You may be right 005, it is shaped as an R2 Unit, but you don't see it, maybe a mistake in compositing?
vaderios said:Here is what i was talking about.
Im not saying that ady's pic is bad. still i like a wip pic that he has post when the stormies are firing (previous shot of this scene^ that has a part of blue sky)
So i think is an enhance version of the Original matte and its not create any continuity problems with the colors when luke is on the antenna. ( when luke is in the antenna it supposed the sun should be in the same level or below him. see one of my previous mockups)
That is my 2 euros ;)
-Angel
I like your night sky Vaderios. Hasn't anyone noticed something?: the blast is interrumpted as if smudged (sp?) by a finger, it's the same in the original shots, but the enhacement makes it look as if someone swiped the finger over the laser, look at it.
No drama here, it's a technicallity: Imperial Prision = Bespin, Death Star = metal moon, but the motif: "an ugly place to hold Leia prisioner" is the same....
right on the tick Shanerjedi, those where among the original ideas Lucas had, amomng the Death Star being Bespin instead of a moon-shapped station, Vader having a throne surrounded by fire, coruscant filled with piramids, wookies intead of ewoks (I would have gone with that one!), and the like.....the untold riches in the star wars that never was, hehe.
Demonoid? torrents? mmmmm....interesting idea. I was confused by the whole linktalk deal, but torrents are much easier to find/get/open/download. Thank you ChainsawAsh.
The MPAA? arrrgghhhh....they remind me of "The Empire's sinister agents"
The changes seem interesting I would love to see it, however the links take you to a site that doesn't have for download......has anyone been able to access a site to download?
I agree with you on that Bingowings, but I sensed in other threads a different idea.....
I just want to point out we are not "Adywan's yes-men" contrary to some beliefs I think this is an open conversation about things that could be improved, when they are it's obvious to be happy about it. I bring this up because of some perceptions floating in the air of other threads. Carry on
Ady, you really outdid yourself this time, the cloud city matte looks so much better, one has to remember that there has to be some space for the X-Wing to travel towards the city, and it just glimmering there in the light, with bright in front and dark behind gives it a stange-but-nice sense of what is about to happen while still remaining pretty to look at and not ruining the metaphor. Truly pretty.....that single shot would be great in "The Art of ESB revisited" book no one will publish hahahahaha.
Just as a side note: "The true intelligence lies in discovering other people's intelligence" - René Descartes
Vaderios: I say go crazy with that golden bikini Leia! hahahaha ;)
C3-PX: I sense callousness in you.
Back to merry-go-rounds outside Bespin......
Doubleofive I must say your new avatar has succesfully reinvented itself to show the new take on secret agents...hehehehe. way cool.
On Bespin....I say take away the merry-go-round-ish thing...it looks silly... it could have been a gas mine or a glorified Vegas for that matter, the thing is move the story to "neutral location" where they don't suspect to be jumped by Vader.
I has been posted earlier that the whole point of cloud city being so "in the clouds" clean, pristine and nice was a metaphor for something that is nice on the outside but hides all the evil on the inside/lower levels (carbon freezong chamber, places where duel scenes take place). That being said, we could stick with the cloud city exteriors as they are, not with moody clouds. In ROTS the cloud formations strike a different metaphor: "everything around in the republic is turning dark" hence the dark skies near Jedi Temple, Senate and the like....it's just about different visual metaphors
Ok, although I like screens and holos I must say there's some true in what you say....as always: Adywan has spoken...
Consistency is great, have the ships in the OT equipped with the touchscreens whenever is right would be wonderfull, that way they look like advanced spacecraft from another time and not like a Boeing 737
ChainsawAsh said:Sure, the PT stuff looks kinda cool, but it doesn't feel like it "works" IMO.
