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#105603
Topic
original trilogy - why do you care so much?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/105603/action/topic#105603
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Well that's the main reason anyway.

I actually was raised on a pan-n-scan VHS copy of the '97 Special Edition trilogy.

But you may ask, "well then why the hell do you want the original versions if you weren't even raised on them??"

And I say, because they are better! The special editions SUCK!
It seems like I'm the opposite of most. Instead of growing up with originals but preferring the SEs, I grew up with the SEs and prefer the originals!
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#105355
Topic
Christian Wisdom of the Jedi Masters
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/105355/action/topic#105355
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Hey, I just have to share this little nugget of joy I found at the bookstore today.

I was looking under Religion, to find more Christian non-fiction and the worlds "Jedi" jumped out at me from the spine of a book.
I picked it up and it was a book that is using the Star Wars saga (trilogy, more accuratley) as an analogy or myth about the Christian Gospel.

Amazon Link

Biblically literate Star Wars fans have long recognized similarities between Jedi teachings and biblical wisdom. Staub, a broadcaster and director of the Center for Faith and Culture in Seattle, artfully lays out many similarities for Christians who want to claim Jedi wisdom as their own. After seeing a Star Wars prequel, Staub realized that a young man he was mentoring wanted "to be a 'Jedi Christian,' " but Staub's generation had not produced a Yoda. To correct that, Staub takes on the role of a modern-day Yoda (the wise sage) by speaking directly to readers as aspiring Jedi Christians and doling out his understanding of Christian theology. Thankfully, Staub resists the urge to fit all-things-Jedi into a Christian framework, but instead picks and chooses from Jedi (as well as Buddhist, Jewish, Taoist and mystical) teachings, comparing what he finds with biblical wisdom. Because the book is so biblically oriented, it seems to be reaching out to young evangelical Christians, asking them to consider a more progressive tradition of Christian faith—one that embraces liberal Christian philosophers, theologians and mystics, and social and environmental activism. Using Jedi culture as a draw, Staub builds a number of bridges with this book that will keep coffeehouse theological discussions going at least as long as Star Wars films are popular. (Apr.) (Publishers Weekly, February 28, 2005)

I can't wait to start reading it, and thought I should let you guys know!
If you've never really heard the message or want to know more but don't want to dive deep into any religious stuff, maybe this would be a good read!
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#104543
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Idea -- Original Theatrical Prequels
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/104543/action/topic#104543
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Would anyone be interested in recreating the AOTC Imax edit?

That'd be the perfect edit to AOTC, if you ask me. Episode II is the longest Star Wars film and the hardest to sit through without longing to press pause and go see what's going on elsewhere.
This would get AOTC back to a decent running time of about 2 hours. And what it cuts out really wouldn't be missed anyway, IMHO.

Just another idea. I still am trying to learn how to edit video myself, so we'll see how that goes. But this would be a great project to undertake!
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#104530
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Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/104530/action/topic#104530
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And lastly, what I hope to be done for ROTJ...

Plug original logos back in.

Plug the original Jabba dance number back in, starting with the power droid getting welted in the foot and ending when the song is over.

Have Han tell Lando "Trust me" instead of "It's allright, I can see a lot better."

Try to fix the bad sabers. But if that isn't possible, plug '97 SE footage in for them when they go bad.

Put '97 SE footage in for the unmasking. I'm just so used to seeing him with eyebrows, I want to change it back!

This is tricky, but here's what my ideal ending for ROTJ would be. Camera pans up from Vader's funeral pyre, and the '97 SE montage of planets goes by. AKA, no Naboo. Sorry, but NO gungans in the OT, thankyouverymuch. Then the rest is DVD footage up until the ghosts. Obviously, we'll have to put Shaw back in there.

Well that's what I hope to do, although it's looking discouraging....
If anyone thinks they can do a better job at what I'm trying to do, feel free! Mine will never be more than an ameature attempt and will never look worthy of replacing a different Star Wars DVD.
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#104527
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Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/104527/action/topic#104527
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And for The Empire Strikes Back...

Again, plug original logos back in.

Original wampa cave sequence. It might be possible to edit the DVD footage to match the original scene without resorting to OT laserdisc footage. But if need be, I'll plug away.

Original "Emperor's phone call" scene, plugged from the '97 SE.

Make Artoo "taste good" again.

Put Fett's original voice back in where it should be. For the love of anything sacred....

Something must be done about Vader's pink saber. If I can't correct it, I'll plug '97 SE footage in for it when it goes to crap.

Plug OT laserdisc for Lando's evacuation speech, just because I like the original way better. Can't explain why.

Put "Bring my shuttle" back in.

Cut Vader actually going *to* his shuttle and landing on the Star Destroyer. I don't know if this is possible with the audio changes and pace of music without resorting to laserdisc footage.

