JakeRyan17

idir_hh said:

As the boy pulls the broom to him and begins sweeping, a voice crackles into a distant speaker. It is Poe, saying ‘We are not alone. What our mothers and fathers have fought for we will not let die. Today we make our last stand…for the galaxy!’ Many ships jump into hyperspace here, not just one.

Goosebumps.

Edit: Since Crait is now the opening of the film do you plan on including palpatines broadcast in there in some capacity? After the galaxie’s decline to help, hearing the broadcast could be what sets up the rallying of the people’s Fleet at the end of the film.

I integrated the Broadcast into the Crait sequence here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tUe4Nz4dKptm5UzcBu2QhX9N9FuaISoa/view?usp=sharing

It still may not be useful, but its definitely possible to integrate.

Hal 9000 said:

Lol, it’s hard to deny the power of having that be the ship he uses, even if a shuttle seems more “”“realistic”"". Let’s toss it around but I’d be okay with it.

For now, here’s the best I could do with the audio for now, at least. It sucks because I have to fade out of the audio before the TIE sounds begin, which is a little different from each channel. Music fills the gap, then it has to transition into later in the track, then transition to the following scene’s audio.

It… sucks? A little bit. Anyone is of course welcome to give it a shot. it’s a first pass, and often a second or third can crack something. But it’s all I have time for for now!

https://vimeo.com/421773293

That’s similar to what I’m doing in my edit. One recommendation I’d have is to, instead of using a wipe up, wipe from left to right matching the direction of the Falcon. This way the feather of the wipe is “following” the Falcon.

Lifeincontext said:

JakeRyan17 said:

One way to better set up the redemption arc would be use more TROS scenes, like opening with Kylo travelling to Exegol, and threading more of the Palpatine plot through the film. Instead of Kef Bir, this is where Snoke’s throne room fight could structurally be, since both battles kind of achieve the same thing. You could possibly cut Rey out of the Crait sequence, and suggest she stole Kylo’s TIE from Snoke’s Star Destroyer and took it to Ahch-To just after Luke died.

I’d have to look closer to see if that would work, but it would allow the throne room fight to be the end of the second act, and the fight on Exegol to be the end of the third act.

Good thoughts. I definitely think putting in Kylo’s journey to Exegol might be good. But I really don’t want to put in Palpatine for various reasons. The biggest is that it makes the film too packed for the run time. But also, it’s one of my goals to keep the story closer to something that doesn’t retcon much from the original films.

I get that. I’d then look for a way to make the battle on Kef Bir the third act. That way you can integrate the conversation with Han which really is when he transitions. Or you could try and imitate the movements to go into a Force vision (similar to Rey on Takodana) to then show Kylo and Han on Kef Bir. You could even use some of the footage from Starkiller Base in place of the repeated lines to make it more abstract and unilateral to Kylo and Rey’s Force chats.

One way to better set up the redemption arc would be use more TROS scenes, like opening with Kylo travelling to Exegol, and threading more of the Palpatine plot through the film. Instead of Kef Bir, this is where Snoke’s throne room fight could structurally be, since both battles kind of achieve the same thing. You could possibly cut Rey out of the Crait sequence, and suggest she stole Kylo’s TIE from Snoke’s Star Destroyer and took it to Ahch-To just after Luke died.

I’d have to look closer to see if that would work, but it would allow the throne room fight to be the end of the second act, and the fight on Exegol to be the end of the third act.

I get what you guys are saying about The Last Jedi needing time show the state of the Galaxy, but I think the focus was on the characters. There was no more Republic after The Force Awakens, so why bother trying to explain that needlessly complicated political dynamic? I thought he did a good job just trying to move things forward, rather than trying to explain choices of another director or answer questions that never had an answer to begin with.

To that point, I think the use of Rebels and Resistance are both good together. The Resistance got its name from twisting the rise of The First Order, but now that they have that control, now that there is no Republic, the First Order is becomIng the establishment. They are rebelling against what has been established, and still resisting that takeover.

