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#55361
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Interesting Site - T'bones Star Wars Universe
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55361/action/topic#55361
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Alright, I've been working on this for about 6 hours and here is what I have come up with:

-The probe bot intro is much better with the "missing score" as it gives alot of the Imperial feel.
-There must be some sort of missing scene with this thing or something throwing the video off, because I've tried every which way to get the "score" to match up with the scenes and nothing is coming out "just right".

I'll tinker with it some more and see if I can make the entire opening availible to you guys if you want.
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#55297
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Changes in 2004 DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55297/action/topic#55297
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Originally posted by: jimbo

Identical Twins do have identical Deoxyribosenucleic acid. Identical Twins are natures clones. If identical twins can have different voices then so can an artificial clone. Boba can have a different voice without it being inconsistant. Therefore I don't think he should change Bobas voice since I like Bobas old voice.


Are you sure? Because I am pretty sure there are differences in their DNA, although minor.

As for the arguement that two people live diffrent lives, I'm really not seeing much of a difference between Boba's life and Jango's. I know they of course do live diffrent lives, but in a sense they are the same. I believe that was what Lucas was going for.

Listen, I understand that in a sense it is a "plot hole" but as with any sci-fi movie, it creates it's own reality and as long as it doesn't contradict that, then it's A-OK in my book. For us, it seems like a huge problem to change the voice, but in 10 years when some kid sits down to watch the films it will flow just right.
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#55279
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Changes in 2004 DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55279/action/topic#55279
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
but why does he need to change Boba's voice???
people grow up... you dont have the same voice you did at the age of like 10 do you?

and when i say plot holes im talking about how he has to alter the originals to make his prequel trilogy fit... it should be the other way around.. he should be altering his prequel trilogy to fit with the movie which started it all...
not the other way around...



I think you are missing the point. He isn't going to make Boba Fett sound like the kid, he's going to sound like the Clone-origin Jango Fett. If you'll notice, all the Clonetroopers have the exact same voice. They are fully aged, to about the same that Boba Fett would eventually be. An older Boba Fett would have to sound like Jango Fett if their DNA is IDENTICAL. Twins don't have completely identical DNA, thus the changes. Clones do.

I understand what you are saying about the "plot holes". I think Lucas realizes that in order to create a better story arch and make the Prequels better, he has to change some things about the original.
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#55231
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Changes in 2004 DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55231/action/topic#55231
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
there's no point to change Boba's voice...
they guy has grown up... and when you do go through puberty... you dont keep the same voice...

man the PT has really opened up so many plot holes now...
he should have made the PT blend with the OT... not change around the OT to fit with the PT now...
Lucas is making everything so much harder for himself..


What plot holes? I mean, if he changes the voice for Boba Fett then what plot holes would be left. No one has ever implied that the Stormtroopers are clones. As someone said, over the years I am sure some people would have volunteered to join the Imperial army. Also, wouldn't some of the Clones have aged to the point where they could no longer serve. And with out the host or original being alive, wouldn't it make it hard to continue to create the clones?

I always thought the biggest plot hole was the phrase "He is the one to bring balance to the force." However, I saw a promo thing done by Lucas just the other day filmed in 2001. In it, he explains that Vaders ultimate sacrifice in ROTJ is the fullfillment of the prophecy. He's lot in life was to expose the Sith and removed evil from the galaxy. By giving his life and taking that of the Emperor, he has left only 1 Jedi in the galaxy.

I thought for the first time in a long time that something Lucas explained made sense.
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#55149
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Changes in 2004 DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/55149/action/topic#55149
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Aaaannnyyways, I'm glad he's changing the voice for Boba Fett. It would be stupid not to. If the guy is a clone, and we've all heard all the clones use the same voice, wouldn't it have to make sense that his voice match as well?

I'm tired of people whining about Lucas changing Star Wars. It's his movies. They are still great movies. If they came out in say, 1977 with all the changes he has made, they would still be the uber-hits they are. You all (myself included) would still worship them. Lucas is simply trying to tie all 6 of his films together. He's fleshing out scenes and characters. He's making the films the best he possibly can, in his mind. I'm sure he feels he has grown as a film maker, and thinks that as his final sign off to these films...these things are the way they should be.

