Jar Jar Bricks

It’s an interesting situation because we actually know what the alternative to TROS was with Duel of the Fates. And, yikes, that would have been super duper bad imo. Besides the arc for Finn and a couple cool moments like the Vader duel, I prefer what we got 100%.

The fact of the matter is that TLJ didn’t leave us with a lot of places to go. Kylo Ren is not intimidating as a lead villain, but is an awesome character study nonetheless. The only alternative I can think of is that Snoke resurrects himself and reveals himself as Darth Plagueis, claiming responsibility for the creation of the Skywalker family and Rey herself. But as amobex pointed out, there is not enough material for such a thing to be created in a mere fan edit.

Plus, at the end of the day, I’m starting to care more about larger continuity and adhering to canon regarding fan editing. I think it’s more fun to take an existing storyline and trying to improve it in more subtle/clever ways than just scrapping it all and starting from scratch.

Spartacus01 said:

It is not exactly a radical idea, but I would still like to propose it. Essentially, I believe I have found a way to integrate the scene from Attack of the Clones in which Anakin vents his grief to Padmé after his mother’s death, without necessarily including any mention of the massacre he committed against the Tusken Raiders.

My idea is quite simple: right after Anakin says, “It is all Obi-Wan’s fault. He is jealous. He is holding me back,” the scene would be cut immediately to the moment when he collapses to the ground and sits down, with Padmé approaching and saying, “To be angry is to be human.” I believe that, with the right cut, it could come across as realistic. This way, it would be possible to preserve the most important part of the scene — namely, Anakin’s desire for omnipotence and his determination to prevent people from dying — without keeping the part where he essentially admits to Padmé that he killed children.

To achieve this, I think the scene would need to be stripped of its original score and rescored entirely. However, I am fairly confident that it is feasible. What do you think?

I like this idea. The problem is that we’d need a long shot of Padme to not make it weird that Anakin teleports across the room. There is a reaction shot of her during his rant which could break up the shots but it’s only a second or two long. Perhaps it could be slowed down using a bit of slow motion in a sneaky way.

Same here actually haha. The biggest hurdle here is definitely the Vader duel, otherwise I could have had this done a long time ago.

Which dialogue reads better to you guys?

A: (Kylo) It was Palpatine who had your parents taken. He was looking for your father. But he learned he was a powerless failure. So he gave the order… Palpatine wants one of us to take the dark throne. I’ll come tell you why.

B: It was Palpatine who had your parents taken. He was looking for your father. But your father was a powerless failure. So he gave the order… He sees us both as heirs to the dark throne. I’ll come tell you why.

A was what I had originally had in mind, and B is what I’m considering due to space limitations and general flow.

At this point I’m waiting to see what PixelJoker95 does with the Kenobi flashback in his edit to determine if I’d like to see it in AotC instead. If it works well there and I like his edit, then I’ll just use this purist edit. If I don’t like his edit of Kenobi for some reason, then I’ll use Spence’s version of Kenobi and put the flashback into this edit.

Still haven’t watched this purist edit though; it’s downloading right now. Sounds like it came together nicely!

Vader scenes are a must imo.

Grand Admiral Thrawn said:

• Mon has been resigned from the Senate for several years at this point, but the radio guy on Yavin still chases after her yelling “Senator!!” to inform her of rebels on Scarif. It’s not too major, I just assume he’s calling her that out of respect.

They were still calling her Senator in the final three episodes of season 2. I wouldn’t worry about this one at all.

Feels a bit retcony, but I suppose it does work. And there are far worse retcons in the Star Wars universe.

Well, the problem is that I don’t think the Empire even existed when he was 6 years old. And we see in the show that he’s about 9 when he’s on the planet with his sister and the other kids. So none of it adds up.

What about the line where Cassian says he’s been in this fight since he was six years old?

Fair enough. I don’t think I reinstated that line either when I added the Yoda duel to a previous version of your edit. Only other thing I could see people bringing up in the future for AotC is this deleted snippet:

https://youtu.be/5Gbh08F061A?si=IJODHyKVgQ8trFy_

But it doesn’t paint a pretty picture for the guy who earlier in the film says they’re keepers of the peace, not soldiers. Granted, I do think showing the hypocrisy of the Jedi actually makes Anakin a more sympathetic character.

Sounds awesome!

Were you able to reinstate Obi-Wan’s line about Anakin potentially rivaling Master Yoda as a swordsman? Or was that too on the nose?

Some interesting changes here - especially the one about painting Han out of the wide shot with Kylo. Plenty of people were confused by this scene initially, I think doing something like that would make it clear it’s all in his head.

I was generating my lines based mostly on delivery, not necessarily on lip sync. Although they kind of go hand-in-hand at a certain point.

That works better than I imagined it would. Did you blend the AI and original delivery together?

