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Hmm. I think you're right. If I can find a copy of the theatrical version, maybe I could rent it, then I will do this.

However, I will leave the council scene as it is in the EE. I consider it important to hear of Boromir's dream, especially because I removed the flashback in TTT EE which shows Denethor knowing about the ring. My version is like the book: Boromir comes to Rivendell because of a dream he has, and does not know that the ring has been found.

By the way, in my version Gandalf now says Saruman is breeding orcs with men. I removed the "goblin" prefix.

I've never actually seen the theatrical versions, to be honest. I became a fan just a year or so ago. 

What are the differences between the two versions when they enter Lorien?

I'd rather, if it's easy to do, edit the EE down in those scenes than acquire a copy of the theatrical versions.

And I like your ideas for Gandalf in ROTK. When I get there, I will remember that.

Thank you for the comment and suggestions!

Initially I had cut out the scenes of Saruman's breeding stuff. But even this way there are still many references elsewhere to Saruman's "bred" army. And it isn't wholly contradictory to the book either. 

I will go back and see if I can easily remove that line by Gandalf that you mentioned, because you are right. 

And the scene containing the line by Grima that you mentioned is cut from my version. We don't see Saruman and Grima in any scenes together until after the Ents ravish Isengard. My reason for doing this is that it solves several little problems. Such scenes are where the Warg riders are sent out, Saruman scoffing at Aragorn (Does he even know about Aragorn in the books? I can't remember.), and it's not in the books anyway. 

Also in my versions Saruman is his own independent player in the game, not a "puppet" of Sauron.

About your suggestion for ROTK that we remove the mystery of what Sauron will do, this would raise some trouble. In the movie, they want information of Saruon's plans from Saruman but don't get them because he is killed. So then Pippin accidentally gets some from the Palantir. And that is why they go to Minas Tirith, to get the heads up on Sauron's plan.

The only way I can think to bring this in better line with the book is to remove Gandalf saying that they got a glimpse of the enemy's plan, and maybe get rid of the "information" aspect from Saruman's final scene.

It seems like this part of the movie version is so tightly knit, there may not be anything I can do about it.

And as far as Aragorn challenging Sauron with the Palantir, I like it. But I will remove the part with Arwen. So yeah, I agree. However, seeing a physical Sauron in the Palantir is a good thing because it shows that he is not just an eye. In the movies, this is supposed to show that he can "now" take physical form, but for my version it could just be showing him in a physical form because mine never says that he isn't physical.

And I will remove anything else possible in order to lessen the portrayal of Sauron as an eye.

And recoloring the dead isn't something I can do, so they'll have to remain Pirates of the Carribean-ish.

These have been totally reworked and made from scratch. Kerr and Phil, from the first book cuts, have helped greatly. A much better attempt at a purist edit that can be a true successor to the infamous TTT Purist Edit.
 

Rather than post the full blurbs, here are the concise links:
 

http://fanedit.org/8259/

http://fanedit.org/8323/

Aside from small trims and edits, larger-scale things have been removed, such as:

Sauron is not merely a giant eye floating above Barad-dur.

Arwen is not sailing across the sea to Valinor.

Aragorn does not doubt his identity and destiny.

Saruman is not Sauron’s direct subservient.

Boromir is corrupted rather than an being an undercover agent.

Theoden is not a coward and does not hold a groundless grudge against Gondor.

Faramir does not drag the hobbits to Osgiliath, so Frodo does not attempt to give the ring to a Nazgul.

No elves at the Hornburg.

The Ents do not refuse to attack Isengard.

The good guys already know Sauron moves against Minas Tirith.

Arwen is not dying.

Denethor lights the beacons of his own accord, prior to Gandalf and Pippin’s arrival.

De-emphasized ‘Sauron the Searchlight’ as much as possible.

Frodo does not send Sam home.

I don't see anything fundamentally different between our two signatures. One points out my opinions about atheism, and the other points out your opinions about religion.

Mine is a simple statement about atheism. It is unfounded to say that it is inherently offensive to anyone who is not Christian. Yours, on the other hand, is a pointed joust at the Bible.

This is a non-issue. Let's focus on Star Wars.

Does anyone out there have any of these book cuts in any form?

I would greatly enjoy experiencing them, rather than attempt a second rate book cut on my own.

If anyone would be interested in a trade of some sort, my Star Wars prequel fan edits are still available and I'd be happy even with the book cuts split onto two single layered discs or whatever could possibly be arranged.

As soon as the torrent finishes downloading in three months, I can begin fan editing again.

The torrent will take ages to finish downloading.  Then I can start editing. :)

Or a new establishing shot of the walkers in CG. Dozens of walkers walking towards the camera, rotating slightly.

I'm cranking away at the torrented version... waiting... waiting.

I plan on using it as source material for future editing. Does anybody know how to convert this type of format into DVD?  Or MPEG-2?

Could someone downconvert Adywan'r or Wookie Groomer's hi-def Star Wars saga?

Adywan's would be color corrected, right?

Adywan, you are doing more than any other individual to bring back the joy of Star Wars to many fanboys.  I just finished my own slightly tweaked personal edit of your ANH Revisited, and am deeply satisfied with it. 

Thank you, thank you.  My OOT nightmare (at least for ANH so far) is over.  A dual-layered professional-looking version of ANH that I can rest easy about, with ESB and ROTJ on the way.  Astounding.  Masterful, beautiful, just what we needed.

*Sniff* I'm done now.

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