I think a 6-in-1 edit would be possible, especially as you could just use a couple of scenes from the prequels as flashbacks to establish Vader as Luke’s father. You could also find a way to merge the two death stars into a single location. Either way, it would be incredibly difficult to take 12 hours that span a story of 40 years into 2 hours… and even more difficult to integrate the sequel trilogy.

Darth Sadifous said:>

Any progress lately? Now after the events of TRoS, do you think you will change anything within this edit to make the trilogy more cohesive? Some have suggested the Dyad being mentioned in TFA so it is foreshadowed and isn’t so out of left field in TRoS. Anyways, I look forward to any future updates with this project. Loved the last version; keep up the great work!

One way to mention the dyad could be to copy Palpatine’s dialogue from The Rise of Skywalker to place in Rey’s vision at Maz’s castle, when Rey sees Kylo and the Knights of Ren.

Knight of Kalee said:

I think the best idea to retroactively tie the sequel trilogy films together is by doing it the subtle way. For example, the brief Palpatine hints that are scattered across the Rekindled edit of TLJ (like his silhouette at the cave scene, his laugh during Luke’s flashback, or Snoke’s eyes turning yellow after he’s mortally wounded), that culminate in Palps’ “find me” at the end.

For example, the vision in TFA would be a great part to put a hint of Palpatine’s involvement, like the shot where young Rey watches Ochi’s ship depart Jakku.

In my cut of TFA I add the chanting of the Sith cultists and Palpatine’s laugh to Rey’s vision. I also adjust her conversation with Maz to take out the “There’s still someone that could” and Rey’s assumption that Luke is her father.

Knight of Kalee said:

“Sith Eternal” is a name I can live with. It explicitly states the Sith nature of the faction, bringing the story of the saga full circle (back to the essential Jedi-Sith conflict) and it doesn’t recycle either Empire or Order. But I think maybe some dialogue tweaking could serve to further establish that the First Order is either subservient to, or merged with, the Sith Eternal/Final Order. The distinction between the two organisations is not very clear when taking only the film as reference.

The only thing I’ll defend about the name “Final Order” is it helps establish the painstakingly dumb name of the First Order. These were phases for his return. It would be great if there was a way to adjust the line to be the “Final Order of the Sith Eternal” or something similar.

Cameron Samurai said:

I saw your clips and I absolutely admire the direction you take with them, Palpatine emerging at the end of Force Awakens feels very natural and, as you say, helps further Kylo’s modus operandi in the movie, and I like the twist of the “kill the past” narrative, that way it’s not just something he can flip flop over, there’s a clear intention that can be accomplished whether he stays good or evil.

Here’s where I’d place Rey finding out about her grandfather towards the end of Last Jedi

https://vimeo.com/421463204

password: fanedit

Thanks, glad you liked the clips. I like that idea conceptually, of having Kylo talk to Rey in that scene, but Kylo’s voiceover being the mask before it’s repaired (which was very ritualistic and significant for his character) seems odd to me. I had frankenbit some of Palpatine’s lines and placed there to urge Kylo to attack her, that way their last look at each other can keep that feeling of uneasiness, rather than putting a major reveal there.

I guess after the reveal of Snoke and Palpatine, I just treat them as one character. So, Palpatine is effectively throughout The Last Jedi, disguised as Snoke. In the order of events, Palpatine reveals himself to Kylo only in Force Awakens, then after Kylo kills Snoke to save Rey Palpatine reveals himself to the entire galaxy, taking away the autonomy and power Kylo was fighting to gain throughout The Last Jedi. This way the character arcs in all three films stay largely in tact.

That makes sense. Honestly, since release, Last Jedi has been my favourite of this trilogy. The alterations I’m making are minimal, and more about adding the deleted scenes than cutting things out. I posted a detailed list of what I did here:
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Sequel-Trilogy-Special-Edition/id/75425#1347868

I Liked having Kylo know about Palpatine going into The Last Jedi, because it adds more weight to him asking her to take his hand. He knows there’s more out there, and he wants to stay in control of the First Order to “kill the past”.

