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#353671
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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porkinsred6 said:
oh_riginal said:
oh_riginal said:
vaderios said:

Here take the pic and try it out :)


-Angel

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jjOvtOp_QI

Here is my 2nd attempt at it. This time I used the screen image from TPM, though I had to blow it up to work, so its pretty pixelated, but its still the type of image I would like to see on the screen, rather than the one in AOTC.

Thanks for the pic!

So now that a few days have passed for me since really having this chance to show my idea visually, I'm beginning to become curious for feedback.

What makes this idea work or not work, in your eyes?

Also, it relates to ESB, so its not entirely off topic! Control, control, we must learn control!

 

I don't think your idea works.  I feel the scene is supposed to show Leia feeling more comfortable with Han.  The focus is on their faces and their body language.  cutting back and forth from faces to what is shown on the screen is jarring and loses the focus. 

On another note, I kinda like that we don't see what the they are looking at.  Similar to the wampa scene, less is more.

-porkins

 

 

 I generally agree with you here, but still I would like to stay on the topic of awfull screens throughout the OT compared to the wonderfully explanatory and animated screens of the PT. You get a feeling that the OT ships are old or malfunctioning because their screens are a mess, I was happy to see the improvements in ANH:R because it becomes more cohesive, same here, places to change? speeders, X-Wing talking to R2. I agree with the "if it's not shown don't go out of your way to show it" karma, but if it's shown, let's pump it up. the screens should look killer in the OT....my 2 cts.

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#352982
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vaderios said:

Oh!!!

Damn my english then!

I will fix it later.

Speak Galactic basic next time Guys! I dont know Rodian ;P

 

-Angel

 

 

 hahahaha There you go Vaderios....I like the matte as it is now, can't be used in the film due to the reasons so gently explained but the matte as just regular art rocks. Now if you nail it just right, like some other times, we may yet have a winner! hehehehe.

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#352975
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Bingowings said:

Don't worry, once the new trailer comes out I'm sure there will a lot to talk about.

As for the data screen on the Falcon (though I don't think it's actually necessary) it could be a nice project which might be useful more for ROTJ:R during the Endor Battle but might work here too.

Unless we are going to alter the glow from the screen it would have to be mostly blue.

Perhaps the Nav Computer from TPM would be a better guide as it's onscreen longer and the two ships are closer to each other in size.

I'm stuck because I can't find good shots of the screens but here's the best I could under the circumstances (I'm sure other people could do a lot better) :

Navicom

 

 Like Vaderios is so great at... :)

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#352874
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oh_riginal said:
Chrille said:

You know, it seems like we've debated so intensely these pasts weeks that we've nearly exhausted every possible topic, lol. That may be why things have gone so off-topic these pasts days.

 

I tried to stay on topic with the Bespin-on-Falcon-monitor idea, but it didn't stick! But I have to agree... just about every topic is exhausted it seems!

 

 4 pages over the weekend!! you guys are burning through bytes! haha. I agree, after 300+ pages for an almost perfect movie we may have beat it "till the cows come home"

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RoccondilRinon said:
Jeyl said:

Adywan hates EU and has stated that it does not exist for him. He'll accept the prequels any day over any EU material no matter how good they might be. 

Adywan doesn't hate the EU, he just isn't letting it constrain these edits. As well he shouldn't. In fact, GL didn't feel constrained by the EU when he wrote the prequels, leading to several cases of retcon.

Adywan has often said that EU is not in the scope of the things he will take into account

 

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#352167
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OzoneSherrif said:
 

wow so hopefully the prequels won't look like videogames anymore!

 

 Indeed...there are parts in Ep I that do seem like today's videogames....shame...ROTS didn't suffer from that though.....AOTC I dunno.....I remember listening/reading that Coruscant low-levels was supposed to be more "dirty" than the city in Blade Runner, if you watch them side by side I would say GL failed at that, Coruscant low-levels looks and FEELS like an amusement park...no "Ridley Scott lightining", it's all squeaky clean like someone said before, no "used universe" feeling....I mean c'mon George, couldn't you be a little more self-critic? ok, sorry about the PT-rant, but I had to get that out of my system.

