wars in a vacuum, if what Ben said was true, anyone would be hesitant to tell a kid that his father was betrayed and murdered by a friend turned evil. Sure, you can look with hindsight and think that’s also an almost-imperceptible sign that he’s not telling the whole truth, but I think his acting in that scene is operating on the belief that he’s being honest to Luke, telling him how his father really died.
The argument could (and should) be made that this is an early example of the process, more an essay in the craft than an example of its peak potential. Jar Jar cost millions of dollars to bring to life too, and while it’s certainly not very good by today’s standards, it paved the way for CGI to advance and reach a point where it’s all but indistinguishable from real life. More practically, just look at how much improved between the CGI recreations in Rogue One and Blade Runner 2049, just a year later.
I went and saw this last Tuesday and was hoping there was a thread about it already here – the print definitely leans toward the screenshots of the new trailer, so whether they were the original colors or not, that definitely wasn’t just done to give it a more contemporary sci-fi look in the trailer. I don’t know enough to say if it’s correct, but I seem to recall Kubrick having a fondness for pastel colors in the production of the movie, which feels more in line with the top pictures in 44rh1n’s comparison.
Out of curiosity, how long does this process typically take from inception to release, and will it be upped to the usual trackers when it’s ready? I haven’t really followed any regrades of the works on here (besides DeEd 2.7) but this looks terrific.
Not to sound reactionary but as a relative newcomer to this particular project is it normal for Poita to be offline for over three weeks at a time? I do know that he’s a really busy guy and it’s been something of a rough patch as far as health goes, so maybe I’m overthinking it.
Nothing’s been going on here for the better part of two years. But every time this thread gets a bump I still hope against hope that there’s news.
As everybody has already pointed out, this is the SE. I’d just like to say on record, however, that this exact box set was my first introduction to the trilogy as a child, and as a result I still have a soft spot for it. I managed to snag one still in the plastic wrap at a Goodwill a few years ago for $1.
I vividly remember, the first time I ever saw Star Wars, thinking that the one rebel solider aiming at the door with the vaguely blondish hair was Luke (I think his EU name was Pello Scrambas or something like that). The fact that he was about 25 years too old and got shot immediately didn’t seem to cross my mind.
they face Snoke, who uses force lightening as well as a kyber crystal ring that creates a saber made of lightening
Unless you’re talking about Legacy, I’ve never heard that Lucasfilm has a readymade 4K theatrical edition of any of the three. The persistent claim that the original negative for Star Wars was destroyed in making the SE might be false, and they might have a release print of it, but I don’t think there’s a remastered transfer just sitting around.
Mike O said:
Seeing that news about the Disney-Fox deal is supposed to be revealed today when TLJ also releases, I’m thinking (and fervently hoping) this bodes well for 4K OUT prospects. It’s to much of a coincidence for it to not mean something significant for SW.
Not according to Pablo Hidalgo on Twitter 😦.
He makes it seem like it really is George holding it back, which I never thought was the case. I wonder if it’s an actual legal stipulation or if it’s just LFL trying to honor his wishes.
Just how the OOT has been ignored by contemporary releases, I think it’s certainly important to preserve the 97 SE’s as well. A few of us were introduced to the series through that, myself included, and it’s important to remember that it’s not their very existence which is problematic, it’s that they were designed to supplant the originals. My ideal world is where they can coexist, so yeah, I for one would be very interested.
Must have hit pretty close to the mark to get her all riled up like that, huh, kid?
Well I guess you don’t know everything about women yet.
(There is a very real possibility that’s been posted already, but I’m not so keen on sifting through the last ten pages to clear it; it’s a necessary response to the intial quote)
I’ve tried to understand this point for months now, but I really just have to ask: why would the rights reverting to Disney in 2020 make any difference whatsoever? They’ve released the trilogy on home video two or three times since the LFL buyout, albeit in the pre-existing 2011 edition, and they finally put the saga out on digital formats as well in that period. Why wouldn’t they wait until 2020 for those, too, if it was just a matter of making the most money off of them? And even when 2020 rolls around, they’ll never have the rights to the original 1977 Star Wars, so it’s not an issue of them not being allowed to restore the OOT either.
You must realize… you are doomed.
If memory serves, RU-08 was working on a Despecialized-esque theatrical recreation frankensteined from various sources a year or two ago, but I’ve never heard anything about it being completed.
Fang Zei said:
It’s not that Disney doesn’t want to share any profits at all with Fox. It’s that they don’t want to share the sudden spike in profits that would come with a 4k/OOT release.
That doesn’t make any sense though. If that were the case, that wouldn’t stop them from working on such a release at the present time, which they aren’t. It can take years for a restoration on this scale to be finished, and if they aren’t going to sell it until 2020 anyway, there’s no reason for them not to get a head start on it now if that was there intent.
I’m actually a Disney plant, hired to post prequel memes so Mike never comes back and Legacy never sees the light of day. You got me.
Negotiation? We’ve lost all communications! And where are the Chancellor’s ambassadors?
Your overconfidence is your weakness.
Mike is a professional with expensive, professional equipment and the know-how to use it. He has connections and access to better sources, on the condition that he didn’t release them to the public without consent.
This. Whereas our finest minds here on OT are doing something of dubious legality by editing the released films (made even more muddy by releasing them afterwards), Mike is completely within the law, working as a licensed professional who never intends to do anything with his product without the express approval of those who own the rights to it. There’s more than a few self-serving people who are salty at that prospect, but I for one rest a little easier knowing that somewhere out there, there’s a glorious pristine edition of Star Wars just waiting to be released by the books.
Trusting Mike has nothing to do with it, he never said anything about the motivations behind any party in the meeting. Literally all we know is that there was supposed to be presentation or something like that a few months ago, and he has maintained radio silence for nearly six months on the subject. Everything beyond that is pure guesswork.
I’m not usually one to defend the prequels but I feel compelled to chime in here. There’s a lot of valid complaints about plot-holes or characters being written stupidly, but in this specific case there was no choice but to follow the course of action that they did. To those of you that say “well the Jedi should’ve known that maybe something was up with the clones since they were made by the Sith,” what would you suggest be done in that instance? Do you just not have an army? Or do you take the millions of ostensible good guys who showed up to kill all the evil robots?
I literally just proved to you that he
- put Qui-Gon’s voice in AotC with Yoda
- Had it on his mind from 1999.
I’d say the ROTS resolution is perfectly reasonable. Really can’t see an angle where Yoda’s talk with Kenobi about Qui-Gon is unclear or contradictory.
My headcanon for Owen not remembering 3-PO is that
- The odds are so astronomical that 3-PO would show up at his doorstep 20 years later in a Jawa sandcrawler that he doesn’t even consider that it could be a droid he once owned
- most protocol droids sound similar (TC-14 sounds prissy too).
- 3-PO is a different color to when he owned him
- He doesn’t even have the droid for any period of time before he before dies (as in, maybe he would have remembered eventually).
Point 1 is the big one though.
Not for anything, but 3PO also never tells Owen his name, and is in a completely different state of repair compared to the protocol droid he had over 20 years ago. The more worthwhile argument to have is why Obi-Wan doesn’t recognize R2, or why R2 doesn’t recognize Yoda or Dagobah after it’s been established (in the canon Clone Wars show) that they travelled there together.
EDIT: Disregard this, I hadn’t updated the thread in a few hours so I didn’t realize the conversation had already moved through this area.