Hardcore Legend

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Post: #108864
Topic: according to this report a NEW star wars film is coming......
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108864/action/topic#108864
Time: 25-May-2005 10:08 AM

I think the way copyright laws are changing, Star Wars will never go public domain.

Post: #108839
Topic: FOX issuing takedown notices to Sith downloaders
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108839/action/topic#108839
Time: 25-May-2005 9:41 AM

By downloading it, you are costing someone who paid for the rights money. Whether it's a television station, movie house, video rental place, etc.. you are costing someone money who bought the rights to show it or sell it to you because they thought you and other people like you would buy it. Instead, you bought it and can watch it without ever giving anyone invloved with the project a dime for that viewing. Now, if you've downloaded it and would like to send Lucasfilm or your local theater the $7.50 each time you watch it, go right ahead..it is the right thing to do.

Post: #108661
Topic: Does anyone know what happened to JWFan.net?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108661/action/topic#108661
Time: 24-May-2005 9:50 PM

Nevermind, it works again.

Post: #108655
Topic: Does anyone know what happened to JWFan.net?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108655/action/topic#108655
Time: 24-May-2005 9:27 PM

I was trying to find their musical cue list for Episode II, and noticed that I can't get into the site.

Has this wonderful site been taken down? It was a great resource for us Star Wars fans!

Post: #108650
Topic: Changes to Attack of the Clones
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108650/action/topic#108650
Time: 24-May-2005 9:05 PM

Does anyone know what happened to this footage?

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Regarding a shot from the "Sydney Reel", as shown at the 2002 SMPTE Seminar:

There was one shot inside Jango's apartment (this being just after the Fetts' hasty departure) showing Obi-Wan from the waist up, facing left and moving his hands over a few things on a counter/stand while thoughtfully looking around. His hood covers his head (without obscuring the face) and his cloak is just lightly wet from being outside. The spot where he stands seems to be an area or angle of the set that the audience does not get a good view of during the earlier apartment scene.

There are a some items laying about in disarray. They look to be containers and other random items having a white plastic and/or chrome appearance. Because the apartment was very sparse in the earlier scene, it seemed odd now to see several objects sitting around the room. Again, I can't tell for sure if it was a different location from before or the same general area, but from a different angle and with things sitting out. The script mentions a bedroom area and maybe this was it. Regardless, what was visible was not actually that cluttered or disorderly - just enough to see that perhaps something had been going on. Towards the end of the shot Kenobi has a look of concern and is about to turn and move on. The shot lasted perhaps 10+ seconds and was not digitally embellished.
-Greg Rossiter

I assume that Lucasfilm was there and presented this to the crowd. If not, maybe we should hunt down who was in charge of this Seminar and grab a copy.

A Shot from TBone's:

Post: #108634
Topic: Luke's ROTS Review (plot holes included)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108634/action/topic#108634
Time: 24-May-2005 7:29 PM

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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
I believe he's referring to the distinctiveness of the tremor. The fourth version of the script states this:
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A tremor in The Force. But the only
time I've felt it such as this was in
the presence of my old master.

"Wouldn't that get to be a bit distracting, as much as Obi Wan and Anakin saw each other, that everytime Obi Wan walked into the room, there was a tremor in the Force? "

That's odd. I took my quote from the Fourth Version of the script. Hmm....

Post: #108628
Topic: Luke's ROTS Review (plot holes included)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108628/action/topic#108628
Time: 24-May-2005 7:23 PM

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Originally posted by: Darth Simon
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Originally posted by: Hardcore Legend
VADER: He is here...
TARKIN: Obi-Wan Kenobi! What makes you think so?
VADER: A tremor in the Force. The last time I felt it was in the
presence of my old master.

I understand he is referring to Obi Wan, but the last time he felt a tremor in the Force was around Obi Wan? What is the Emperor, chopped liver?

different tremor...there were 4 movies afterall

haha, well....it must have been like LSD standing in the Jedi Temple. Tremors happening all over the place, all unique. No wonder Anakin seemed annoyed in every scene in which he was in the Temple.

