Some people will say this was just a filler episode but I loved it. Very funny and good use of the droids.
Wish Saturday’s episode was going to be an hour. This Kenobi episode is my most anticipated, even more than Vader.
In ROTJ, Leia is captured by the ewoks while wearing her assault garb.
When Han and Luke arrive to be eaten, she is wearing a medieval gown.
Did the Ewoks happen to have one that fit her? Do you think she had just accepted that this was her life now? Her lover and that other guy she kissed are still in the woods being chased by the Empire on their way to destroy a planet killing weapon and she has gone through a wardrobe change. Do you think she intended to take a native lover and live as one of them until Han/Luke showed up?
The fact that this forum was seemingly made to get the Out
re released on a decent format reaffirms for me that there will only ever be 3, true star wars films. The rest are ‘cover’ versions.that all the other films never happened.
If only this was true. I think any classic film(s) should be protected. I’d hate to see another Godfather for example. I’m dreading Blade Runner 2!
“Protected” from sequels? Ehhhh…I will argue that films should be preserved, regardless of quality. Ex., the prequels’ original cuts, hell I’d even defend shit like the Super Mario Bros Movie (which I’m still waiting for a region-free bluray of).
However, sequels/remakes should be fair game. It’s up to the filmmakers whether it’s good or not, if it is, well no complaints here. If it’s bad…just let it fade out of existence like most shit films. For instance, the Ghostbusters reboot. If all that hate boner-ism wasn’t built up around it, it would’ve came and gone, the only impression left being Ecto Cooler and an awful Rotten Tomatoes score. Oh wait, that’s already happening. So much for all that time, energy, and vitriol all it’s detractors poured into it.
So remaking Psycho, shot for shot is okay? Copies of masterpiece paintings are called fakes! Is film not art?
Is remaking The Maltese Falcon okay? 😉
Well, it is the stuff dreams are made of.
The truth is probably that there is no ‘true’ color because the rotoscoping in the OT was not very good (especially ANH). Whatever color it is ‘supposed to be’ is probably whatever it was in the PT or TFA.
This is one of the things that has always bugged me about all the updates of the OT over the years. If you are going to go to all the effort of adding to/changing the films, erase the old rotoscoping and fix it proper!
He became a delicious Mon Calamari lunch for Grand Moff Tarkin.
Hence why Leia could smell him when she was brought on board.
Hardcore Legend said:
Are you lumping ROTJ int the PT? Because otherwise, your view of the character does not fit.ROTJ is different because it’s Luke’s story, not Anakin’s.
Even if Vader is a monster, we can feel happy for Luke. If he thinks there is a little good left in his father and he can bring it out, then OK Luke we’re rooting for you. But we’re not happy for Anakin at the end of the movie–we’re happy for Luke.
But Vader is clearly the lapdog of others from the beginning. He answers to Tarkin, he answers to Palpatine.
I understand what you are saying, as far as Anakin’s sins weighing on him and causing him to commit more to ‘fix’ it, as in Macbeth. But that doesn’t fit Vader’s character because at no point in the OT is he really in charge of anything. He goes where he is told and the one time he ventures out on his own (chasing the Falcon), he scurries out of the asteroid field to answer the Emperor’s call.
Even Obi-Wan’s reminiscing of Anakin to Luke is made to be sympathetic.
Anakin’s story shouldn’t have been a soap opera. It should have been more like Macbeth. He becomes corrupted by power. Instead you can tell Lucas has a perverse understanding of the world, or came to develop one, since he made Anakin’s perceived feebleness his weakness, whereas he should have been undone by his own strength.
The entire prequel trilogy is whiny and childish because it represents a whiny and childish view of the world: that even bad people are good, and there are plenty of excuses that justify or explain their actions. And then comes the Saga, where all you have to do is save your son’s life and you’re suddenly forgiven for all of your sins.
The prequels are an abomination because they are nothing more than a 3-movie long excuse for why a really evil person wasn’t so bad after all.
Are you lumping ROTJ int the PT? Because otherwise, your view of the character does not fit.
I believe the original script had Anakin suspecting a Padme and Obi affair more explicitly. There’s still hints of it in the final film.
I think you’re right. I feel like it would have made Anakin choking his pregnant wife and trying to kill his best friend make much more sense than standing for ‘security in the new empire’.
His worst decision was not completely breaking Anakin Skywalker.
He should have killed Padme earlier in the third film. He should have kept the children a secret from Anakin. He should have had Padme turn to Obi Wan for help, thus leading Anakin to suspect Padme and Obi Wan were having an affair. Anakin should have been the one following Obi Wan, leading to the duel happening earlier. Anakin in his rage still believes he kills Padme, Obi Wan still cuts Anakin to pieces. Emperor still builds Vader.
Anakin becomes Vader, Obi Wan is off caring for Padme/hiding the twins. She still dies in child birth from the injuries (not broken heart) while Darth Vader returns to Coruscant broken and filed with rage. Under the Emperor’s direction, he begins to wipe out the Jedi.
He had a lot of the right pieces for the PT, he just flubbed the order to put them in. He boxed himself in by wanting the story to be about Anakin, not Vader.
For Disney, the idea of ‘everything matters’ outweighs restoring the OT to it’s original release cut. Disney wants everything to ‘fit’ both stylistically and in effects. I would wager they would be more interested in updating the SE SFX to fit in with Rogue One than from removing the SE changes. In fact, I bet they have a higher priority on making changes to the PT than working on a OUT. The SE is the canon they operate around now.