Terrybartoner said:

https://youtu.be/L_8-dWSLDWI

I thought this video was very insightful on the score and I do feel like rescoring is the best way to go, unfortunately the only piece of music on par with the other films is the new motif that plays when they all hug at the end in my opinions

This video also made me think about re-scoring the film… but that’s such a daunting task for my free time, haha. He does a lot of great music analysis.

skenera said:

idir_hh said:

I think the colour needs to go little darker on the purple, like this.
https://youtu.be/7_dwkjQHre0

OK, this should be closer: Part 1 and Part 2

Okay, I’m only on page 47 of the 108 pages in this thread, but that’s AMAZING. If you don’t mind, I’d also love to use it in my edit as well. Abrams, who’s entire style is prioritising visuals over story, surprisingly went with another dull blue lightsaber. (Back to catching up in the thread…)

I’d love to re-add more deleted scenes from The Force Awakens, such as Kylo searching through Falcon, but I’m not skilled enough to remove the timecode burn-ins.

I know I’m not the first to make special editions of the sequel trilogy, but I thought I’d share what changes I’m making to help the trilogy becoming more cohesive. My goal is largely to keep the directors’ intent intact, though my one indulgence they never intended is helping “StormPilot” into the films (I’ll denote changes I made to serve these purposes).

The Force Awakens 34 seconds longer

• Re-inserted 21C Peasant’s Restoration of Finn and the Villager deleted scene.

• Re-inserted the first half of the deleted scene “Jakku Message” between Phasma telling Finn to put his mask on and Rey’s introduction. I cut everything after Leia says "Never Underestimate a droid (including the officer’s response). This helps introduce Leia earlier in the film, and sets up Rey finding BB-8 shortly after.

• As many have done, I cut Kylo remembering Finn’s name/number.

• Inserted NeverarGreat’s version of the Deleted scene “Leia and the Resistance” that had been modified to include part of “Jakku Message” where Snap Wexley asks Leia if they should contact the Republic.

• Cut Finn asking if Rey has a boyfriend. (#StormPilot)

• Cut Finn finding the Lightsaber Training Remote drone.

• Cut Snoke calling Kylo the “Master of the Knights of Ren” since that didn’t really go anywhere.

• Cut Han’s line “People who knew him best…” as that kinda confuses Luke’s motivations. It matters more why he left, which Han had already mentioned, than where (which they have half a map to anyway).

• Cut the first time Finn asks Rey to come with him at Maz’s Castle. (#StormPilot)

• Cut Finn’s line "You Looked at me like no one ever had. (#StormPilot)

• Added audio of the Sith Cultists’ chant and Palpatine’s laugh to Rey’s Force vision and cut Maz telling Rey there is someone who could still come back for her and Rey’s response suggesting Luke is her father.

• Cut C-3PO’s red arm dialogue, and Han’s redundant “I saw our son.”

• Cut C-3PO’s Line “It’s doubtful that R2 has the rest of the map” since he does. Retained the exposition about low-power mode.

• Added “Kylo Searches the Falcon” thanks to xxtelecine 7xx removing the timecode burn-in.

• Cut down Rey and Finn’s reunion hug to be less romantic. (#StormPilot)

• Cut the amount of times Finn shouts “Rey” when she’s knocked out by Kylo. (#StormPilot)

• Changed Snoke’s line to Hux, as Starkiller Base collapses, to “Have Kylo Ren come to me. It is time.” to set up the new cliffhanger.
  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1x6D30tDtGy9CvefkYC6iPZ0xvgZericq/view?usp=sharing

• Cut everything after the Falcon leaves D’Qar into hyperspace. Instead of showing Rey and Chewie in the Falcon and arriving at Ahch-To, I cut to Kylo in his TIE travelling to Exegol and meeting Palpatine at the beginning of The Rise of Skywalker (cutting out the line where Kylo mentions killing Snoke). This helps better set-up the overall arc of the trilogy, but doesn’t really change Kylo’s arc looking for autonomy (from Han in Force Awakens, from Leia, Luke and Snoke in The Last Jedi, and from Palpatine in Rise of Skywalker), but unifies Snoke and Palpatine from the beginning.