Post: #108601
Topic: Luke's ROTS Review (plot holes included)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108601/action/topic#108601
Time: 24-May-2005 6:17 PM

VADER: He is here...
TARKIN: Obi-Wan Kenobi! What makes you think so?
VADER: A tremor in the Force. The last time I felt it was in the
presence of my old master.

I understand he is referring to Obi Wan, but the last time he felt a tremor in the Force was around Obi Wan? What is the Emperor, chopped liver?

Post: #108593
Topic: Luke's ROTS Review (plot holes included)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108593/action/topic#108593
Time: 24-May-2005 6:00 PM

Why would being in the presence of Obi Wan cause a tremor in the Force? Wouldn't that get to be a bit distracting, as much as Obi Wan and Anakin saw each other, that everytime Obi Wan walked into the room, there was a tremor in the Force?

It could easily be said that the twins, two spawn from a being created by the highest concentration of the Force ever recorded, being near birth would cause a tremor. Thus, the two twins are seperated until Obi Wan and Luke arrive on the Death Star.

It's a stretch, of course, but feeling a 'tremor' seems like a very odd thing to say.

Post: #108578
Topic: FOX issuing takedown notices to Sith downloaders
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108578/action/topic#108578
Time: 24-May-2005 5:09 PM

As much as we share files in this community, we never offer a version of the film that is readily availible. We try not to take money out of the pockets of Lucasfilm. What these people that download Episode III are doing is just that. I hope they throw the book at them.

Post: #108555
Topic: Changes to Attack of the Clones
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108555/action/topic#108555
Time: 24-May-2005 3:34 PM

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Originally posted by: MagnoliaFan
The lost twenty scene takes place during the "If its not in our archives, it doesn't exist" scene in the library.
In the first half of the scene, Jocasta Nu tells the history of Count Dooku.

I would give real money to get ahold of that scene in dvd quality... That and the rest of the homestead scenes.

You and me both.

I've also added an exchange back into the film that was cut, for reasons I'm still not sure. Probably for pacing :eyeroll

Post: #108553
Topic: ROTS: Incoherence ... (attention, a little bit of spoiler inside)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108553/action/topic#108553
Time: 24-May-2005 3:33 PM

It isn't that easy. How do you know the second Death Star was begun after the destruction of the first. Unless it says in the crawl of ROTJ, it could have been started midway through the construction of the first.

Post: #108464
Topic: Luke's ROTS Review (plot holes included)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108464/action/topic#108464
Time: 24-May-2005 12:27 PM

Well, Luke is never in contact with Vader except moments before it is revealed to him. Also, the line "I felt a tremor in the Force, one I haven't felt since I was last in the presence of my old Master" has taken on a different meaning for me. Not that Obi Wan is the tremor, but the twins in the same place again being the tremor.

Post: #108431
Topic: ROTS: Incoherence ... (attention, a little bit of spoiler inside)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108431/action/topic#108431
Time: 24-May-2005 11:18 AM

I'm not joking. Luke's connection is with his father. Thus he can't sense that Leia is his sister.

Post: #108424
Topic: ROTS: Incoherence ... (attention, a little bit of spoiler inside)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108424/action/topic#108424
Time: 24-May-2005 11:06 AM

I don't think Obi Wan ever OWNED a droid, I think the droids he has are Republic Military Astromech droids, meaning they are assigned to his fighter. Individuals, such as Padme or even the Skywalkers would OWN a droid. Obi Wan simply uses the ones that come with his ship.

He tells Luke that Vader helped the Emperor hunt down and kill all the Jedi. Well, he sorta did. As far as Obi Wan knows, Anakin did help the Emperor as he set the message in the Temple to tell all the Jedi to return. And Anakin would know where all the Jedi were, too.

