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#111767
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Episode 3: Fan Editing Ideas Discussion
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Originally posted by: rennervision
Second, as others have mentioned, Anakin's change from remorse over Mace Windu's death to proclaiming Palpatine as master is too abrupt and unbelievable. I would suggest cutting the scene right after Anakin is crying saying, "What have I done?" I would also eliminate the scene where he slaughters the younglings because it simply doesn't work. (Look, killing children is something I might do three days after joining the dark side - two days at the earliest. But certainly not within the first five minutes!)


While it is quick, I think it is explained well enough. Palpatine tells him that he will only be strong enough in the Dark Side if he goes to the temple and wipes out everyone, showing no mercy. Anakin needs to become strong with the Dark Side, and quickly, if he is to save Padme who is pretty far along with the Twinkies.
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#111764
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Episode 3: Fan Editing Ideas Discussion
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Originally posted by: spaint
I wanted to return to the idea of Magnoliafan making the whole Vader thing a surprise (though I'm not sure how, given how Episode III is all about Obi-Wan's apprentice losing it). I was thinking that one way to retain the Vader awakes-Frankenstein thing would be to have it play during Ben's "more machine now than man" speech in RotJ, when he finally reveals the truth to Luke.

I also wanted to add that I'm very excited by all of Magnoliafan's releases, although I'm only halfway through watching Balance right now.

Steve


Just end Anakin's character with his hand pulling him up the gravel and the ship flying over. Remove all references to 'Lord Vader' made by Palpatine, and just dub his 'Skywalker' over all of it. Thus, you think Anakin is dead and Vader just appears. It also adds intrigue to Obi-Wan's character, because he says that Vader killed his father, when actually he did.
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#111759
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"Hoooow is that possible..."
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
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Originally posted by: Hardcore Legend


Equate it to someone who is forced to have the children from a rape.


Uh, these were the children from the man she loved and married. Somebody in whom her last words confirmed she believed there was still good. That's about as far from a rape victim as you can get.


The man she loved and married was dead and gone and had betrayed her. For that matter, he tried to kill her. She was so devastated by the changes in him, his complete 180, his hatred for everything she held above all else, that she no longer had the will to live. When Anakin turned on her, something in her died, much like when a rape victim is raped, something in them dies. Rape victims are able to go on, obviously and live productive lives, but the rape changes them. Now, picture a constant reminder of the horrible thing that has happened to them (rape/Anakin's betrayal). I just think she couldn't deal with that and 'gave up'. In the deleted dialogue from the film, Obi Wan tells her not to give up, the children need her. She replies she can't.
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#111757
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FOX issuing takedown notices to Sith downloaders
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Originally posted by: Zebonka
Man this is a hoot. Revenge of the Sith is doing record business and they're complaining about piracy? If a film is big enough, then the piracy doesn't hurt it because it makes so much money. If a film (or song or whatever) is small time, then it's not big time enough to be bootlegged widely, and the free publicity is worth it. Seriously. I don't see the problem. I've seen the movie twice, am going to see it a 3rd time, and am buying a copy in November. I haven't downloaded it, but certainly will not pick on anyone who does as long as they've paid good money to see it and will buy a legal copy at a later time.


There are a couple of flaws here. Big film or small film, in this day and age they can be bootlegged easily using distro channels. ROTS box-office take has no bearing on whether they should complain or not. When the 'legs' on this film die off, you can easily blame that on the bootlegs as people going to their bootlegs for the 2nd or third viewings rather than going back to see it again.

You are trying to rationalize a crime because they did something else. When they buy the DVD, they are paying to watch that DVD. When they buy a movie ticket, there is a time printed on it. That's the time they paid to see it. It doesn't give the the right to watch it whenever they want, as many times as they want.

I've been over this on numerous boards, but basically it all boils down to stealing. Are we all guilty of it? Sure. Is there any rationale way to explain it off? No. You are in possession of stolen, illegal goods and if the MPAA wants to stop this sort of thing, put the fear of God in a couple high school or teenage kids running these distros and that should do the trick. Federal prison in Indiana is no picnic.

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#111673
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Fix the lightsabers (Poster participation)
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Ok, so here is the deal. I rewatched ROTS again tonight and we are all basically off. The blue is nowhere near dark enough in any of our pictures. The core should be solid white, never changing. The aurora around it goes from light blue to dark blue at the outer most edge. When the saber is moved, the blue is dialed down and the white is dialed up. Atleast, if you are trying to get it to match the awesome PT sabers. If you are wanting to go for the OT look, then I guess most of them are right.