What’s your basis for this line of thinking?
Because Disney has updated their own properties in the past and made that the official version.
The heavy focus right now on the story period leading up to ANH, with everything in the universe controlled by the ‘story group’ makes me believe that it is more about blending everything together rather than restoring the film to its original cut.
I could be wrong. I hope I’m wrong in the sense that they release an archival version of the OT to show the film as it was in 1977. But I just feel like blending their universe (which on TV and film is becoming more interconnected every year) is more of a priority.
For Disney, the idea of ‘everything matters’ outweighs restoring the OT to it’s original release cut. Disney wants everything to ‘fit’ both stylistically and in effects. I would wager they would be more interested in updating the SE SFX to fit in with Rogue One than from removing the SE changes. In fact, I bet they have a higher priority on making changes to the PT than working on a OUT. The SE is the canon they operate around now.
The only thing that makes the OUT seem likely is the preservation Disney is doing on the original footage. Archiving the OT gives them the opportunity, but I doubt they will spend any extra money or effort on putting the original cut back together.
Maybe they would spend the money to redo the SE’s cgi, but it would be expensive and the '97 shots look “good enough” so I don’t think they’d bother.
They’re not going to redo the cgi every twenty years so it matches the quality of the newest Star Wars movies. If anything there seems to be a conscious effort in TFA and RO to replicate via cgi the look of the model work from the OT.
That is correct, the CGI used in RO was made to look like SW’77. That’s the point I’m making, the SE does not look like that. The CGI ships in the SE look much more cartoonish and not in line with the practical effects or RO CGI.
It think if they are going to go to all of the effort of restoring and archiving all of this material, it is to use it to bring everything in-line with each other or to use in new projects (like Rogue One).
For Disney, the idea of ‘everything matters’ outweighs restoring the OT to it’s original release cut. Disney wants everything to ‘fit’ both stylistically and in effects. I would wager they would be more interested in updating the SE SFX to fit in with Rogue One than from removing the SE changes. In fact, I bet they have a higher priority on making changes to the PT than working on a OUT. The SE is the canon they operate around now.
The only thing that makes the OUT seem likely is the preservation Disney is doing on the original footage. Archiving the OT gives them the opportunity, but I doubt they will spend any extra money or effort on putting the original cut back together.
Have…have you never spent any time in sand? It’s rough and coarse and it gets everywhere.
#truth
Before getting in pod
After getting out of pod
On that note, how did R2 and 3PO get so dirty simply stepping out of the escape pod and walking 500 feet?
I actually kinda liked the lightsaber being red for that fight better than when it was blue. But that’s not what makes the edit more compelling. All the edits to the dialogue make that scene work SOOOO much better. It also looks like they edited out some of the most ridiculous lightsaber moves (don’t get me wrong, pretty much NONE of what they’re doing looks like actual sword fighting) which also helps it look more convincing as a fight.
The edit is pretty rough. Makes the pacing too fast.
Rebels is cool or whatever, but after they directly tie into the events of Rogue One (if they ever do) they should do a Season (or five seasons) of stories set after the events of Return of the Jedi, before The Force Awakens.
I would love to see an expensive CGI show/TV movie event that involves Luke Skywalker with Mark doing the VO. It seems weird to me they haven’t used his talents thus far.
Idk why people are worried about Luke dying in future movies. If they kill Luke in TLJ (or later), they’ll surely Force Ghost him and he’ll still be there, just bluer and less opaque.
I’m sure for some it would be nice to see Luke Skywalker: Jedi Knight.
For me, the Star Wars universe has become so much more than Luke Skywalker, Han Solo and Darth Vader so as long as the story is good I’m ok with whatever they decide. I think.
My Empire Blu-Ray disc has Chewie on it.
Keep out of reach of pets.
Perhaps if you wanted to start your film with Rey meeting Luke, you could have not put it at the end of your last film.
But that’s none of my business.
The Force fell asleep?
It was dormant.
The Force Awakened in a girl left on a desert planet.
I’m not saying what happened to it, I’m asking what happened to it.
It is laying on the robe as Vader stomps on it.
After that point, following the Falcon’s escape, unknown.
Actually, no one knows what goes on behind those closed blast doors. Or why Vader initially walks the other way, like he is asking the stormtroopers to join him into battle against a farmboy, a prince, smuggler, and a wookie.
“Disappeared…it has.”
Ugh, stupid prequels.
Wait, are you saying it isn’t laying on the robe or what happens to it after the Falcon escapes?
Please, please, won’t somebody please think of the children?!
Which children? Young Jyn?
Do you think that blue milk just sat there, spoiled and made the abandoned home smell vial for decades? Or do you think The zombie troopers Lars Homesteaded that B?
If they were wise, they would find a way to branch off of the Saga in a manner that they can do a Trilogy or series of films instead of just one-offs. That way they can put the Saga on ice for a stretch but get people to be interested in following the series.
A film series set post ROTJ (non- Skywalker) of the Galaxy in chaos would be nice.
Well, that makes it official. Do Han and Leia get married in Bloodlines? Ben would be the only heir to the Organa royal family (if Leia is still recognized) so I would have thought unless they were married, he would have taken his mother’s (or grandfather’s) family name.
Kids almost always take the dad’s last name if the parents aren’t married.
In royal families though?