Hardcore Legend

SilverWook said:

Interesting. I haven’t been in a Denny’s in a long time though.

They don’t all look like that. Most don’t have live music.

Watched the deleted scenes. When people described the 3rd lesson scene, they made it seem cruel. I actually think it should have been left in. It was tense, then funny, had more R2 and Chewie in it and the ending was good towards showing Luke he was wrong for cutting himself off from everything.

Also, I know no one wants to rehash the Rey Nobody thing but I didn’t catch until this viewing that Snoke implies that not only did he create the connection between Rey and Kylo, but he planted the visions they saw when they touched. The one of Kylo turning was to get Rey to believe she could come to his ship and turn Kylo. I don’t know the reasoning behind giving Kylo the vision of Rey’s parents.

I may be wrong on that part but after this viewing, that’s how I took it. Both believe what they saw is true but it was just a manipulation by Snoke.

As far as the World Between Worlds, in my head, this is what the Jedi connect to when they ‘see the future’. They aren’t really clairvoyant but are like the Emperor was, opening a portal to this World Between Worlds with their minds in which they can see or hear everything the way Ezra was able to.

That’s just in my own head but it makes some sense. As time went on, the Jedi lost the story of WHY they could see a version of the future, they just knew they could.

Jeebus said:

DominicCobb said:

Collipso said:

I personally think it’s bullshit to say Ahsoka and/or Ezra survived because even though “I’m no Jedi” for the former, Ezra IS a Jedi. And that kind of destroys the idea that Luke is the Last Jedi. But I think it was bold enough already to kill two (one for sure) of the main characters.

Well we know Ezra is alive (based on Filoni statements, also so is Thrawn) but no idea what state he’s in. I’m imagining he’s sort of been out of commission in some way otherwise he’d have tried to make it back himself.

I definitely think there needs to be some explanation of what Ashoka was up to (and why, I suppose, Yoda felt they couldn’t rely on her).

I agree with this. I don’t care that she’s not technically a Jedi, she’s still a decently powerful light-side oriented force user that could have conceivably helped Luke and the rest of the OT rebels. I think that warrants an explanation.

When the Jedi needed her the most (ROTS), she abandoned the order. For all we know, she is trapped on Malacor for 10 years. She had no ship.

I like the feeling Rogue One and Rebels have given to the OT that the Rebel Alliance is only victorious because of a confluence of events. Now, the Empire fails at Yavin because Ezra took out Thrawn and Rogue One took out Krennic. Shortly after, the lose Tarkin. The upper levels of leadership are being thinned leaving Vader somewhat undermanned. The Emperor during this time is distracted with finding the Jedi temple/artifacts.

I’d look at Luke/Yoda during ESB in the light of all this new material as: Yoda is clinging to the dogma of the Jedi Order and Luke is the last hope of bringing it back. Also, they put additional importance on the son of Skywalker killing his father. Ahsoka had her chance at defeating Vader and failed.

It is easy to live with Ahsoka not helping Luke when you realize two in-their-prime Jedi masters refused to team up and hunt down Vader in the 20+ years before ESB.

People that say he won’t kill characters he cares about: He has written two shows that have been wedged up against main film continuity. He has used characters from the main film continuity and is unable to kill them.

So, basically, the only characters he is free to kill is the ones he creates as the main characters of his stories. That’s depressing.

Loved the finale. People who didn’t like the new parts of the force and the filler episodes certainly will have reservations of how it all ties together.

However, avoiding spoilers but I CAN NOT WAIT for them to start the next series.

oojason said:

‘Star Wars Rebels creator says his next Star Wars project will be announced soon’…

https://www.flickeringmyth.com/2018/02/star-wars-rebels-creator-says-next-star-wars-project-will-announced-soon/

 

I wonder if part of the delay in announcing this is because maybe it ties to the fate of some of these characters?

DominicCobb said:

Hardcore Legend said:

DominicCobb said:

Hardcore Legend said:

DominicCobb said:

CarboniteSolo said:

If they don’t, it will be the worst marketing ever.

Only if the movie fails.

Results don’t validate process.