 

ESB:R - I know by now it's probably too late, but how about some animations in the rebel monitors back in Hoth? ala ANH:R so they they show some sort of action? thoughts?

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#351548
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Right on the tick doubleofive! hahahahahaha indeed! I notice now...gee I'm getting used to seeing Yoda talk the way the CG Yoda did I expect the puppet talk the same way...Ady you are the man, this is indeed looking better and the best part is that you just take it in without noticing something has happened, just that it rings truer....very good.

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#351541
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doubleofive said:

We've had most of the Dagobah discussion already.  And if you check out the YODA TWEAKED video on the first page, you'll see that Ady has already begun work on tweaking Yoda a bit.  Very cool stuff.

Hey, thanks doubleofive, I checked the video, and I hardly noticed anything new (that could be good I guess), it looks good though....but I might be getting my impression solely on the color correction improvement. Thanks for the post

 

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#351462
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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I think Obi-Wan should have been a Knight/master at the start of TPM and Qui-Gon either be a friend he went to Naboo with or ran into at the temple and make the story of Obi-wan in the PT flow more accurately with what he says in RoTJ: "when I first knew him he was already a great pilot.....I took it upon myself to train him as a Jedi" if we picture this line disregarding the PT, it would appear that Obi-wan met a young hot-shot pilot (18 or 20 years old) in one of his adventures and and was impressed with Anakin's ability and Force attunement, and he "took it upon himself" to train him disregarding what Yoda said, which in turn makes him more like Qui-Gon in certain ways. If we follow this train of thought the rebelious "hot shot" attitude of *that* Anakin would make him more suitable to the phrase "Vader was seduced by the dark side" as in Anakin would exhibit rebelious and adventure-seeking behavior and be seduced by the promise of more power. This scenario makes it difficult for Padme to appear as well as other things in the current PT, but makes the whole saga flow as a whole, without white lies and racionalizations. And by training a 20 year old Anakin Yoda and Obi-Wan realized it would be dangerous to disregard what they usually did with the younglings, hence Yoda's resistance to train a similarly aged Luke in ESB. It all ties together. What do you think?

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#351458
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Dangerous Incorporated said:
adywan said:

but the trailer will be coming out on the 21st may to mark the greatest star wars movie and not the 19th so not a  bloody phatman menace celebration. lol

i just can't wait to get my hands on those PT moies so i can rip them to shreds.

HAHAHAHA

 

This is just one of the posts that gave me the impression you dont like the PTs Ady hence my comments but that was like 7 pages (and 2 days ago!). Talk about flogging a dead horse. I thought that convo was dead and buried.

 

It is DI, don't worry, let's move on...... I've noticed much interest has gone to either Cloud City of Hoth. No Dagobah suggestions....is it perfect as it is? I can only remember vague things....breathing life into Yoda would be nice, CG maybe? [please don't fire your turbolasers at me!]

 

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#351451
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vaderios said:

5 posts in a row! Screenshot taken.

 

Also i want to remind to everyone that the 1st of April is coming ..... :)

 

-Angel

 

 You are absolutely right Vaderios, and I am deeply sorry...you guys really burned through the weekend! I was catching up with everything and though between my posts there would be others when I came here to page 303 turns out I have 5 in a row, I'm sorry. One last thing I have to say as others have passed by the topic on why GL didn't make these chenges when he released SE? because he know he doesn't have to invest much anymore to have a hit with SW, he doesn't care anymore, want proof? look at the PT special features discs, he appears as if he wasn't really thinking it through with the same intensity he had when he was younger....

 

Again sorry for all the posting!

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#351444
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Sevb32 said:
 

The same goes for any movie ever made can have several things corrected, people aren't as obsessive compulsive as we are on films. Any film can be put thru the ringer and many things corrected in it technically. The film industry doesn't have endless non deadline times to work on things.

 

 

 I dunno Sevb32, it's not like most movies can have all these things corrected. Think of it, first it needs to have complex continuity errors, as with most movies it's a matter of "this shirt was in the scene before, not that short" or "the gun holster was on the other side" If you take any of the late movies all boil down to that, here I've seen Ady work not just on continuity errors but holes in the way things should work (ANH:R Death Star Reveal anyone?). I think Star Wars is one of the very few movie sagas that can have that luxury of lending itself for edits...IMO.

