Hardcore Legend

Clemintime said:

Ah, but that’s just it. You said you wanted a “lossless” capture method. You have to make a new recording that will capture the audio and put it on a new file, there’s no getting around that. As for the format and channels, while there are devices that capture audio in 5.1 they are all lossy. I know this because I myself have searched high and low for such a device that captures 5.1 sound in LPCM lossless format and it just doesn’t exist in the present time. If you want lossless, you’ll have to stick with 2.0 sound. If you’re willing to chance it on AC3 codecs and you’re not concerned with capturing in 4K, you might want to invest in a Hauppauge, those aren’t bad for $150.

When I said lossless, I meant pull the audio as it is being sent through by the broadcaster. However, I see what you are saying. The downside with Hauppauge (for the most part) is that if I stay with the cable provider, they still broadcast in MPEG2. I believe all Hauppauge devices capture in MPEG4 and only up to something like 13.5 MBps.

Thanks for your help!

yhwx said:
I think the Solo movie won’t have the benefits of the year-long marketing pushes for the previous three movies.

Or any marketing push.

At this point, the average fan probably doesn’t even know it comes out in 131 days.

Clemintime said:
If you have any further questions, let me know.

When I used to pull this channel from the wall with a PCTV stick, this is the type of file I was getting. I’d like to replicate this as close as possible. Heck, I’d love to be able to just pull the raw data (whether I stay with my MPEG2 cable provider or switch to DISH). If I do stay with my cable provider, is there a device that offers HDMI MPEG2 encoding that meets or exceeds 15 MBPS?

The device you linked to seemed like it was going to downconvert the audio to 2.0. Will it re-encode the audio or is there a way to capture the data as it is sent out by the receiver?

File: Mux type : TS Stream
TS mux rate : 16.957 Mbps
Video: Encoding : MPEG2
VideoStreamID : x840
Frame rate : 59.94 fps
Encoding size : 1280 x 720
Aspect ratio : 16:9
Header bit rate : 38.800 Mbps
VBV buffer : 976 KBytes
Profile : Main@High
Progressive : Progressive Only
Chroma : 4:2:0
Bit rate : 13.719 Mbps
Captioning : EIA 608/708
Field order : Progressive
Audio Stream: 1 (Primary) Codec : AC3
Channels : 5.1
Language : eng
PID : x841
PES Stream Id : xBD
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Sampling rate : 48000
Sample size : 16 bits
Audio Stream: 2 Codec : AC3
Channels : 2.0
Language : spa
PID : x842
PES Stream Id : xBD
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Sampling rate : 48000
Sample size : 16 bits

I may have to switch to Dish Network in the next few months. I’ve always been able to either record programming directly from the wall using a PCTV stick or using a firewire cable out the back of a Motorola box.

I’d like to get as lossless as possible captures from a Dish receiver. What is my best bet on a capture card and/or device. Internal is probably best so I don’t have to power multiple devices.

TV’s Frink said:

Why are you the way you are HL?

Too much TV and disappointment.

DominicCobb said:

The worst part of TLJ is the characters disrespecting 3PO. This is the worst part because never before have the characters in a Star Wars movie disrespected 3PO or told him to shut up.

Why are you the way you are?

I will say that I feel like the droids and non-human creatures are way underused/misused in this trilogy.

I thought this was something RO did well, even with a new Droid character.

Maybe now that the trinity are all dead (either on screen or off) they will give Chewbacca a bigger role. Or 3PO/R2 will be given to some of the new characters.

Mocata said:

It doesn’t help that it looks like Jyn doesn’t hasn’t slept in a week and K2SO is permanently surprised.

He did say Jyn’s behavior is contuinally unexpected. Could see why that’d leave him with that look.

So, when in this trailer debuting?

Any guesses on what appeared to be a kyber crystal that Luke had on the island? I think it was red. Could it be Vader’s? Could it be the rest of Kylo’s? Could I be misrembering all of this?

NeverarGreat said:

http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/star-wars/news/a847167/star-wars-mark-hamill-original-force-awakens-ending-luke-skywalker-the-force-last-jedi/

So JJ wanted Luke on the island to learn some wizard Jedi moves. Rian disagreed.

Interesting.

Too many cooks.

yhwx said:

This is a good Twitter thread that basically reflects my opinions on Luke in TLJ that I’ve tried to express in this thread. Here’s some selected snippets:
https://twitter.com/swankmotron/status/950408470846521344

From my perspective, given Luke’s inaction in TFA, this is the ONLY thing that could have been done with him. And why I’ve embraced the arc so much. I love it.

That just goes back to the problem of having Luke not involved in the story of TFA, or showing him at the end of the film.

yhwx said:

A perspective:

https://twitter.com/bobbyrobertspdx/status/950497196704608256

I mean, people still don’t even know what the hell Yoda EVEN IS, much less who his parents are.