The Last Jedi 5 minutes, 48 seconds longer

• Cut down Poe and Hux’s conversation to have less jokes and fix the pacing of this opening sequence.

• Repurposed footage of The Millennium Falcon arriving at Takodana as Ahch-To to match films across the series showing ships arrive at planets to lead into footage originally from The Force Awakens of Rey and Chewie arriving at Ahch-To, integrating this into the sequence already in The Last Jedi. This helps not have such a buildup from a cliffhanger. With v2 I have re-added some of the introductory shots of Luke to build up his reveal.

• Re-inserted the deleted scene “Luke Has a Moment”.

• Cut out Luke milking the thala-siren to fix the pacing of this sequence.

• Re-inserted the deleted scene “Poe: Not Much of a Sewer”. (#StormPilot)

• Added Palpatine telepathically goading Kylo to kill Leia:
  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bwXR7hUwZ7lZLbEfBkLQiRYZhi6K6sdN/view?usp=sharing

• Re-inserted deleted scene “It’s Kinda Weird You Recorded That” right before Finn packs, to help motivate him to attempt saving Rey. This helps make their connection more about friendship and trying to save someone that saved his life.

• Cut Rey’s line to Chewie “And ask about Finn”. (#Stormpilot)

• Re-inserted deleted scene “Caretaker Village Sequence” to better establish Luke’s mindset, motivation, and overall worldview.

• Extended the “Mega Destroyer Incursion” sequence to include Finn being recognised by other stormtroopers (Tom Hardy). I only included part of the deleted sequence, avoiding the unfinished effects.

• Cut Kylo describing Rey’s parents as “Filthy junk traders” who sold her off for drinking money. Rey says “They were nobody” and then Kylo replies “They’re dead, in a pauper’s grave…” This allows for the later revelation of her heritage to be smoother.

• Added Palpatine’s Fortnite message between the Resistance not receiving any messages from allies and Luke’s arrival. During the message, I show the Star Destroyers above Mustafar (TROS), Stormtroopers Marching (TROS), repeated an exterior of Canto Bight (TLJ), Poe Standing up (moved up from being a reaction to Luke), a shot of Kylo, and then back to Leia.
  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tUe4Nz4dKptm5UzcBu2QhX9N9FuaISoa/view?usp=sharing

• Cut Rey’s and Finn’s long hug. (#StormPilot)

• Added a couple of lines from Palpatine as voiceover/telepathy during the final moments between Kylo and Rey on Crait.
  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1s-thAiSISTEYqjn0oiyRuoWgdiBScyZ-/view?usp=sharing

• Cut Rey staring at Finn taking care of Rose. Finn still covers Rose, but Rey watching and the second, wider shot of Finn tucking Rose in is cut. It goes from close-up of Rose to the close-up of Rey when Leia enters frame. Even without StormPilot, this interaction further cements a love triangle between Rose, Finn, and Rey that never gets paid off. (#StormPilot)

• Cut the “Broom Boy” sequence from the ending to be used in The Rise of Skywalker.

The Rise of Skywalker 13 minutes, 20 seconds shorter

• Changed Opening Crawl

• Cut Opening sequence on Mustafar and Exegol (Used in Force Awakens), and rearranged the shot order of the Millennium Falcon arriving at the Sinta Glacier Colony, to make the Falcon’s flyby that reveals the Sinta Glacier Colony the opening shot (As every opening scene starts in space).

• Cut the hyperspace skipping.

• Cut Finn saying that he needed to tell Rey something. (#StormPilot)

• Moved a shot of Kylo traveling in his TIE to when Finn turns and feels Kylo’s arrival with the Force to make this clearer.

• Cut Rey destroying Kylo’s TIE, since it has the Wayfinder and is stolen and destroyed by Rey again later.

