The only good thing about making it tatooine would be merging that sequence with Fennic’s. Story wise, that doesn’t quite work though. Finnic has to be after he decides to keep the child, which would make combining the planets awkward.
I know, but he’s already planning to include an “Episode 7” version for sequel haters, so I don’t see why one extra version would be a problem.
But if I was on a desert island and I could only have one version, I would probably prefer an opening crawl. The first half of the first episode has been cut in this version, so it’s the only way the plot could make sense without all that exposition.
Some of that exposition could be added back to when Dyn is bringing back The Child, seeing as in the series he was revisiting locations. Might be messy though. A lot of that early exposition is unnecessary, as it’s repeated later.
The first (successful) mission being lost might be required to add back in to show that he’s a good bounty hunter (since his mission to retrieve the Child is full of failures and I believe the Tattooine adventure was cut). That would be the only thing I could think of to add back in if the crawl was cut.
FWIW, I’d recommend the Rogue One style opening. ALTAIAGFFA card, then cut to an opening shot. I don’t imagine backstory or exposition via text would be any more useful for a movie adaptation than it was(n’t) for the original show.
Half of the introductory episode has been cut, all of that exposition is being moved into the crawl.
Solo also had an opening crawl.
I mean, It could have been a crawl, but it didn’t actually… crawl.
I feel like just cold-opening is the best call, but if you feel like you need it something up front to make it “feel theatrical” I’d agree with the post above that suggests you do it in the A Long Time Ago font like Solo did, and fade the text in and out between paragraphs
It didn’t crawl, but it served the function that the crawl serves… it was just executed poorly in Solo. With the convoluted setup, and how much has been cut in that first act, I think a traditional crawl is helpful. That allows a context to be formed about who The Mandalorian is and why he’s travelling to retrieve The Child. Also, with the goal of making it feel like a traditional Star Wars film, instead of the anthology content it already is, using the format of a traditional saga film makes sense.
I wonder if it would flow better to cut Mando in the cockpit so that the first time we see him is stepping off the Razor Crest? I suppose you could include the shot of him from behind. It would add a little mystery to who is piloting the ship as it descends on the planet.
Really love this idea, glad it’s being incorporated.
Is there any footage from the second trip to Arvada that could be usable for that transition? I haven’t looked at either scene in a while.
Did Carrie voice Leia for the game?
I believe the new planets that could be do-able, make sense in-universe and are significant enough are
- Naboo
- Corellia
- Kashyyyk
- Cantonica (Maybe that shot with the broom kid could be repurposed)
- Kijimi.
If I had to choose one planet from the expanded universe, I’d say Nevarro.
That way one has representation for all trilogies and the spin-offs, including planets that are significant to the heroes in some way (Corellia, Kashyyyk), or that were seen placed under a nasty First Order regime (Kijimi), making the montage have more of a catharsis feel rather than adding planets for the sake of it.
Is Kijimi not exploding in this edit? I missed that change.
I had considered the night scene of Theed from the end of Episode 1. For Geonosis, the cliff scene overlooking the hive when Obi-Wan arrives. Takodana, take the clip in TFA of Maz’s castle with all the flags and Utapau can be from some of the trailers. Either the night scene of the Stormtroopers on the walkers or day scene before the battle begins could work for Kashyyyk. Idk if you would want any TCW planets.
I think Coruscant, Takodanna, Kashyyyk and Theed make the most sense, the population of Geonosis is extremely low after Death Star experiments theres nothing really left there at all.
I haven’t looked at the footage from Solo, but Corellia would be a good one, story-wise. I don’t know that Geonosis would thematically work. Jakku doesn’t even really fit as it’s not really a populous place being freed from tyranny either… but it’s there for Rey.
Coreilla would definitely work, Kessel too on that note. But I think Geonosis would be good and logically wouldn’t the First Order attempt to take it for the same reason that the Empire did?
The Empire stripped it of its resources, so I can’t imagine the First Order needing time claim it again. With Kessel, we only have live-action footage of the mines, not the cities.
Personally, I feel like the scene should be about people becoming free more than places; Geonosis and Kessel (and Jakku) aren’t populated places, just recognisable places. It’s supposed to be about liberation of people, y’know?