But Rey Nobody from Nowhere gotta have her birth certificate & 2 forms of ID before we’ll let her lift some rocks & fly some spaceships real good.

OK.

This is a dumb tweet.

The characters aren’t presented in the same way.

TV’s Frink said:

I play Galaxy of Heroes, and naturally they are adding new TLJ characters to the game. Rose is apparently coming soon, and people are pissed if the official forum is any guide. People are actually saying she’s worse than Jar Jar.

smh

I’ve been critical of this film but I actually liked the subplot of her and Finn (even if it wasn’t really necessary).

People are weird.

one69chev said:

Frank your Majesty said:

The characters in the ST and their arcs are original, that’s good enough for me.

Yes, they are and, IMHO they are the best part of the ST thus far.

The new characters (Finn/Rey/Kylo) were created by George in his story treatment for the ST.

The single moment that put RJ in the position he was in when dealing with Luke in the TLJ is what happens in Starkiller base in TFA. JJ didn’t have Luke come to Han and Leia’s rescue. By having him allow Han to be killed, RJ had to have Luke be “broken” to explain it away.

You can agree or disagree with Luke’s character portrayal in TLJ. But it isn’t Rian’s fault. JJ left him nowhere to go.

TV’s Frink said:

Everyone will do a 360.

Rey is Sheev’s granddaughter: confirmed.

chyron8472 said:

Collipso said:

That’s just, from my point of view, Rian Johnson doing whatever he can to destroy everything that’s within his reach simply because he can, to prove some sort of point to someone.

Seriously?

That’s going a bit far.

It didn’t seem like he was destroying things just because he could (to me, at least). It did seem like he was continuing or building importance of things only to make them unimportant for some shock value. It would be the equivalent of the big “twists” of ESB (Vader=father/another hope) only coming after intentional misdirection. Like if Luke had been killed immediately into his battle with Vader, only to have Obi Wan reveal that there is another Skywalker. You are shocked by Luke’s death and then confused by this revelation and left wondering “what was the point of the last film and a half?!?”.

It isn’t “bad”, I just don’t think it holds up over time and you risk losing the viewer because they stop being invested when “nothing matters”.

Hopefully after the full trilogy has been released we can see Lucas’s story treatments. Originally, it seemed they threw out his ideas but now it appears they reworked his story and main characters.

JJ added an episode (TFA) before the start of George’s planned ST began.

I’m just interested in seeing how much of this is what he had in mind and how much is what RJ/JJ came up with.

My understanding was that Zuvio had a scene in daylight at the Outpost. We’ve seen stills.

They absolutely could leave Rey’s lineage as it stands at the end of TLJ. RJ said that JJ and he discussed the parentage, he was told he could do whatever he wants. That either speaks to JJ not caring where it went or a plan he had to do something in the 3rd film (which he became responsible for after the fact).

These are the latest comments I have seen by RJ about it and when asked point blank about it, he waffles:

"So, can I just make the statement, that’s who her parents are? They came from nothing, they’re buried in the desert, is that for sure?

RIAN JOHNSON: That’s what Kylo sees and that’s what he tells her and I think he’s not lying in that moment. That’s what he saw and she seems to believe it when she hears it. I don’t want to … I’m not writing the next film, we’ll see how they handle it going forward, and as we all know in these movies, there’s always a certain point of view that’s involved. But, for me, I’ll tell you that was the … I can understand why that answer doesn’t feel good. It’s not supposed to feel good. It’s supposed to be the hardest thing she could possibly hear in that moment."

Even when he doubles back to his own decision, he won’t just say “Yes”.

Just to further what is actually in the vision, this is from the official screenplay Disney used during awards season:

“A little girl. Rey as a child. She is sobbing, hysterical. Unkar Plutt’s meaty hand holds her thin arm. She is on Jakku, watching a starship fly into the sky, abandoning her.” Rey yells, “No, come back!” and Unkar Plutt responds, “Quiet, girl!” as the “ship flies towards the desert sun, which is strangely eclipsed, as if being eaten by darkness.”

The shot of Kylo and the Knights of Ren lists a ‘Warrior’ being killed. I, too, thought it was Zuvio when I saw the film. But that doesn’t make sense chronologically.

Also, it is Kenobi that speaks to her. Ewan McGregor was credited as coming in and doing voice-over work.

Matt.F said:

Hardcore Legend said:
-we now know all the visions have been things that actually happened, including Rey being there when the Knights of Ren and Kylo massacre the rest of the students in the rain and then he turns to attack Rey

Wtf? Rey wasn’t there?! Plus unless Ben Solo had his Kylo mask and black cowl hidden under his pillow then it didn’t happen like we see in Rey’s vision either. You’re taking it way too literally.

