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Imply that Palpatine possessed Kylo Ren during the opening of TROS by dubbing over in his voice and removing Palpatine from the rest of the film.

I had not been in this thread for quite a while, and I am sorry to hear about any health issues and would like to wish you the best.

Miche said:

Never watched this Disney stink of a show, hope your vision for the episodes improves it. Would like a link. 😃

How do you know it stinks?

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Oh, I wasn’t trying to be self-deprecating with my “diet” comment! On the contrary, I’m pleased to have projects I’ve overseen go on to greater things! (Even if I prefer the diet version personally.)

And I think what’ll be best for V2 of Ascendant for Palpatine is what we’ve already done, just working out a few of the kinks of the plot mechanics without radically altering them. But I reiterate, I would genuinely like to see these ideas be developed in the main TROS ideas thread and coalesce into something.

Okay so let me make sure I understand the practical things that would need to be changed in order to realize this idea.

Opening scene on Exegol, cut Palpatine’s specific request. Maybe just go from “It will be yours if you do as I ask.” To “End the Jedi, and become what your grandfather could not… but beware, she is not who you think she is (meaning the Jedi).” I think the opening scene would need to mention Rey in specific or else have a good way to end on a compelling note that doesn’t feel abrupt. (Not sure “…if you do as I ask… you will be the new emperor” and then Kylo lowering his saber would cut it.)

I do like this idea and feel it’d have been much preferable to the theatrical, but I think to realistically get at it we’d have to essentially let the theatrical alone. In other words I don’t think it’d work to imply Kylo has mysterious orders from Palpatine.

If the key ingredient of the idea is Palpatine knowingly trying to drain the dyad, I don’t think the footage is there to establish what’s happening, as he holds his hands up in surprise to exposit what’s happening.

Again, I do like this idea and wish it could be fully realized without seams. But by this point my TFA edit is a diet version of Nev’s Starlight, and my TLJ edit is a diet version of poppasketti’s Rekindled, so I wonder what this edit will end up a diet version of??

Lol, a recon mission! I hope you enjoy your time there.

sherlockpotter said:

https://streamable.com/35xfqw

There we go, I’ve figured out the Captain Hux conundrum.

Wouldn’t have thought it possible to improve upon, but this makes it truly seamless.

Man, I’d try to make sure that was the first thing I learned.

I guess since Qui-Gon was the first Jedi to discover the ability (and I don’t even know if that’s canon, I’m just taking ROTS at face value) it wouldn’t be in the books Rey stole.

Perhaps at the scripting stage (or before), but I imagine trying to fundamentally alter things to that degree would be outside this project’s scope. However, I’d welcome anyone to use the ProRes output I’ll make available to pursue more radical edits.

I think Palpatine’s motives are made a little more intuitive than in the theatrical (especially for V2), and Palpatine has a history of saying things to hero characters that make them less likely to do what he wants. I think there’s a difference between necromancy and selflessly (?) giving your own life-energy to heal the body-still-warm recently departed. If anything, it was rude of Rey not to return the favor. Maybe she could have tried if he hadn’t vanished. Good thing she didn’t vanish, though, I guess. I think I remember hearing (or saying) it’d be funny to have Rey vanish juuust as Ben has almost finished hobbling over to her.

“L3” still sounds like a fish platter from the Long John Silver’s/A&W combo place they used to have near me.

I wish I could have recorded my reactions throughout my first viewing in the theater with my brother. I was like, “Oh, I guess he wasn’t good enough. He’s gotta work his way outta Purgatory.”

That and Palptine gloating about his “Forty-seven thousand star destroyers.” “You’ll never defeat that many star destroyers!”

Kijimi is destroyed. “For God’s sake!”

Finn’s adorable little whimper of “Rey” as he gives up on pursuing her during the DSII duel. Not to mention, “They got Chewie! They— they got ‘im!”

Or an automated voice over the Falcon’s PA system saying, “Atmosphere detected, though not breatheable. Advise wearing filter masks but not a whole space suit or anything.”

Those may very well have been the filmmakers’ reasons for not including a ghost of Ben.

However, showing his ghost is the natural capstone on his redemption story. Without it, it leaves the audience to say, “Oh, well. I guess he’s in Jedi hell.”

Also, I feel like the script already seems to address this (as though they originally meant to have his ghost at the end) by having Palpatine refer to Ben as “the last Skywalker,” as KumoNin points out.

Wow, yeah. I think you did it. The only way to make that idea worse is to specify which group to dub over which.

I really agree. I can hear the difference but… feel both are perfect!

Best of luck.

Why preserve the matte lines and optical compositing but add a new Emperor?

It would seem less arbitrary to add Adywan’s emperor to OTD’s mostly-OOT ESB.

Episode IX
THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

Supreme Leader Kylo Ren has traveled to Mustafar in search of a hidden power that would allow him to destroy any threat to his rule over the First Order.

Guarded by the fearsome creature THE WEBBISH BOG, the elusive Sith Wayfinder would lead the way to their homeworld.

With the Webbish Bog’s warning about Kylo Ren discovering his true self on the path ahead, he has begun to slaughter the Wayfinder’s ancient guardians…

I thought the last one sounded perfect, and I think this one does too. Will be happy to use whatever you end up happy with.

You talked me into it!

I really think that “Captain Hux” sounds great. We wouldn’t have thought anything of it in the theater.

Having Hux identified by name is a subtle little thing where the movie makes sure we know his name. It’s a “I’m Qui-Gon Jinn” or “Sit down, Legolas” thing.

It is the only time the film mentions his name. That’s a pretty minor thing, though.

^ No news since last check-in about the crackly saber.

Wow, that sounds great to my ears at any rate. If you can’t or don’t want to bake it into full 5.1, just send me the audio of the two words together and I can bake it in.