I see your point ChainsawAsh, maybe it's because touchscreens are still so new to us and we are so used to touching buttons and feeling the spring down and the sound and everything, chalk it up to "experience" as you say.....but touchscreens are here, are new, and definitely are they way of the future, because they free you up: "you don't want the fuel gauge on the left? easy, touch it, drag-and-drop-it on the right, there you go" it's true they almost seem magical, but so did lightsabers back in 77 (and still do now, and yet we almost *feel* them work). If this is not the best place to add the holoscreen, fine as the Ad-man said it, not change it just because you can, but as I said, let's not stay away from touchscreens out of whim, sometimes they help and look cool, reminding us precisely that this is in another time where HOLO-screens are common place.....
adywan said: Adding a display of any kind for this scene would be a case of "adding it just because you can".
you pretty much checkmate-ed me there man....ok, since the idea is precisely not fall into tweaks and changes just because you can then ok.....
And that is why the design in the OT is so much better than the PT. Things seem more functional in the OT and the design elements made it look like a different time. Now look at the Pt and everything is just so flashy yet a lot of it looks like elements from today's society. Just because the falcon design was around in the PT era doesn't mean that it should have all the fancy displays we see. Look at today's cars for instance. there are so many varying features you can get with a car depending upon how much you are prepared to pay. The one thing i really want to do when i get to the PT is downgrade a lot of the technology and design. yeh, i can imagine that the queen of naboo would have a very expensive craft with the latest tech but other ships & environment do need the downgrade (which they actually did a bit for the jedi starfighter in ROTS)
Just as a side note just because something has buttons and switches doesn't mean it's more functional, but rather it's less sophisticated. A lot of it looks like elements from today's society? back in the seventies everything looked like the Falcon: switched and buttons, technology has advanced to the point you don't have to have a dashboard with fixed buttons, but rather it can reconfigure to the situation in a nice touchscreen. You put the example of the Jedi fighter and that ship still has a lot of screens.
Corellian77: your comment seems to forget that back in the day everytime you wanted to show sci-fi/futuristic stuff you strapped a jetpack into the hero and there you go, same with flying cars, and same with a lot of things, it's because those things speak to us of future, holograms are futuristic because they are not yet here, but buttons and switches? they are here since waaaay back, it actually makes things look old and dated and unrealistic now, and the key is "now". Back in 1977 star wars looked futuristic, now? the ships don't. I don't want to start the debate like Josh put it, but if we are not here to debate about certain things then what? if these days something speaks of future tech is touch screens since we all know that CRT screens are old and out. it's just the way it works, look at other sci-fi movies from the day, before star wars and you'll see old looking things.....with buttons and switches.
I think the motto: "don't change something just because you can" is a good one, but let's not stay away from screens "just because.."
I think one of the reasons the OT looks dated now is what precisely corellian77 pointed out: most of the OT ships have their cockpit full of knobs, switches and buttons, while most of the PT ships boast touchscreens, a middle ground must be found otherwise it makes the OT seem dated, not just by PT standards, but by any movie nowadays......nothing wrong with pop-up holos or nice screens, as long as they don't become too obvious, it would enhance the experience (ANH:R rebel war room anyone?) Let's take into consider how much an X-wing with screen similar to the Jedi-Fighter would gain in terms of giving a perspective of what the pilot saw. same with MF, furthermore with MF since that ships HAS been around since the time of the PT (EP 3 shows it) so it's only natural that MF would have touchscreens and all.....
Davnes007 said:Davnes007 said:This was the start of an idea that came to me in a vision.
Well...here it is. I stayed up all night working on it, so watch it as many times as you can, and enjoy the epic'ness. :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijc5qK3QX9s
EDIT: I know that the text should be backwards, but I was too tired to go through the trouble of making it backwards, sorry.
...now...I have to get some sleep.................................
This is ultra great! I love the idea of showing different planets as Han han seems to be pressing buttons......if Ady can shake something like this in ESB:R I'm all for it, and it's not distracting at all....at leat to me (after the second time hehe)
AxiaEuxine said:Ok boys and girls. I was inspired by Vaderios Angel's post of his OTize Jedi Starfighter cockpit to make one of my own, basically the opposite. Unfortunantly I grabbed scenes from A New Hope to do this which left me with no dedicated thread to post it in. So since the whole trilogy has Xwings I decided to post it here. Let me know what you all think.