We now see the vision happens in chronological order:
-Luke is separated from Saber (literally)
-The new temple is destroyed
-Kylo and the Knights of Ren kill a large group of people. He then turns to see Rey (who is experiencing the vision)
-little Rey is left behind, crying out at ship to come back. Vision Rey turns to see the ship fly away as it turns into Starkiller base
-Kylo is chasing vision Rey through Starkiller forest and points Saber at her, as Rey “falls” out of vision

The only person that interacts with Rey is Kylo in this vision.

The things my phone chooses the change that aren’t misspelled makes some of my post like a really boring MADLIBS!

Matt.F said:

Now this ‘plothole’ about the spaceship leaving Jakku is nitpicking! You want an example of a pedantic nitpick, here is one!

This spaceship in the background is a tiny moment you have to freeze frame during a vision. I suppose Rey being on Cloud City is a plothole too - because I saw her there!! The whole segment is a vision, it is NOT literal. Even if you are taking it literally, then who is to say that her parents were on that spaceship, it’s entirely assumption (bit of visual misdirection hardly warrants it being canon now does it) - a plothole? Don’t make me laugh.

Did you miss the part where a little girl dressed exactly like Rey screams out at it “comeback” and Unkar tells her to be quiet? The girl is screaming towards the sky and Rey turns to see the skip flying away. It then transitions into Starkiller base (which also happened).

It wasn’t just a freeze frame moment, it is made to seem important. Again, it could be misdirection but two other parts of it have been shown to be true.

DominicCobb said:

Hardcore Legend said:

Collipso said:

What’s the problem with Rey’s vision of seeing her parents leave in a spaceship? I’m sure that would be extremely traumatic. Why do they have to be important people simply because she saw them leaving? Yes, the way it was setup left the audience wondering who are those people, and if we knew them. But the characters weren’t giving any fucks at all, except for Rey. I don’t see what’s the big deal about it. Simply because we saw them leave, it doesn’t make them more important or less, or changes who they are.

They were junkers that sold her for beer money but had a fancy ship they could leave the planet on? I guess they could have sold her for passage off the planet but Kylo says they are buried there on the planet.

I assumed the ship crashed. I honestly didn’t even consider it a potential discrepancy, I mean I suppose there is room for different interpretations (and who knows maybe JJ will incorporate the parents somehow?) but either way I don’t think it’s that big a deal.

Furthermore, it is implied Kylo knows her (or at least JJ was leaning that way). Besides the “what girl” line, in the novelization he says to her in the forest “it IS you!”

“What girl” is precisely because he doesn’t know her - “why is there someone else on Jakku who would be helping the droid escape and a kid, no less?”

When he says “It is you” he’s referring to the awakening he and Snoke felt. This is really the only reasonable interpretation in the context of not only TLJ but just TFA by itself. The line doesn’t make sense in any other way, unless you’ve built up an elaborate alternate completely unspoken of series of events in your head. (It’s likely they cut it out of the film because people would read things into it that weren’t there)

Why would you assume the ship crashed? There is nothing to imply it does. Rey cries out to the ship “come back” and she spends the entire film talking about waiting for her family to come back and get her.

All of it could have been misdirection by JJ, but there is a list of things that imply that everyone knows more about Rey’s family than she does:

-Kyle’s “WHAT girl?”
-the way JJ cuts away from Maz the second she asks Han “who’s the girl”
-the vision she has of the ship flying away and the girl crying out to it
-after talking to Han, Maz telling Rey the lightsaber “it belonged to Luke’s father, and Luke and now it calls to you” as if there is an importance to that line
-we now know all the visions have been things that actually happened, including Rey being there when the Knights of Ren and Kylo massacre the rest of the students in the rain and then he turns to attack Rey

The implication is Han, Maz and Kylo know who she is and that she is important. Maz makes her lineage seem important. Kathleen Kennedy has said that the saga films are about “the next generation of Skywalkers”. For the saga films to not die with this trilogy: Kylo has to be redeemed (which would be tough), Rey has to be a Skywalker, or Kylo wins and survives ending this trilogy on a down note.

Again, all of this could be classic JJ mystery box stuff but even RJ said that Abrams did not tell him where he was going with Rey’s parents so it appears RJ took all of these clues JJ left and threw them in the trash.

Which is why I still think that when JJ returns he gives Rey a Skywalker parent.

Collipso said:

What’s the problem with Rey’s vision of seeing her parents leave in a spaceship? I’m sure that would be extremely traumatic. Why do they have to be important people simply because she saw them leaving? Yes, the way it was setup left the audience wondering who are those people, and if we knew them. But the characters weren’t giving any fucks at all, except for Rey. I don’t see what’s the big deal about it. Simply because we saw them leave, it doesn’t make them more important or less, or changes who they are.

They were junkers that sold her for beer money but had a fancy ship they could leave the planet on? I guess they could have sold her for passage off the planet but Kylo says they are buried there on the planet.

Furthermore, it is implied Kylo knows her (or at least JJ was leaning that way). Besides the “what girl” line, in the novelization he says to her in the forest “it IS you!”