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#104524
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Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/104524/action/topic#104524
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At any rate, here's what I hope my "Epsidode IV" edit will look like. I'm trying to learn how to use Womble, but not having much luck at all.

I'd use the '04 DVD with '97 SE audio as the base. This way, all the bad audio is already taken care of.
I'd start by plugging in the original logos from the laserdisc.
And if at all possible, I'd also try to use the "Editdroid" opening crawl, because I like the lack of "A new Hope".

Then I'd see what I could do with the "Look sir, droids!" scene. Ideally, I'd like to have the SE footage, minus entirely new shots. If not, I can plug OT footage in.

I would leave Mos Eisley entrace the same, except cutting the shot of the Ronto freaking out. Starting where that shot would be, I'll plug in OT laserdisc footage until Luke pulls off after the troopers tells them to move along. Then it'd cut back to DVD footage. (yes, i know there'll be a Ronto in the next few shots, but it's allright with me.)

I'd plug wolfman back into the cantina.

As far as making Greedo shoot first, I'd have DVD footage up until Han says "Yes, I'll be you have". Then I'll cut to laserdisc footage for a few frames of Greedy "exploding" and cut back to DVD footage to see him slump on the table. (If that'll work, I don't know)

Cut Jabba. By either plugging in OT for the shot before and after, or doing a new "fade" myself.

And I'll do SOMETHING about Luke's horrible green saber, even if it means plugging in '97 SE footage.

I'd want to plug the original trash monster back in for the few seconds you see it (with '97 SE footage), but no big deal if I can't.

And I'd put the original English "Power - Tractor Beam" back in, but once again no big deal if I can't.

Cut Biggs.

When the X-wings take off, I want to plug OT laserdisc footage in so they appear as white dots. Also, I'll have the initial "onto the Death Star" shot of the X-wings be from the OT. But after everyone "stands by", the rest of the battle will be DVD footage.

That's what I *hope* to do, anyway. It's not looking good so far...


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#104033
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Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/104033/action/topic#104033
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Would it be possible for someone like me to edit the Star Wars DVDs with Womble editor?

I'm not talking anything complex, simply cutting out the parts I don't like and putting in either video from the SE or OT Laserdisc transfers.

Example: Cut out the Jabba dance number starting with the shot before with the droid being welted on it's feet and ending with the shot of threepio showing disgust before Jabba eats a frog. Then replace the scene with LD footage, frame accurate. Soundtrack included.

Would I have to simplify the original soundtrack to stereo to make it compatible with the LD? And will I need to either de-anamorphic the original DVD, or make the LD transfer anamorphic? Thanks for all your help, and if I succeed, the forums might have a decent De-SE set on their hands.
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#102856
Topic
Lucas Forced Himself To Write 'Episode III'
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/102856/action/topic#102856
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To the Bizzle, you listen!

Some people are just obsessivly hating him. Even if he did something that was great, they would spit on it.
Granted he hasn't been the king of good decision making latley, but forcing himself to write isn't inheritly a bad thing. He had to do the same thing with the original movie, didn't he?
And weren't the Special Editions his "passionatte rejuvination" of what he originally had to force himself to write anyway?
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#98158
Topic
Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/98158/action/topic#98158
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Well good luck with the rest of this and the next two edits, Editous! (good name)

Another great way to get your "Ultimate Edition" trilogy shared, once it's done, is uploading it as a torrent. I'm sure Rikter or someone would love to do that for you!

MTFBWY

EDIT: And screenshots rock! Can you show us a few shots of stuff you've painted out/on? Like the green R5?
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#98156
Topic
Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/98156/action/topic#98156
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Well whenever you complete the project, I would love to take a peek at it.

And the ROTJ might work too, given what you said above. The eyebrows I don't really mind but I thought it might be worth changing back usign '97 SE footage.
I don't know how easy it'd be to cut around the musical number.... and it is important. Cant' you make just one exception and put the old on in? please please please?
Haha, no pressure, i'm half-kidding.

And even if it is PAL, I think people could download something to transfer it to NTSC on their computers, right?
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#98108
Topic
Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/98108/action/topic#98108
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There's a few times where I think you'd have to include non-DVD footage, and they're all in ROTJ.

The Jabba musical number, the sarlacc, Sebastian's eyebrows, and the ghosting.


And believe me, the described ANH is AMAZING. Wow, that'd be great to have sitting on my desk.
The ultimate Special Edition, the way it should have been the first time.
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#97761
Topic
Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/97761/action/topic#97761
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Sweet, Adigitalman!!!

That's the edit I've been waiting for! Similar to, but not as drastic as, the MagnoliaFan edits and keeping all original story elements and characters. (AKA not changing Jar Jar or making Dooku's saber yellow)

Are you changing the actual title's of the films too?

I'd be very interested in seeing the finished product. ANd are you planning on editing episode III as well? (we all know the crawl of that one could use work for sure)