I love your display, not so fond of the reflections but if the X-Wings had HUD similar to yours in ANH:R and/or the rest of the trilogy, if not X-Wings maybe the others it would be so much better.
doubleofive said:Siliconmaster482 said:Hahaha! I never knew that! It will indeed be a lot of fun to see what Ady sticks in there now. Anyone else have the Star Wars SE Monopoly manual, with the Aurek-Besh on the back?
Totally. What's sad is that I can almost read it without the guide...
learning a new language are we 005?
ImperialFighter said:Jedi Dark Knight said:Ady probably has tweaked it by now. I know I'm gonna get turbolasers for this BUT.....in the last clip, all wonderfull AT-AT glory and all found myself diverted from the main event (luke going up) by all the action around him, I know I could sound bitchy but it just happens.....I dunno if anyone else has had this feeling..?
I reckon it's just the 'shock of the new' JDK....
I know there's more going on during this new shot compared to the original which we've known for many years, but I reckon this new look is IMMENSE in the scheme of things now!
Once I'd given it a few plays to study all of Adywan's new tweaks, I watched it a couple of times afterwards imagining they'd always been there, and my focus definately remained on the little figure of Luke rappelling upwards, just as it had in the original shot.
It just takes a little time to get used to it, if you've been used to the original. This shot is gonna be amazing on a big screen eventually!
I guess you are right ImperialFighter, it must be the "WOW-factor" working, it's proof that the clip is amazing, it's like watching ESB "again for the very first time" hehe. Regarding the shots towards the AT-AT, I think it would add to the story, sort of like "last-stand" shots against impending doom.
Oldfan said:doubleofive said:I know this is a work-in-progress, but going through it frame-by-frame (its so short, I'm justified!) I noticed that the falling walker doesn't move for the first frame. I KNOW you're going to fix it, but I can't be too safe by not saying anything.
It's impossible to see in the full motion, I'm just having a great time flipping back and forth as everything moves but the walker defies all logic and stays perfectly still!
I played back that portion frame-by-frame just to see what you mean, and you are correct. The very first frame of that falling walker is the same as the following frame. While everything else is inmotion, the walker is just frozen in mid-air for those 2 frames. Then it falls. In motion it is virtually impossible to spot, but I see what you mean. I'm sure Ady is still tweaking these shots, though.
As far as the clip goes, WOW! I have nothing to complain about with this clip. I think it is a vast improvement over the original shot. To my eyes, there is nothing wrong with the mountains at all.
Ady probably has tweaked it by now. I know I'm gonna get turbolasers for this BUT.....in the last clip, all wonderfull AT-AT glory and all found myself diverted from the main event (luke going up) by all the action around him, I know I could sound bitchy but it just happens.....I dunno if anyone else has had this feeling..?
doubleofive said:For those wondering, here is what Ady has to contend with when it comes to The Last Three Walkers:
Also notice the wildly varied backgrounds.
Makes sense that more than one would be brought down by tripping them, and they probably would fall in similar ways.
You nailed it right in the head with that one, the Hoth battle has as many incosistencies and continuity failures as ANH's last battle....thanks LFL
adywan said:don't forget you are just seeing a single frame and working with moving footage is a lot different than being able to work on a still image. there are so many factors that have to go into the video work. i also have to try and keep each individual shot in a sequence match. so changing contrast, backgrounds and colours in one shot may not work for the other shots. its all about balance.
Spoken like a true Master Ady, it's true, sometimes a single frame may not look that good, but in the moving sequence of videos it all falls in place, seen in a few movies (other than star wars), certain frames look horrible in fram-by-frame but in the 24fps rate you see a nice video....
Ripplin said:The DVD-9 is the "ultimate" (and final) edition. It has a bunch of extra features that aren't on any of the other editions.
Do you know where can I get a DVD9 edition? I downloaded mine but dunno which one is it hehe