How do you know when the construction of the second Death Star began? I've never seen it.

And, the force is strong with the Skywalker's, so Leia could have feasible sensed her mother and her feelings while in the womb.

Post: #108272
Topic: Changes to Attack of the Clones
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108272/action/topic#108272
Time: 24-May-2005 6:53 AM

That's what it says in the film now, but for some reason I remember him sayin "I love democracy, really I do". Ah well, who knows.

Anyways, I might as well us this thread as a collection thread for my Attack of the Clones Extended Edition DVD. What I was hoping to get from all of you is a list of removed lines of dialogue and film that is actually availible in DVD quality that can be added back into the film.

Obviously, the deleted scenes on the DVD can be reinserted. Anyone know of any other material that exists?

Post: #108263
Topic: Changes to Attack of the Clones
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108263/action/topic#108263
Time: 24-May-2005 6:14 AM

I noticed that this board wasn't around when AOTC was released, and I did a search to see if I could find this answer:

In the scene when Palp gains more power from the Senate, he says "I love democracy..." He then finishes it with something I don't remember him saying. I always remembered him saying "I love democracy, really I do".

Am I nuts, or did this really originally happen?

Post: #108197
Topic: A modest proposal: Should Lucas make more OT changes?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108197/action/topic#108197
Time: 24-May-2005 3:02 AM

If he were to ever add scenes the Star Wars (again of course), I would think a scene in which Vader returns to the Emperor as Dooku does. While we don't need an explanation, it always seemed odd that single manned TIE Fighters weren't supposed to make it out that far into space, but Vader somehow made it back to a Imperial stronghold after spinning out of control.

Post: #108175
Topic: Help me, Tim Lehrbach, you're my only hope!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108175/action/topic#108175
Time: 24-May-2005 12:57 AM

Chainsaw, did you ever finish those other logos? I'm thinking of getting some custom posters made, and want to use the Struzan artwork and these logos, if you don't mind.

Post: #108170
Topic: A modest proposal: Should Lucas make more OT changes?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108170/action/topic#108170
Time: 24-May-2005 12:34 AM

I think that as long as the ORIGINALS eventually are released, CGI the thing to hell if he wants. The fact that there are about 7 TIE Fighters defending the Death Star has always kinda bugged me. Or that the Star Destroyers are chasing the Rebel Runner without any TIE defenses. Or that the data readouts at the Rebel Base for the Death Star plans look like Atari games. While I don't want Obi Wan and Vader bouncing off the walls, I think a few kicks or faster blade swings using CGI and face placements would look great, as a new edition. Not as the defenitive edition, but a new edition.

Alot of the CGI used for the SEs looks EXTREMELY dated now. Why not just replace all the laser blasts and saber blades with new CGI to match the excellent looking ones in the PT? Hell, as long as it was a CARBON COPY, I'd like to see a CGI Yoda, just for fun, not because I think it would look better.

I dunno, it'd be fun to see him tinker with it, but not at the expense of losing the ORIGINALS even further.

Post: #108150
Topic: Episode 3: Fan Editing Ideas Discussion
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108150/action/topic#108150
Time: 23-May-2005 11:26 PM

Originally posted by: Faid

Originally posted by: Hardcore Legend

Originally posted by: MagnoliaFan

"will Dooku be revealed as a Sith Lord or is he still just a fallen Jedi who got suckered?"

Dooku was a Sith Lord, Darth Tyrannus.

Not necessarily...
In fact, late in the film, Obi-Wan may even mention that Dooku was right all along...

But I would assume that Obi-Wan would still believe that Dooku was fooled, much like Anakin. I mean, we don't want to comprimise Obi Wan's moral standing here.

You're edit is your own, but sitting here re-reading the script, alot of the dialogue between Obi Wan and Anakin is great at the beginning of the film. I would cut down the space between "Hold on, you're not helping anything" and then "You're right, bad idea". There is a weird space between the responses that kills the comedic timing. However, one line that is CLASSIC: Wait a minute, how'd this happen! We're smarter than this.