I personally like the PT sabers the best, but to each their own. That's why I'm rotoscoping them to be that way, so there is consistency. Unfortunately, when I went from dvd footage to photoshop and then back, the image quality was shot all th hell, so now I have to figure out a new way to rotoscope 84 friggin frames. Awesome!
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#111502
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
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Originally posted by: Darth Editous
The title cards are made from scratch. It's simple to do using a photoshop image and a correctly timed fades in and out.


How has the Long Time Ago bit changed? That is to say, what changed from the OT to the SE/DVD that needs it to be recreated?

DE


The letters are much thinner now, to match the PT. If you go to Mike's website, he shows what alot of us noticed, that the font isn't exactly the way it used to be.

As for the title cards, I had the m2v made up on my other HDD, but it's a simple enough thing, I could do it up again.
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#111486
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The Liam Neeson Mystery (spoilers within but questions answered)
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Thanks for the links to 'The Invisible Hand' stuff, as that confirms more deleted footage and not just dropped script points.

Here is my question: No where in the script does Vader (in suit) use a lightsaber or attack anyone with it, but yet everywhere I go, every promo picture I see, he's got his red saber out and is pointing at something or swinging at something. What gives?
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#111286
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan

Edit: Screw what I said earlier. If you simply edit this between when Episode IV is completely on screen, but before any of A NEW HOPE appears on screen, then it's a great looking edit. Don't know how this option escaped me earlier but it did. I just tried it and it looks superior.

To the point I'm redoing my disc before circulating it.


Hey, would you be interested in the old school Lucasfilm and A Long Time Ago title cards as M2Vs?
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#111245
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all the new people
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Alot of people don't like to talk in forums like this because they are worried they might say something that most will jump on. I mean, if they are only a casual fan and don't know the name of every character in the Cantina, but enjoy the films as much as anyone else. They might feel intimidated about posting. That's why I don't post at TfN.
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#111079
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
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Originally posted by: Darth Editous
Yes. But here is my problem. I've got the whole thing rotoscopped in Photoshoppe. Now I just need to figure out how to change the PSD to a FLM or filmstripe file (back to what it was) or how to convert it, ya dig?


I can tell you how to make it into an AVI, which you can probably do more with than a PSD:

Save each frame out of Photoshop as a Targa in a numbered sequence, starting at 000.tga. Then use VirtualDub - drag the 000.tga image on to a VirtualDub window and it will load the whole sequence. You can then save that out as an AVI.

VirtualDub was an invaluable tool to me while I made my edit.

DE


I may have to do that if I can't find a way to just convert the PSD file to a FLM stripe file. I use Adobe Premiere and it allows you to save the sequence as a filmstrip. I then, foolishly, took the filmstrip and converted it into a PSD file. I think this may be where my problem is.
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#111072
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
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Originally posted by: Hurin
Who says I didn't photoshop (rotoscope) the whole scene?

Me. Considering it's the same frame as DE's. But why don't you just tell us. . . Did you rotoscope the whole scene?!?


Yes. But here is my problem. I've got the whole thing rotoscopped in Photoshoppe. Now I just need to figure out how to change the PSD to a FLM or filmstripe file (back to what it was) or how to convert it, ya dig?
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#111067
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
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Originally posted by: Hurin

I only posted because your first attempt looked pretty bad (sorry) and I considered it to be in pretty poor taste to post your "fixed" version here in DE's thread when DE's in fact looks better (and entails a lot more than Photoshopping one frame).


Who says I didn't photoshop (rotoscope) the whole scene?

And no, it isn't from whatever that was you said it was. I took the core from hi-res photos from ROTS and then added the glow to it.

In no way was I attempting to say that DE's version was bad. He said that he didn't go to the trouble of working on it more than a quick fix and that it still didn't match another scene.

Give me a break with the dishonest stuff. The original image uploaded was the wrong image, and more than likely your browser hadn't refreshed the image since I fixed it.
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#111053
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
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Originally posted by: Hurin
Originally posted by: Hardcore Legend
Originally posted by: Hurin
Uh, "fixed" is a subjective term in this case. The "fixed" one looks pretty darn fake to me. I like DE's version.

H



Really? What about it looks fake?


Well, it would help us to have a meaningful discussion if you didn't keep changing it!


No need to get all upset.