I had considered the night scene of Theed from the end of Episode 1. For Geonosis, the cliff scene overlooking the hive when Obi-Wan arrives. Takodana, take the clip in TFA of Maz’s castle with all the flags and Utapau can be from some of the trailers. Either the night scene of the Stormtroopers on the walkers or day scene before the battle begins could work for Kashyyyk. Idk if you would want any TCW planets.
I think Coruscant, Takodanna, Kashyyyk and Theed make the most sense, the population of Geonosis is extremely low after Death Star experiments theres nothing really left there at all.
I haven’t looked at the footage from Solo, but Corellia would be a good one, story-wise. I don’t know that Geonosis would thematically work. Jakku doesn’t even really fit as it’s not really a populous place being freed from tyranny either… but it’s there for Rey.
his passion for Rey lit a flame in the cockpit
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🤣😂🤣
That would be kind of funny if he just randomly crash landed and they were still just like “oh hey lol.”
Maybe Rey says “are you alright?” And Kylo replies “no”.
Probably used the old TIE from the death star.
But why did the wings come off? They were fine from Kef Bir to Exegol, and theoretically to Tatooine as well. Did the old lady attack his ship?
One would assume that it couldn’t withstand another flight?
But it did, it make it from Exegol to Tatooine before falling apart… TIE fighters don’t really fly without the wings, for him to be there it had to have flown there.
Probably used the old TIE from the death star.
But why did the wings come off? They were fine from Kef Bir to Exegol, and theoretically to Tatooine as well. Did the old lady attack his ship?
An interesting way of incorporating Ben into the Tatooine scene :
https://youtu.be/UfRrRoXDCQI
That’s interesting. Would you also delete the sequence from Pasaana? And why did he crash on Tatooine?
If only there were some deleted scenes of exactly that they could release…hm…
I mean, if they released the deleted footage, I’m sure all of our fan edits would drastically change things.
Has anyone thought of replacing Leia’s lightsaber with Rey’s yellow saber from the end of the film? Leia’s Jedi training always seemed strangely out of place to me.
I feel like to sell it, you’d need something establishing she built the saber. Because otherwise, why is she using Luke’s saber throughout the movie?
Random idea regarding Palpatine:
One gripe I’ve heard people bring up before is Palpatine committing the “Evil Gloating” trope when he tells Rey that if she kills him, his spirit will pass into her.
Palpatine: You want to kill me. That is what I want. Kill me, and my spirit will pass into you, as all the Sith live in me.
This may have been suggested before, but I was thinking this line could be moved to Kylo’s first scene with Palpatine, replacing Palpatine response after one of these two lines:
Kylo: I killed Snoke. I’ll kill you.
or
Kylo: You’ll die first.
I personally think it would fit better to replace Palpatine repeating the “to cheat death” line that doesn’t do anything beyond being a callback. Either way, I think this change would accomplish a few things. First, we get a stronger explanation and understanding of Palpatine’s true nature and means of survival at the beginning of the film rather than the end. Second, it provides a good reason for why Kylo didn’t just immediately kill him. And third, it creates dramatic irony during the climax, because we know what is at stake if Rey kills Palpatine, but she doesn’t. So hopefully the audience would react by thinking, “No no no, Rey, don’t do it he’ll possess you!”
While I think moving that scene would be good, for Kylo’s arc, it kinda creates a plot hole… because now there’s no reason for Rey to pause on killing Palpatine. She initially is going to kill him, is given that reveal, then chooses to fake out and help Kylo. The motivation for that sequence is that she can’t kill Palpatine.
There were so many references to Finn being force sensitive in TROS that it can’t be anything else other than him telling Rey.
I doubt the cast will return for another movie so I’m sure we’ll find out in a comic or something soon.
What’s everyone’s take on Doomcocks info that Disney is gonna introduce different timelines to bypass the sequels?
Absolutely and hilariously ridiculous. Doomcock is a) an idiot, b) an asshole, and c) an idiotic asshole. He’s never been right about anything on a level beyond ‘a broken clock is right twice a day’.
