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#350965
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Darth Piccolo said:

hey ady, ever considered adding the lightsaber interative lightinglike vaderios example

 

 This is so cool! I have seen other saber-on-face effects for luke in Cloud City but this one really sells it! As always Adywan will give the final word but this truly lives up to the hype....amazing

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adywan said:

yeh it would mean scrapping the whole exterior scenes which i don't want to do.  there's also another issue when you see the corridor view that is outside the door that Lando & Chewie enters

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as you can see there is another apartment entrance  next to leias and the window she is looking out of would actually be looking into the next door apartment. What a mess. i hate continuity issues...lol

so it needs a new matte that shows a smaller window and a matching one next to leias to help fix this issue to make the building look larger that it does at present

 

either that or just leave everything as it is which i'm more in favour of now.lol

 

 

 

 Ady you just proved what I said in my previous post and what DoubleOfive nailed just a moment ago. The mattes don't add up, in Star Wars that doesn't seem to be an issue of concern (continuity issues) otherwise just try to make spacial sense of the Falcon's interior and exterior....

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#350752
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adywan said:

i'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet. where has the window that Leia looks out of gone? surely there should be a window instead of a corridor there?

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but thats going to be hell, if not impossible, to fix so i may just leave this

 

 Haha Ady just proved that we were so focused at "barking at the wrong tree" with the lightning issue that we missed this little bit by a mile! and what's being said about Chewie using a door that would lead to thin air is a common mistake in Star Wars I think....doors just open....like in the duel in the abyss....there's no architecture there to support that fight....

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Siliconmaster482 said:

Well, that ends that discussion pretty quickly. Lol. It's amazing what some good color correction can do to a scene. Thanks for the screencaps, Ady.

 

 You hit it right in the head Siliconmaster482...Ady just solved that argument "with one swift stroke" hehe.

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vaderios said:

I agree with the reflection. It adds more definition to the window.

Go for it


-Angel

 

if the reflection is done in the window as it is it would be correct, because there is no reason for the inside to be darker due to what I explained above. The window could be as bright as it is, and hence the reflection would be very blurry and with low opacity.

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#350695
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Monroville said:



I think this could work out well; it would be one of the simplest changes and would help the window and building stand out better.

I think we are forgetting the room in which Leia is has a glass roof and hence such a spectacular lightning would be posible for a glass roof, it's not just sun-roof, it's huge, you can see it in the next scene from the inside, the whle roof has glass with sun pouring in....let's not forget that....

 

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Savage said:
doubleofive said:

almost completely undoing the terrible choice of Anakin not recognizing that he could have kids at all even though he's been calling him "Skywalker" all movie.

Yeah, but to me "Skywalker" is the Star Wars equivalent to "Jones" or "Smith" in the US.  Who knows how many Skywalkers are running around in that universe? 

Of course "hiding" Luke away from Vader by giving him to Vader's step-brother and keeping the "Skywalker" name wasn't too smart in the beginning, but what're you going to do? :)

I always had the idea that Skywalker was a pretty uncommon name in that universe, maybe because of the connotation of the "one that will bring balance to the Force", imagine if someone said "a Smith will bring balance to this country(US)" the search would be mute, but if you are going with a pretty uncommon last name is sort of like less candidates to fullfill that prophecy (which by the way the prophecy was known only to Jedi and Sith)

 

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#350512
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doubleofive said:
Jedi Dark Knight said:

I was checking the uploaded bits found in the first page, and maybe this has been mentioned before but it appears the wampa scene has been deleted altogether. Now I don't care much about the furball but the important revelation of Luke "relaxing into the force" to force-pull the lightsaber to show how intuitively he is learning to use the Force is lost, and also more important than anything is the "Luke, you must go to the Dagobah system"....without this order you never know why would Luke go separate ways than the rest of the alliance...it creates a plot-hole

That particular clip was a selection of changed shots, not a full segment.  No worries.  He's just cutting the Special Edition Wampa parts.