Actually I disagree. Most of the banter in the space battle is too much. I think a good idea would be to cut Anakin blasting Obi-Wan's ship, and instead cutting to the part where he swoops in and removes them with his wing, you know a "great pilot". There's some bad acting in that scene, mostly from Christensen.

Without the banter, Obi Wan and Anakin's relationship is more like QuiGon and Obi Wan and not a true friendship. Without the two actually liking each other, as shown in those scenes, then the betrayal is meaningless.

In fact, there is more of it that comes in before Anakin says 'lock on Artoo' that I wish was included. Not to mention the scenes in the hanger that were cut that would have been nice to have as well.

Post: #108091
Topic: Episode 3: Fan Editing Ideas Discussion
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108091/action/topic#108091
Time: 23-May-2005 9:15 PM

Originally posted by: MagnoliaFan
I think if either Shaak Ti scene goes on the dvd, it will be the OLD one, with Grievous killing her.
I've seen stills of him impaling her (though it was written to be a decapitation) with completed effects and Matt Wood has said that he's going in to record new Grievous dialogue for the dvd.
If they were to use the Anakin killing Shaak Ti scene, I would bet it would just be reincorporated into the film. It's too short and quick to be a deleted scene.

I'd love a link to that image, as I write for a DVD website and we have an ongoing feature that shows the script that is missing when it has been confirmed to have been shot. Thus, that image would confirm it.

Post: #108086
Topic: Episode 3: Fan Editing Ideas Discussion
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108086/action/topic#108086
Time: 23-May-2005 9:00 PM

That's because they are in the script:
basically it goes something like this:
Padme: Help me Obi Wan
OW: Be Strong Padme, save you energy
Padme: I can't
OW: You must live, the twins, they need you
Padme: I'm too weak, There is still good in him, I know it, there is still....

Post: #108072
Topic: Episode 3: Fan Editing Ideas Discussion
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108072/action/topic#108072
Time: 23-May-2005 8:27 PM

Yes, remember when Anakin asks if Obi Wan had been there? The scene in which he actually went there was cut. Also, in the scene following that with Anakin, he originally sat in the same place Obi - Wan had and says "I sense something....fimiliar" which I thought was cool. During Jar Jar's scene, Palpatine questions Obi Wan's abilities on the mission in which he had wanted Anakin to go one and says that he has heard idle Senate gossip that Obi Wan has been involved in an affair with a young female senator. Her identity is unknown, but that the rumor is being spread. Later on, in the scene in which the Senators present the petition to the Chancellor, Palpatine says that Padme is hiding something, and that he doesn't think she can be trusted. Anakin continues to defend her, but the seed of doubt is continuely placed. Thus, when Anakin acts paranoid it rings true, and that is why he is tired of hiring about Obi Wan and feels betrayed.

Also, about a quarter of the ObiWan/Anakin fight was cut, Anakin using force powers similiar to ESB and some solid dialogue.

Post: #108065
Topic: Episode 3: Fan Editing Ideas Discussion
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/108065/action/topic#108065
Time: 23-May-2005 8:01 PM

Someone asked if anyone was doing an edits. I plan on doing an EXTENDED Edit when the deleted scenes are released. Hopfully a majority of the film that was cut is included, and not just the 5 or 6 scenes that was said by Rick. If you read the script, alot was removed, alot of good subplots were removed (ObiWan accused of affair with Padme, the Rebel Alliance, the Wookies). So, I will try to bridge all of the deleted scenes back into the film for an extended version. And I will also do an edited version of the film that does not change the story, per se, but edits it alittle cleaner taking out awkward pacing and bad dialogue, similar to what I'm doing currently with TPM. Also, in that edit, other sound cues will be used in scenes that lack scores (ie Jabba's sail barge fight cue used on the bridge of GG ship).

So, that's what I'll do come November.