If the scene of the Sandstorm in ROTJ is restored, I would also like to see footage added of Boba Fett getting out of the pit. If not into the film, then as a special feature. I'm not sure of when the new TV show is supposed to take place based on him, but if it is after ROTJ this would make sense. If it isn't, then nevermind.
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#54792
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Changes in 2004 DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/54792/action/topic#54792
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
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And equally so, it has always annoyed me when Leia is pulled into Jabba's chest you can see the cheap "skin" material used give way as if she is falling onto a paracheut. The puppet Jabba looks very "fake" compared to TPM Jabba. I've always felt that alot of the early scenes in ROTJ have dated the film. I mean, when I watch ESB, I feel that it was filmed 20 years AFTER ROTJ, 3 before.


jimbo you have no clue what looks fake...
the ROTJ Jabba had nothing fake about him...
"paracheut"????? what the hell are you?

a paracheut expert...
lol

man can we still create polls on here...
i wanna see how many people think the SE ANH jabba looked fake or did the OT ROTJ jabba look fake..



Well, seing as I was the one that said it, I will respond. I never said anything about the SE ANH looking good, I said that the Jabba in the Phantom Menace looked more realistic than the puppet in ROTJ. I'm sorry, but a puppet will always be a puppet. You can tell everytime. The only exception is with Yoda in ESB, but even then if you know anything about film you still look for the camera tricks that are used to hide it. I'm not a CGI fanboy, but I can't with a clear soul pass into the next life saying that the Jabba in ROTJ looked real, I mean, the man had no throat, just a mouth and toungue.
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#54676
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Star Wars - The Edits and DVDr releases thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/54676/action/topic#54676
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Originally posted by: MagnoliaFan
I'm only aware of dvds of the edits, which is how they were made.
The subtitle tracks on both were set to default on, so they should be on unless you shut them off.
I was just pointing out that if somebody converted them to put up online, to be sure to add the sub track, as it is separate.
BTW, if your settings are not displaying the subtitles for some reason just press the subtitle button and they should turn on. That is odd though. This is the first I've heard of that problem.


Yeah, I thought I read someone was going to make an XVCD of the edit to be availible. I was alittle worried, like I said because you went to such lengths for digital edits from a digital source that taking a step back wouldn't be wise.

Thanks for the info.
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#54677
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Changes in 2004 DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/54677/action/topic#54677
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Originally posted by: alexborn007
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
We all know why he's thiner: so he could fit on that pre-determined space.



LOL.

The SE Jabba seriously bothers me because he looks so unlike the ROTJ version. I always saw Jabba as this immobile, hideous gangster who moved seldom and with much effort when he did. He's also very nice in ANH. There's obviously some comraderie between Solo and Hutt, but honestly...is this guy a ruthless gangster by just calling people "my boy"? It also does not help that not much effort was put into it by the ILM team if the stories are true (hmmm I wonder why they'd not want to work on a project like this ).

The whole thing is a mess. Touch ups are one thing, but I can imagine it'd be hard enough to create Jabba if the actor hadn't been there. And for what it's worth, the TPM Jabba looked kinda weak. He's a puppet creation, and darn it he should stay one. Watch From Star Wars to Jedi and you'll see those pupetteers had PERSONALITY. They all gave some kind of life to him. The smoking guy, the tail waggler ("Backward and forward, backward and forward..."), etc. A CG Jabba is a bunch of wires.


And equally so, it has always annoyed me when Leia is pulled into Jabba's chest you can see the cheap "skin" material used give way as if she is falling onto a paracheut. The puppet Jabba looks very "fake" compared to TPM Jabba. I've always felt that alot of the early scenes in ROTJ have dated the film. I mean, when I watch ESB, I feel that it was filmed 20 years AFTER ROTJ, 3 before.
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#54599
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Star Wars - The Edits and DVDr releases thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/54599/action/topic#54599
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Magnolia, is your Balance of the Force edition availible in torrent form or still just dvd. I am very interested in seeing you work as it appears you've put alot of care and alot of effort into it.

On another note, I've just recently got a copy of the HD sourced ESB. I won't have time to watch if for a few days, but I'll give you guys some screen caps and impressions later in the week.