 

 Oh....Ok.....sorry if I came off old-news-y (is that a word?) but I'm still catching up...thanx 005.

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I was checking the uploaded bits found in the first page, and maybe this has been mentioned before but it appears the wampa scene has been deleted altogether. Now I don't care much about the furball but the important revelation of Luke "relaxing into the force" to force-pull the lightsaber to show how intuitively he is learning to use the Force is lost, and also more important than anything is the "Luke, you must go to the Dagobah system"....without this order you never know why would Luke go separate ways than the rest of the alliance...it creates a plot-hole

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#350338
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doubleofive said:

You have been gone a while.  Check out ION CANNON from the front page.  And be sure to check out the new screenshots up there.

 

You hit it right in the head man.....been a while, however I'm trying to catch up as fast as I can, I jumped straight to where I left and reading the last updates too, but still.....Been seening a lot of cool stuff too. Hahahahahaha just downloaded the video (thanks for the link!) hahaha Ady you "are on the jazz" again...it looks great, among the updates I noticed is SD expanded window, improved ION CANNON, more ships around Hoth, a great fire exchange during the escape and the fantastic jump to hyperspace at the end.....this is gonna be great!

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#350312
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adywan said:

damn, i don't want to even think about the DVD structure yet. I'm only half way through the film. lol

 

hahahaha yeah, it must be a pain to think about things so far ahead. You mention that you are halfway throught the film does that mean that the Rebel Escape from Hoth will receive any updates? as of now there are shots where it seems there's only one SD around the planet and supposedly the entire fleet was around Hoth....hence Luke escapes so easily, when he leaves you don't see any ships there!

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#350187
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vaderios said:

Well this took me a while... working 1080p is fun :P

We can see the establishing shot that a X-wing is landed an R2 unit aproach the door and next shot luke its inside the building and R2 enters from behind.

 

-Angel

Hi guys, I've been away like forever and I'm sorry, I was just catching up on ESB-R and came upon this! I know Ady won't be using it and someone said it could be used in the menu screen (great idea to avoid throwing a GREAT matte btw) but I must ask, where did you get a 1080 pic like that? even for wallpaper-ing purposes this is just stunning!!!!

 

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#312558
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Originally posted by: bkev
Originally posted by: InfoDroid
HOLY! That Emperor shot is PERFECT! It was the hood, I said it all along!

Yes, the new hood made all the difference.


I third that, the hood is the key to the Emperor, that's why the hood in Ep3 looked weird, the definitive emperor's hood is seen in ROTJ!!!! The hood is everything!!

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Originally posted by: discostewart
For me other than the usual continutity errors and bloopers (seeing Daniels skin under c3po) Empire doesnt need that much changing.

Where it fails is with the puppets, The TaunTaun dying looks awful, the stop-motion there needs addressing as it isnt fluid.
Same with the minocs, they look like bits of cloth on wire.


I agree that Empire doesn't need that much changing, except for the minor bloopers (Cloud city Windows anyone?), now with AT-AT's it's been said that their revelation adds to the terror of the Empire's attack and showing them in their landing path (like the TF in TPM) only detracts from the revelation in the binoculars. The lighting of the lightsabers like someone posted in the EP IV thread with Obi-Wan I think would look great and reflect to Anakin-Dooku's fight visual style. That being said I think the AT-AT's should only get multiplied to see an army of walkers but not much else. I don't know how can the tauntaun can be improved (or if!)

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Anakin couldn't have been 18-20, because Luke was roughtly that age in ESB according to Yoda, and Yoda called him "too old to begin the training". That means that even in the OT, Jedi were envisoned to start their traning at a fearly young age. Probably no older than 15 at the very least.

Lucas's first story ideas for The Phantom Menace included Obi-Wan finding Anakin on Tatooine. Qui-Gon was a Jedi friend that Obi-Wan met later at Coruscant. Lucas apparantly disregarded this plot idea because he didn't want the young Anakin to se Obi-Wan as a father figure, since they are more like brothers. Qui-Gon then stepped in to become Anakin's "father" for a brief period.