I think my #2 matches her original delivery a bit better. But I don’t have enough time to actually compare in an editing software.

Here are a few ones so far. My personal preference is #2 but I haven’t actually tested any of them:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1CDGPUx7qz-QOwmsfZFM7hfj7fT0wdnNm?usp=sharing

And of course, if none of these are quite there yet, I can try adding in more voice samples to hone it in. This was just 37 seconds of her lines from the movie.

I will be working on an updated version this morning.

Octorox said:

Hal 9000 said:

Wouldn’t it be a little silly for Padmé to blurt out a name?

Yeah I could see that. My thought was that she’s frustrated and lets it slip because she’s trying to push the other senators to allow her to contact him, but you’re probably right.

Well, Obi-Wan is also a Jedi that probably has a very good reputation, so it’s worth at least mentioning his name to try and convince them

If you’d be willing to slot it into your extended version of ROTS Octo I could look into that for you.

I really do think the movie needs those deleted scenes in order to function. You can’t go from Anakin willing to do anything to save Padme one second to later saying that the Jedi and her are betraying him with absolutely no evidence. It makes sense that Obi-Wan is the only one she trusts with this topic since the last time she brings it up to Anakin he accuses her of acting like a Separatist.

I wish Disney would have released more of the deleted scenes with the 20th anniversary. The one between Obi-Wan and Padme where he admits he knows Anakin and her have feelings for each other and won’t tell on them would be perfect. I believe it would take place shortly before that second dream sequence and his first bit of paranoia.

Grand Admiral Thrawn said:

Grand Admiral Thrawn said:

Just thinking…

• Redo Poe’s Illum line
• Maybe cleanup/redo Finn’s: “It’s the First Order, they’ve found us line.”
• An angry line for Poe about making the First Order pay after the destruction of the Hosnian System (helping to explain why they are continuing the assault)
• Potential line for Lor San Tekka (or Kylo) clarifying that it isn’t a map that Luke left to find him, but a map that leads to an ancient Jedi Temple where Luke may be, clearing up the confusion on why Luke would leave a map if he didn’t want to be found.
• Maybe some kind of line before Rey leaves to find Luke about starting an evacuation soon because the First Order is coming to D’Qar to counterattack.
• Any Leia exposition lines that could be on comms during the Starkiller X-Wing battle?
• A Maz Kanata line about having to leave soon to go settle a union dispute (TLJ connection)
• Over the loudspeaker at the Resistance base in the background “Rose Tico, please report to maintenance.”

Hey @JarJar, I posted this before. Not sure if any of these are feasble.

I actually think Finn’s “they’ve found us” line sounds quite good.

Kylo would probably be the best person to replace lines for regarding the map. Changing from:
“The map to Skywalker. We know you found it…” to “The map to the first Jedi temple. Skywalker must be there. And now you’re going to give it to the First Order.”

I understand why they dumped in the part about San Tekka finding it to explain why both Kylo and Poe are only now going after it, but that’s just such a clunky explanation when it could be as simple as San Tekka keeping it a secret until he feels it’s the right moment.

I would be 100% on board with making any new AI lines for you, Nev.

Probably should start by updating the Poe line about the Ilum system so it sounds a bit better.

Since this edit is, at this point, mostly enhancing Kylo Ren’s character arc, I’m also wondering if I might be able to include a snippet of the deleted Kylo/Chewie interrogation scene that never released. There is a perfect opportunity where Rey is staring up at the Star Destroyer on Kijimi and is clearly hearing/seeing something to let her know Chewie is on that ship, but we as the audience are never given any indication as to what that could be. Here is what I’m thinking in terms of dialogue:

Kylo Ren (AI): Kill me! Kill the man who killed Han Solo!

Chewie roars in indignation.

And that would be it. Short, sweet, and simple. I could even get a maskless version of Kylo to say the line to make it a little more intimate between them.

Since we later see both Chewie and Kylo in pristine condition, we can logically assume that Chewie didn’t start a fight at all, which is yet another step toward Kylo’s redemption.

Any thoughts before I add this to the change-list?

I will never be able to unsee Anakin’s lightsaber getting caught on his Jedi robes lol. The one scene where a physical lightsaber prop wasn’t the greatest idea if they were so insistent on him keeping them on.

I don’t believe Hayden delivered Vader’s lines through an AI voice filter - although I could be wrong. It was my understanding that they just generated the lines until they were satisfied with the delivery, which is what I did for TROS Ascendant.

Unless he’s an audio wizard, I kinda doubt he’ll be touching the partially unmasked part where it’s a blend of Hayden and Vader’s voices.

yoshif8tures said:

My only critique is that it sort of comes to a sudden end and feels a bit open-ended. That might be an issue with the original source material, though.

It is indeed an issue with the source material. I wish we at least had some sort of indication whether Jod escapes or is brought into custody.