I didn't recognise you at first because of your new avatar :)
sans_fi said:
adywan said:
Just accepted it Amras
Just a quick question: what different audio languages are available for the ESB GOUT or original theatrical laserdisc/ VHS versions ?
I have the VHS of ESB GOUT in (Spain) Spanish. With what i know i could transfer it to my computer, but i dont know how much quality...
EDIT: Not the original ORIGINAL GOUT, i meant the pack that was released just before the special edition.
Crappy quality is crappy.
Besides, I'm pretty sure that the North American version of the GOUT have Spanish tracks.
That's good to hear Ady, I guess there's something for everyone now :)
Well, there's only one person on these boards who can answer this.
No, there is another... oh wait, no there isn't :)
TV's Frink said:
Not everyone has a blu-ray player, Mr. Big Fancy TV Man.
Neither do I, but I will one day. But I can play the .ts streams via USB on my television for now :)
I remember (when reading through this 600+ pages thread), that there was a discussion about if Ady was gonna have both a PAL and NTSC version of ESB:R and if there was gonna be a purist edition like he did for ANH:R. And he said that (at the time) he was simply going to release a 720p AVCHD version of ESB:R.
That's why I thought there wasn't going to be a DVD version.
So am I correct that these extra languages will only be in the DVD version and that the 720p AVCHD will only have the English DD5.1 track?
Huh? I thought Ady was only planning on doing an AVCHD version in 720p, you mean he's also doing a DVD version of ESB:R?
If this means that he'll only add the extra languages to the DVD version and not the AVCHD version then I'm a happy camper indeed :)
adywan said:
Lord Grievous said:
What about the annoying fact that the dubbed track never matches the character's lip movements? If that doesn't break immersion than I don't know what does. It's like watching that guy from Police Academy.
BTW, how much space does a DD 2.0 track take up? 150MB? If you have about seven of them that's over a GB of wasted space, not counting the 300+MB English 5.1 track. I mean, obviously it's your call, but maybe you could have just an English version and one mulitlangual version?
Anyway, nice fix there :)
wasted space in your eyes LG, but not in mine and not in peoples eyex that aren't native English speakers. The overall size of the video only track on ANH:R DVD-9 was approx 6.gb and no one complained about the quality of that so i see no problem using the extra space for audio.
If you don't like it, then you don't have to watch it. LOL ;)
I didn't mean to sound like I'm telling you what to do with your edit, but if you're really planning on having half a dozen foreign tracks included, wouldn't it be better to have a separate multilangual version of ESB:R?
An extra gigabyte for the video might not be *that* noticeable, but it can definitely add some extra detail on bigger displays.
Your call in the end, but I just hope you'll at least consider it :)
adywan said:
Lord Grievous said:
doubleofive said:
Lord Grievous said:
That's a very narrow minded attitude there Lord Grievous.When my kids weren't old enough to read they could follow the story perfectly. Even when they grew a little older subtitles wouldn't have appeared on screen long enough for them to follow it. And personally i hate having to read subtitles all the way through a movie. Why shouldn't people a movie dubbed into their own language? You do know that there are also people with learning difficulties and other reasons why they can't read the subtitles don't you? Why should we discriminate against them just because you don't like movies being dubbed? Because ESB:R is very close to the original theatrical cut i want to be able to provide as many different audio language tracks as i possibly can. Unfortunately that may not be possibly for the other movies. And as the extra audio languages will only be AC3 2.0 and all the extras will be on a separate disc, there will be no problem with losing bitrate to accomodate them
Now here's a quick little fix i've just finished (please don't cross post this to anyone elses youtube account)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEUEISUj9M4
Ripplin said:
yes, that was fixed a while ago :)
What about the annoying fact that the dubbed track never matches the character's lip movements? If that doesn't break immersion than I don't know what does. It's like watching that guy from Police Academy.