Even though I like the idea of Qui-Gon finding Anakin, I must say that I would prefer if Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan were friends in TPM rather than Master/Padawan. It could be sort of like Obi-Wan and Anakin's friendship in ROTS.


If we are in the field of hypothesis then maybe Yoda could've said "too old" since that mistake was taking a 18-20 year old Anakin and doesn't want the same thing to happen again with Luke. But while Jedi could have been like a school from what we hear in th OT, in the PT they are portrayed as *stealing* (or taking or asking) babies from their families in a much earlier age in a more religious manner. Obi-Wan is the quintessential father figure to Luke, it could have been like they are in AOTC or ROTS. As you say it would be interesting, but that level of editing I guess it would be PRETTY hard to accomplish....is almost like making a brand new movie.
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Originally posted by: adywan

As for the vane it is a bit of a design flaw. I think that Luke was supposed to have reached there through the long tunnel but they put the support pole in the wrong position on the matte which caused confusion. A small tweak to the matte should be able to fix this.


The OT is full of design flaws, just look at the Falcon and you'll see what I mean, the door doesn't add up, besides it has 2 boarding docking doors at each side which are never used, and the Tantive IV is another example...but we have learned to live with it

I have some plans to fix this error in the PT and not have OBi-Wan as Qui-Gon's padawan but instead have Yopa call Obi-Wan his padawan in some instances in TPM or maybe just omit the whole padawan thing with Obi-Wan altogether


Wow, I never thought someone else though about that, I always thought that Obi-Wan should have been a knight/master at the start of TPM and Qui-Gon either be a friend he went to Naboo with or ran into at the temple and make the story of Obi-wan in the PT flow more accurately with what he says in RoTJ: "when I first knew him he was already a great pilot.....I took it upon myself to train him as a Jedi" if we picture this line disregarding the PT, it would appear that Obi-wan met a young hot-shot pilot (18 or 20 years old) in one of his adventures and and was impressed with Anakin's ability and Force attunement, and he "took it upon himself" to train him disregarding what Yoda said, which in turn makes him more like Qui-Gon in certain ways. If we follow this train of thought the rebelious "hot shot" attitude of *that* Anakin would make him more suitable to the phrase "Vader was seduced by the dark side" as in Anakin would exhibit rebelious and adventure-seeking behavior and be seduced by the promise of more power. This scenario makes it difficult for Padme to appear as well as other things in the current PT, but makes the whole saga flow as a whole, without white lies and racionalizations.

Anyway, sorry for being sidetracked, Adywan I dunno the full extent of the changes you are trying to improve on TPM, and how hard would they be...I can only take EP4 as a proof that you could do them without problem, best of luck.

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Originally posted by: C3PX
Originally posted by: Erikstormtrooper
I'm gonna have to stick with Chrille on this one. As a bonafide grammar Nazi, I think changing it to "a Jedi Master" is preferable, if it can be done.


Also, you would think that if anyone were to be considered "THE Jedi master who instructed" Obi-Wan, it would be Qui-gon, since he was Obi-Wan's master. Yoda was more of a Jedi kindergarden teacher. The whole Yoda teaches the youngling thing really felt like it was a "quick fix" to the problem of "oh, crap, I totally forgot that Yoda was suppose to be Obi-Wan's master. Hmm, what it the best way to resolove that... these fans are a lot smarter than I thought... ah, I got it!" (don't think it is possible for George to forget such an important detail? What about when they had to go back and film a scene of Obi-Wan picking up Anakin's lightsaber because "they kinda forgot he gave it to Luke in A New Hope", that was a pretty important detail they managed to forget. How about Leia remembering her mother? I think it is pretty safe to say George didn't bother rewatching the Star Wars trilogy before setting out to write the PT).