• Reframed shots of Kylo to make make Kylo’s smouldering TIE less noticeable (Not good enough at VFX to remove the wreckage and smoke).

• Cut Hux informing Pryde of the prisoner, and moved the reveal of Chewie to later (Between Poe and Zorri going up to the roof and Babu working on 3PO)
  https://drive.google.com/file/d/13s_K-gDKT1FjeDzmz_jRLFOlSyk9B6ci/view?usp=sharing
  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xzdgClxYMrRO-nkuPsMuzIOm9okmzowM/view?usp=sharing

• Cut C-3PO talking one last look at his friends, cut the sequence down to make it less dramatic (one fake death is enough).

• Cut Zorri asking if Poe wants to join her. (#StormPilot)

• Moved Pryde and Hux telling Kylo about Kajimi to after Poe and Zorri’s talk on the roof.

• Cut Poe asking Zorri to join them and to kiss her (#StormPilot)

• Cut lines where Rey’s mother says she’s not on Jakku (that’s the first place someone would look after hearing that) and the redundant “You’re a Palpatine” by Kylo.

• Re-arranged the shots of Leia and the duel of Kylo and Rey to better sync and establish that Leia is influencing Kylo through the Force. Leia drops the headset right after Kylo pauses, her whisper of “Ben” is what causes him to turn around, then show Connix escort Leia (without Maz’s narration), Kylo drops the saber and gets stabbed, Leia’s silhouette, Rey senses Leia and heals Ben, Rey steals the TIE, Leia lays down and says “Bring him home” (from TFA, to Han), back to Kylo.
  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hBiL84mei6U3zlNsCw29zn5wElLBopwG/view?usp=sharing

• Cut the expository lines “You’re just a memory…” as it makes the situation more confusing than it just being a Force Ghost/vision summoned by Leia.

• Moved the shot of Leia’s hand falling to the end of Ben and Han’s talk, just before the wipe to Palpatine telling Pryde that the princess of Alderaan interfered with his plans. Everyone surrounding Leia’s body has been moved after that scene.

• Destruction of Kajimi follows Chewie’s cry, and precedes Rey arriving at Ahch-To. As Rey burns the TIE, Poe asks “Kajimi, how?” moving into that reaction sequence.

• Cut Luke’s comment about throwing away the lightsaber. After he asks “What are you doing?” I cut to Poe talking to Leia, saying “I don’t really know…” to generally sync these two mentor conversations that follow.

• Adjust the arrivals at Exegol to have Rey further ahead of the Resistance. Rey is already in the Exegol temple/palace while the fleet is travelling.

• Cut Zorri’s return at the Battle of Exegol. (#StormPilot)

• Added the line “I’m Rey Skywalker” to when she’s facing Palpatine (back to the camera) after her pep talk from the ghosts. I’m thinking about instead of re-using the line from the Tatooine scene, to use a stronger read of the name “Skywalker” from somewhere else in the series when she’s referring to Luke.
  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PgWPmFNwS-8gVolohSmydxuRMPrsVBgi/view?usp=sharing

• Adjusted a lot of the Resistance celebration. Rose’s line is louder and her hug with Chewie is cropped to be a close-up. Maz repeats some of her lines to Rey in voiceover, suggesting that Lando is Jannah’s daughter. She smiles in reaction to a slightly shorter version of the scene between Lando and Jannah. D’Acy and Tyce‘s kiss is also cropped to be a close-up (if LGBTQ+ representation is gonna be this scarce, might as well give it a close up). Zorri is cut out, and Poe’s flirtation is directed at Finn instead, he even asks if he can kiss Finn (#StormPilot).
  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DUXM3TIlAJKR8pH2sMwvhbrzjWZt6XwL/view?usp=sharing

• Moved the scenes at Bespin, Endor, and Jakku to after the reunion of Rey with Poe and Finn. This is followed by the Broom Boy sequence from the end of The Last Jedi, with the story being told adjusted from “Luke Skywalker, Jedi Master” to “Jedi Skywalker” so that it can refer to Rey.
  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DUXM3TIlAJKR8pH2sMwvhbrzjWZt6XwL/view?usp=sharing

• Cut the Tatooine sequence completely. Laying Luke to rest at the home he only wanted to leave, and where Leia had only been the sex slave of a giant slug not only seemed super disrespectful, but also doesn’t seem like Rey would know about the place. Also not having a ghost for Ben doesn’t line up with the precedent from Return of the Jedi.