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#351441
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ImperialFighter said:
adywan said:

i'm going to maybe add a faint saber glow on lukes face only in a couple of closeups. the whole glow issue seems to have been overdone a bit in the PT but the bit where they swing the sabers around their heads in AOTC is going anyway so the other glows are so quick you hardly notice them anyway

 

REPLY -  Excellent. That will be a good compromise for the 'Empire:R' shots, without having to worry about every possible surface reflection throughout.  These couple of 'close-ups' of Luke's face alone, will be a welcome, subtle touch.

 

R2's jets are also going in the PT so they won't be added in the OT. I hate all the bloody EU explanations for everything which is why all that crap is staying out of Revisited.

 

REPLY -  At last!  I never did like their addition to R2 in the 'prequels', despite ANY of the 'official' suggestions given for their lack of inclusion in the 'Original Trilogy'.  I'm really pleased that R2 is going to remain grounded in these future edits.  

 

The rotating room is an interesting idea but just wouldn't work. i've been looking over that scene again and the scale of things is all messed up. the cloud car is too big when it reaches the building. either that or the lift on the side of the building is for midgets only. maybe it was the ugnaught only lift. lol. it does need a new matte. i was thinking about shrinking the window a bit but leia needs to be the focal point of that shot so that may not work. plus the window needs to be higher up on the building because the interior ceiling is too low down. Is it worth all the extra work to try and sort out the continuity mess though? i'm not so sure at the moment.

REPLY -  Thanks for the update on this one.  As I recently described, even a little tweaking to the 'interior' detail of the 'apartment window', and the removal of the uppermost 'roof framework' would make a big difference to the existing continuity.  However, if you DO decide to go further, then that's even more than I could have hoped for.

(Oh and Sevb32, regarding your recent request for a 'flipped into reverse' clip of the 'city fly-through' to be put up - just get a mirror out to watch it in, I tells ya, and have those 'pause' / 'reverse' remote buttons at hand)

 

By the way, has anyone else had any problems with page 300 freezing up half-way through the 13th post down by Dangerous Incorporated?  I seem to remember this happened a while ago, but can't remember what caused it.  Anyway, It's still frozen at my end, and if anyone else can see the whole page, did I miss anything of interest? 

I had the same problem catching up from 294, 300 was a freeze, thought I had the problem.....nice to see it wasn't me! hehe

 

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#351437
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adywan said:

but the trailer will be coming out on the 21st may to mark the greatest star wars movie and not the 19th so not a  bloody phatman menace celebration. lol

i just can't wait to get my hands on those PT moies so i can rip them to shreds.

HAHAHAHA

 

 Can't wait to see what The Phantom Menace turns into....a teenaged Hot Shot Pilot Anakin? Master Obi-Wan? no Jar Jar? YEAH!!!!

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ChainsawAsh said:

I think the official EU (read: bullshit ass-covering) explanation is that the warranty on Artoo's jets had expired by the time of the OT, forcing his CPU to lock them off, or something stupid like that.

I think they should be removed from the PT, not added to the OT.  I thought they were ridiculous and, frankly, stupid.

 

 

As most EU explanations for OT-PT continuity errors....seriously I dunno what's the game with making up stupid explanations for all that crap!
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ChainsawAsh said:

I think the official EU (read: bullshit ass-covering) explanation is that the warranty on Artoo's jets had expired by the time of the OT, forcing his CPU to lock them off, or something stupid like that.

I think they should be removed from the PT, not added to the OT.  I thought they were ridiculous and, frankly, stupid.

 

 

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Sevb32 said:

The pic above is just before the switch to the other side view of the building on the left and we see Leia walking in the window, this is a moving shot so could we assume Leia's new building design is on the the other side of the left building which was originally supposed to be hers? It's all with keeping this shot of the fly thru, would hate to see it gone.

 

 Interesting take Sevb32, would hate to see it go too....some of the ideas that have been tossed around like a brand new matte with new architecture specifically designed to fit what we see next inside could be the solution, by the way would love to see that matte ;)