You expose some very valid points there C3PX, and in light of that reasoning, indeed George went for a couple of quick fixes in Ep3 to avoid more continuity problems, in the end EP3 was the movie to supposedly end all continuity problems, I remember hearing/reading that the movie was for the fans because of this. I could go either way on this, if Adywan has enough time and is not too much I guess it could be fixed. I would rather be more interested in more AT-AT's, the window stormtrooper fix and the Emperor's holo-conversation part....hehe

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Originally posted by: Sluggo
Originally posted by: Chrille
One last thing. There will be no PT music added to ESB.


Agreed, ady.

But what about the Emperor's Theme from ROTJ? I think a subtle rendition would be just perfect for the hologram scene, give it an eerie (sp?) feel. It's kinda smiliar to the subtle musical backdrop to the conference scene in ANH that you added.


I agree with this. It would be a nice tie in with ROTJ and the prequels, where it appears in about all of Palp's hologram transmissions. Of course, subtle is the key for this. Just to add for ambiance with out blasting it out.


I agree 100%, the theme could add some connotation to the character, again the key is subtle.

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Originally posted by: auximenies
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Since ultimately Ady's edits have the goal of harmonizing I-VI, wouldn't the Emperor's appearance in ROTJ therefore NOT be a revelation? So there would not have to be any concern for "spoiling" anything in the next film. With that said, the idea would still work better (and be easier to pull off) if the view was from behind.


You are right about not spoiling the revelation of his presence but maybe the revelation of his appearance, he looks older and more decrepit in RoTJ.....anyway what do you guys think of the idea?

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Originally posted by: Murch
WOW! Are you kidding me???? Amazing work, love all of the eyes in the Cantina Seq, c3po coming out of the garage, that first blast on the tantive - I'm very very impressed. This could possibly become the most talked about fan cut ever. Seriously. Again, stunning stuff. Makes me wonder what the hell is wrong with Lucas (yet again)


Second posting! hehehe. Your insight into why Lucas and Co. fail to see these things dawned on me this morning: they don't need to put as much effort in restoring and fixing this as Adywan is for a simple reason: it costs a lot of money to pay people to do what Ady is doing out of love, and why would they spend money on a "sure-fire" hit? they know everyone will buy anything they put out just because it's Star Wars, to spend more money fixing it is not necessary, the only way they will change their "Empire's"-ways is if we, the fans, don't buy any more DVD's
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Hello! first time posting! I stumbled upon this while looking to see if the rumours are true: that there's a fan edit that it's truer to the Star Wars mythos than the Lucasfilm DVD's and I can only say: it's true, never watching the "official" ep 4 again....Adywan you have done things I had only imagined before and to see them now in crystal clear format it's great, I was so happy to see we can make suggestions this time.....if I may give my opinion here

Originally posted by: Chrille

I like that you will try to make the Emperor hologram look closer to how he looked in ROTJ, but I still maintain that the best and simplest thing to do is simply to darken the hologram so that most of his face is not visable.

Think of the scene in ROTJ when Palpatine lands in the hangar bay. As he and Vader walks and talks, only his mouth, chin and the lower part of his left cheek is visible. That's how I think it should be in ESB as well.


I agree with Chrille here, make the hologram scarier, darker, and more similar to the final Emperor. Also an idea I toyed around in my mind and want to share is that we hardly see Coruscant in the OT so what if the conversation with Vader could go like this: when Vader talks to the hologram it's onboard the SD, but at the beginning of the conversation after he says "what is thy bidding..." the camera goes to Coruscant and we see from behind (to avoid spoiling the ROTJ revelation) the Emperor talking to a Vader hologram answering the greeting, and so the conversation goes back and forth in the two places....I dunno if that's feasable but it's fun to think about it and it would be cooler if it could be seen.

Besides that just adding more imperial troops and AT-AT's at the Hoth attack and MAYBE more ships in space when the rebel base is evacuating....

Some guys have mentioned the errors in cloud city windows, I think that should be fixed too, like in ANH, small subtle fixes that our friends at LFL don't have a sharp eye to catch! hehe. Still in the end Adywan it's your edit, and I know it will look great.