Here is a link to samples of some adjustments if you’re curious:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1PC9SLgB6oweXn9o_Nm3N_e3rLbJMaKht?usp=sharing

Sir Ridley said:

Thank you for the suggestion! I’ve considered ending with the Falcon going into hyperspace. But that depends on if and how I fit that sequence into TLJ. I feel like if the arrival on Ahch-To is moved to TLJ I would like that to be the opening sequence, but perhaps it also works if it’s just inserted before the first Ahch-To scenes in TLJ. I haven’t made a final decision on that yet.

I thought about that as well, when I was trying to restructure the opening battle to be the 3rd act in The Force Awakens instead. That battle is really tricky, it both solidifies Poe as being a protagonist in The Force Awakens but it also is the inciting incident for almost all of the characters in The Last Jedi. I eventually landed with leaving it as is, and cutting down some of the jokes in the conversation between Poe and Hux. I also really love that opening shot to The Last Jedi from the stars, past the ships, down to D’Qar, which I don’t really think fits if it’s not the opening. By having Rey’s arrival cut down (I swap from Force Awakens to Last Jedi shots when Rey has her last look at Chewie) it makes the lightsaber moment less of a bait and switch after all of the buildup.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rARUzDyLV0hM6eQX4m5U7MkG7AEWxRmU/view?usp=sharing

Sir Ridley said:

Your other idea is interesting as well, but I don’t have any detailed ideas for editing TROS yet so I can’t say what I’ll do in that case.

Most of my ideas in Rise of Skywalker are cutting things down and re-arranging sequences to make more sense. Chewie being alive is revealed later, Rey arrives at Exegol while the Resistance is still planning on following her, etc. I cut down the romance with Zorri since she was basically only in the film so Disney could tell Asian markets “No homo!” and made the ending suggest romance between Poe and Finn.

I also put the First Order’s defeat across the galaxy after the heroes’ reunion, leading into a slightly altered version of The Last Jedi’s broom boy ending (so the other boy says “Jedi Skywalker” in his story to refer to Rey who chooses her new name while confronting Palpatine).

I really like a lot of the edits you’re making. One thing that I was going to suggest, that I’m doing for my own re-edit of The Force Awakens, on the topic of the ending is to cut everything after the Falcon leaves D’Qar into hyperspace. Instead of showing Rey and Chewie in the Falcon and arriving at Ahch-To (I add some of this footage to when the sequence is repeated in The Last Jedi), I cut to Kylo in his TIE travelling to Exegol and meeting Palpatine at the beginning of The Rise of Skywalker (cutting out the line where Kylo mentions killing Snoke). This helps better set-up the overall arc of the trilogy, but doesn’t really change Kylo’s arc looking for autonomy (from Han in Force Awakens, from Leia, Luke and Snoke in The Last Jedi, and from Palpatine in Rise of Skywalker), but unifies Snoke and Palpatine from the beginning. To help set this up, I also changed Snoke’s line to Hux as Starkiller base is collapsing to “Have Kylo Ren come to me…”

I also add Palpatine’s Fortnite message to The Last Jedi between the Resistance not receiving any messages from allies and Luke’s arrival and a couple of lines from Palpatine as voiceover/telepathy during the final moments between Kylo and Rey on Crait.

These are my biggest adjustments to help make the trilogy as a whole more cohesive. I made a lot of other changes throughout, but I thought I’d recommend this after I read you guys talking about the ending.

Here is a link to some of those adjustments if you’re curious. I also have a #StormPilot ending to Rise of Skywalker, haha.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1PC9SLgB6oweXn9o_Nm3N_e3rLbJMaKht?usp=sharing