BTW, how much space does a DD 2.0 track take up? 150MB? If you have about seven of them that's over a GB of wasted space, not counting the 300+MB English 5.1 track. I mean, obviously it's your call, but maybe you could have just an English version and one mulitlangual version?
Anyway, nice fix there :)
If they're not old enough to read the subtitles they're probably not old enough to follow the story of Star Wars. Just seeing the spaceships whiz by and seeing the lightsaber fights is enough for them.
Too many movies get dubbed, countries like France and Germany dub every foreign language movie automatically.
Here in Belgium we only dub some children's cartoons and movies, I watched Star Wars when I couldn't yet read and understand everything they said in the movie but I still liked it.
Every time I switch channels and accidentally hear the Simpsons or Star Wars in French I crinch.
If you don't want to watch the film as it was intended, don't watch it at all. You might as well watch it with your eyes closed or with the sound muted.
When will people learn to stop dubbing movies, it's a disgrace and disrespectful to the original actors.
I just bought the Japanese LD of The Empire Strikes Back:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390117083573&_trksid=p2759.l1259#shId
It has the full John Alvin artwork, so I'm planning on scanning it in high quality.
What resolution (dpi, ppi) would you suggest at minimum for a high quality scan? I only have a low resolution scanner so I'm planning on taking it to a copy/scanning center.
One center says they can deliver 600dpi, is this photo quality?
EDIT: bkev, thanks a lot, those are really good! Did you get those from the UK VHS Executor Collector's Box?
The laserdiscs only had English if I recall correctly, they had a shitload of subtitles for foreign languages though.
I hope you're not planning on including several DD5.1 tracks on the ESB:R because they take up over 300MB per track, which means less space for the actual movie.
Personally I think the best option would simply be to add subtitles, watching these films dubbed does them no justice.
Anyway, welcome back Ady :)
You wouldn't happen to also have the Japanese LDs with the John Alvin artwork on them?
Okay, I'm downloading both ESB Rowman and Building Empire, see how they compare.
Hopefully when Lucas does release Star Wars on Bluray, they'll have the Making Of Star Wars/Empire Strikes Back SPFX/Return Of The Jedi Classic Creatures/From Star Wars to Jedi docus on them, and hopefully in better quality :)
These three making of features have all been released on laserdisc, so are there any projects that have converted them to DVD or as separate AVIs for instance?
Thanks.
EDIT: I know about the Rowman 4 disc box and the Building Empire and Returning To Jedi fan documentaries, how do these compare quality-wise? Do they use the laserdisc or VHS rips as a basis for the original making of features?
Which one of these has the best image quality?
Good to hear about those new transfers, hopefully we'll soon get them on Blu-ray.
Ady, I sent a friend request on facebook, under the name Don Quichotte.
EDIT: Ady, you've probably come across this but just in case:
http://www.modelermagic.com/?cat=18
Lots of close up shots of the original studio models :)
I hope Ady keeps the Star Destroyer formation as it is (apart from colour correction and such), it looks perfect the way it is and changing it is going down the "just because we can" path.
Remember, if once you start down the George Lucas path, forever will it dominate your destiny.
It says there's no function MVAnalyse.
You do pelvic thrusts whilst skiing?
No, someone explained it to me just now:
Where do babies come from?
Lord Grievous said:
Adywan I'm sure you've noticed/fixed this already but there's something that's always bothered me in ESB.
Whenever we see several Star Destroyers in a scene they don't move in relation to each other, because all three were just static props and the camera moved in relation to them. Not always if course, in the asteroid chase scene the three Star Destroyers move in relation to each other, but for example before the Battle of Hoth we see three Star Destroyers in orbit and they all move the same.
Could you perhaps liven them up a bit? Make the two other Star Destroyers move a bit slower/faster than the first one?
Now that we're on the topic of the Star Destroyers near Hoth :)
Could you tell me if you're going to fix this please?
The neighbours won't like that, no they won't :P
Ady, how's work on the models coming along?
That joke's wearing rather thin by now :|
Ah thanks :)