To be fair Doomcock predicted just about everything in TROS before release, including how Palpatine died again
To be fair, a draft of the script leaked and a lot of people “predicted” those things…
Looking over your cutlist and watching your samples, I think this is one of the cleanest looking trilogy edits I’ve seen proposed. It’s focused and not overly ambitious.
Thanks!
I really like that you moved the arrival at Ahch-To to the beginning of TLJ. From the first time I watched TFA, I thought the hyperspace jump was the natural place to end the movie. I feel the rest of it was tacked on to shoehorn Mark Hamill in for marketing. If I ever do a full trilogy edit, this would be a must for me.
I’ve always felt that way too. I personally don’t like when characters are used as McGuffins, reserving him for the next movie where he is a character rather than object was one of the first changes I made.
The only edit I’m not too sure about is the delay of Chewie’s reveal in TRoS. I feel like a fair amount has happened in the movie by that point, so why are Hux and Pryde only getting to Chewie now?
I kept part of their exchange about there being something more than Rey escaping, mainly to help fix the plot hole element. I’m delaying the specifics and that reveal because the fake-our death lowers the stakes of the overall narrative, and distracts us from Rey’s turmoil and self-distrust. We need to empathise with her belief that she killed Chewie, it’s harder to do that when we not only know in the back of our minds Chewie isn’t dead, but we’ve seen him alive and well in the film already.
I also agree that Hal’s structural changes would be ideal. It doesn’t change the story, it just helps it flow better while reducing the feel of copying ANH.
I really like his structural changes, but I’m still sitting with them. I had already planned out most of these changes prior to discovering this site or his edit. I like that it doesn’t mirror A New Hope, but having a larger battle on Takodana creates a plot hole where the smaller faction of First Order fighters were overrun by the Resistance coming in full force.
If a Star Destroyer and those resources were available, Kylo would have not abandoned Finding BB-8. He would have been able to capture Rey, but still been able to keep the fight going until he captured BB-8, or even killed his parents (as was already on his mind). Without being able to reconcile those elements and character motivations, it’s harder for me to commit to them.
Idea: place Poe’s “can we kiss?” line during the final celebration when he’s embracing with Finn.
If the shot’s not long enough I remember a much longer alternate take/different angle existing in the documentary.
For the record I am desparate for these two characters to be in love because I desperately want to see people like me on the big screen for longer than one second.
That’s one of the changes I made in my version. I posted the clip somewhere in this thread, but it might be simpler to point you to this thread instead.
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Sequel-Trilogy-Special-Edition-StormPilot/id/75425
Hadn’t come across StormPilot before but those changes for me flow a lot more naturally than the forced ReyLo we got 😦
It’d be nice to have at least one arc in the ST 😃Cheers, Paul
Thanks, glad you like those changes. I’m just about finished with a first pass at them. Not sure how distribution works though.
There were so many references to Finn being force sensitive in TROS that it can’t be anything else other than him telling Rey.
I doubt the cast will return for another movie so I’m sure we’ll find out in a comic or something soon.
What’s everyone’s take on Doomcocks info that Disney is gonna introduce different timelines to bypass the sequels?
No alternate timelines. Alternate places in the timeline, sure. But that stuff will stay canon.
The references to him being Force sensitive are still few and far between, and always separated from his interactions with her. The first time he tries to tell her something, he hasn’t figured it out for himself yet. It’s just clumsy, and with chasing Rey around for two movies, that’s what people thought was on his mind… again.
Cutting down his crush on Rey from the other movies helps sell the idea of his Force sensitivity, while laying the (optional) groundwork For StormPilot.
Idea: place Poe’s “can we kiss?” line during the final celebration when he’s embracing with Finn.
If the shot’s not long enough I remember a much longer alternate take/different angle existing in the documentary.
For the record I am desparate for these two characters to be in love because I desperately want to see people like me on the big screen for longer than one second.
That’s one of the changes I made in my version. I posted the clip somewhere in this thread, but it might be simpler to point you to this thread instead.
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Sequel-Trilogy-Special-Edition-StormPilot/id/75425
Finn’s motivations across all three films was his crush on Rey. Removing that already helps his character have more depth.
I’d volunteer