I don’t think anyone here can really speak to what makes for success in marketing (especially when you consider most of us will see it anyway, trailer or not). I don’t think they wouldn’t put out another trailer, but if they don’t, they obviously have reasoning for that. If the movie succeeds, then clearly they had good reasoning.

https://www.affim.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/process-300x118.png

Read what I wrote again.

I’ve read it. You are stating that if the film succeeds, their reasoning was good. You are assuming the success is directly related to a decision that isn’t particularly traditional.

The one doesn’t prove the other, as I tried to explain.

DominicCobb said:

Hardcore Legend said:

DominicCobb said:

CarboniteSolo said:

If they don’t, it will be the worst marketing ever.

Only if the movie fails.

Results don’t validate process.

I don’t think anyone here can really speak to what makes for success in marketing (especially when you consider most of us will see it anyway, trailer or not). I don’t think they wouldn’t put out another trailer, but if they don’t, they obviously have reasoning for that. If the movie succeeds, then clearly they had good reasoning.

https://www.affim.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/process-300x118.png

DominicCobb said:

CarboniteSolo said:

If they don’t, it will be the worst marketing ever.

Only if the movie fails.

Results don’t validate process.

movie looks fun. Everyone seems believable. Haven’t seen anything yet from Ehenreich to make me believe he has the ‘Solo’ charisma. Even that clip of him telling everyone “it’s fine” seemed like a bad take.

He just seems muted. Ford always seemed to say he played Solo as the dumbest but most arrogant of his characters.

We’ve seen hardly any actual scenes or dialog, so maybe what we have seen was old footage before all the reshoots.

Still excited for the film. Still concerned about the lead.

Only thing I would be worried about is how little it focused on the main character of the film since that is who most of these doomsday rumor people have been complaining about.

Imperial installations seem so much bigger in these anthology films. Like, the hallways are 3 feet wider or something. I think it may be because they film showing both side in real locations and not on a stage?

Not a complaint.

We’ve got a trailer!

TV’s Frink said:

Hardcore Legend said:

DominicCobb said:

Hardcore Legend said:

TV’s Frink said:

I think he may have read the first sentence. Maybe two?

I didn’t read any of it, actually. I don’t read. I have news explained to me in short presentations so I don’t get bored.

This post is the first you’ve made on this topic that’s made any sense.

That’s a different way of looking at it.

Exactly what I thought of your first post about the article.

You clearly should re-read what I wrote and re-read the article in the first post.

Mocata said:

Does he exist any more?

DOES THIS FILM EVEN EXIST ANYMORE?!?

DominicCobb said:

Hardcore Legend said:

TV’s Frink said:

I think he may have read the first sentence. Maybe two?

I didn’t read any of it, actually. I don’t read. I have news explained to me in short presentations so I don’t get bored.

This post is the first you’ve made on this topic that’s made any sense.

That’s a different way of looking at it.

TV’s Frink said:

I think he may have read the first sentence. Maybe two?

I didn’t read any of it, actually. I don’t read. I have news explained to me in short presentations so I don’t get bored.

DominicCobb said:

Hardcore Legend said:

It appears the the Pit scene with Rey may not have been intended to have some big meaning but rather just look cool.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/rian-johnson-gives-his-interpretation-of-reys-enigmatic-1822694943

Um… did you read that article?

Um…yes.

The story served the scene, not the scene served the story. From his telling of it, he wrote the story around being able to include this imagery and doesn’t have a concrete idea of what it means.

It appears the the Pit scene with Rey may not have been intended to have some big meaning but rather just look cool.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/rian-johnson-gives-his-interpretation-of-reys-enigmatic-1822694943

Woah, just realized that if you put EP and IX together, it is ‘EPIX’.

People saying Vader was fan service in RO: wasn’t he originally supposed to have all of Tarkin’s scenes before they gave the go-ahead for the CGI? I think he originally had a much larger role.

Plus, I think he fit just fine in the film. I actually think, unlike the ST, RO gets better with each viewing.

Please be post ANH Luke with Mark voicing the character.

Maybe they are waiting to put Ron Howard’s name on it or for the film to receive a rating?

not ready for it to be over