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#389639
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(New HD Version in the works) Sharkey's "Lord of the Rings" Purist Editions (Released)
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Version 2.0 of these fan edits are now available on ThePirateBay and other common torrent sites, in DVD and MP4 editions.

I think these are much better, and have been created from scratch all over again. Kerr has been helping me, and so has the Phil behind the first "book cuts." Both have given great ideas and have collaborated with me to produce these edits. 

They will also be up on rapidshare (compliant with jDownloader) and on fanedit.org soon!

 

Enjoy, Tolkien nerds! 

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#344951
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Lord of the Rings BOOK CUT Revamped, Books I and II (Released)
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In conjunction with Phil, the original fan editor behind the rare book cuts, I’m happy to finally be able to publish these revamped book cuts for your consideration.

We re-cut the film as close as we wanted it… to the book… obviously we couldn’t have ALL of the stuff from the book because we would need extra footage.

The film begins, not by a prologue but with Bilbo writing his book… it all happens in sequence until when Gandalf trots to Minas Tirith and looks at the old scrolls… then we see an un-cut and un-narrated LAST ALLIANCE battle.

Removed a few of Merry and Pippin’s Jar Jar moments.

It goes in order but there are no Gandalf/Saruman sub-plot intercuts… so now we, the audience don’t know what happened to him!

The film keeps going and we stop right at when the Ringwraiths meet their (temporary) doom at the ford of Bruinen. (Phil’s voice can be heard added to this scene.)

Disc 2 is inserted, and we fade in with Gandalf sitting near Frodo’s bed. When Frodo asks him what happened, Gandalf recalls the FULL and UNCUT sub-plot of the Saruman "incident,” minus the line about Sauron not being able to take physical shape.

A few chunks of the prologue are dispersed throughout the film, such as Isildur’s fate and some Gollum content.

Obliterated the lame self-doubt of Aragorn. (No telling Legolas to sit down at the Council, no protesting Elrond and Arwen’s encouragement, etc.)

We also tried to make Saruman a little less “central” as a villian… like in the books. So, you won’t be hearing
Gandalf say “It’s Sarumaaaan!” at Caradrhas for example. Nor, will you see alot of Uruk-Hai suiting up and stuff that takes place in Saruman’s shack.

Moria sees a shortened plight on the crumbling staircase, and the fellowship don’t see/notice any dwarf corpses until Balin’s tomb. So the Watcher’s attack is more of a surprise… sort of.

The theatrical version of the approach on Lothlórien is used in order to remove the out of place scene from the extended edition.

Galadriel does not tell Frodo someone inside the fellowship will try to take the ring, nor talks to Aragorn about his self-doubt.

When they boat through the Anduin there is no “Isengard theme music video” with intercuts with the Fellowship and the Uruk-Hai.
The extended night scene with Boromir, Aragorn, Frodo, and Gollum… We removed the  quarrel between Boromir and Aragorn. Because Aragorn is too much of a self-doubting nut and the book doesn’t reveal such bitterness toward Boromir or Gondor on his part.
And we do not see Boromir die… he blows his horn once and the trio run for his aid and we CUT to Frodo with the ring.

The film ends that way… without intercutting with Aragorn and company… that, we will see in our revamped TTT cut!

Disc 1 can fit onto a single-layered DVD, but disc 2 needs to either be burned to a dual-layered disc or compressed.

Available on mininova and demonoid. Enjoy!

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#338716
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(New HD Version in the works) Sharkey's "Lord of the Rings" Purist Editions (Released)
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Hmm. I think you're right. If I can find a copy of the theatrical version, maybe I could rent it, then I will do this.

However, I will leave the council scene as it is in the EE. I consider it important to hear of Boromir's dream, especially because I removed the flashback in TTT EE which shows Denethor knowing about the ring. My version is like the book: Boromir comes to Rivendell because of a dream he has, and does not know that the ring has been found.

By the way, in my version Gandalf now says Saruman is breeding orcs with men. I removed the "goblin" prefix.

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#338709
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(New HD Version in the works) Sharkey's "Lord of the Rings" Purist Editions (Released)
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I've never actually seen the theatrical versions, to be honest. I became a fan just a year or so ago. 

What are the differences between the two versions when they enter Lorien?

I'd rather, if it's easy to do, edit the EE down in those scenes than acquire a copy of the theatrical versions.

And I like your ideas for Gandalf in ROTK. When I get there, I will remember that.

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#338697
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(New HD Version in the works) Sharkey's "Lord of the Rings" Purist Editions (Released)
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Thank you for the comment and suggestions!

Initially I had cut out the scenes of Saruman's breeding stuff. But even this way there are still many references elsewhere to Saruman's "bred" army. And it isn't wholly contradictory to the book either. 

I will go back and see if I can easily remove that line by Gandalf that you mentioned, because you are right. 

And the scene containing the line by Grima that you mentioned is cut from my version. We don't see Saruman and Grima in any scenes together until after the Ents ravish Isengard. My reason for doing this is that it solves several little problems. Such scenes are where the Warg riders are sent out, Saruman scoffing at Aragorn (Does he even know about Aragorn in the books? I can't remember.), and it's not in the books anyway. 

Also in my versions Saruman is his own independent player in the game, not a "puppet" of Sauron.

 

About your suggestion for ROTK that we remove the mystery of what Sauron will do, this would raise some trouble. In the movie, they want information of Saruon's plans from Saruman but don't get them because he is killed. So then Pippin accidentally gets some from the Palantir. And that is why they go to Minas Tirith, to get the heads up on Sauron's plan.

The only way I can think to bring this in better line with the book is to remove Gandalf saying that they got a glimpse of the enemy's plan, and maybe get rid of the "information" aspect from Saruman's final scene.

It seems like this part of the movie version is so tightly knit, there may not be anything I can do about it.

And as far as Aragorn challenging Sauron with the Palantir, I like it. But I will remove the part with Arwen. So yeah, I agree. However, seeing a physical Sauron in the Palantir is a good thing because it shows that he is not just an eye. In the movies, this is supposed to show that he can "now" take physical form, but for my version it could just be showing him in a physical form because mine never says that he isn't physical.

And I will remove anything else possible in order to lessen the portrayal of Sauron as an eye.

And recoloring the dead isn't something I can do, so they'll have to remain Pirates of the Carribean-ish.

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#338671
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(New HD Version in the works) Sharkey's "Lord of the Rings" Purist Editions (Released)
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These have been totally reworked and made from scratch. Kerr and Phil, from the first book cuts, have helped greatly. A much better attempt at a purist edit that can be a true successor to the infamous TTT Purist Edit.
 

Rather than post the full blurbs, here are the concise links:
 

http://fanedit.org/8259/

http://fanedit.org/8323/

 

Aside from small trims and edits, larger-scale things have been removed, such as:

Sauron is not merely a giant eye floating above Barad-dur.

Arwen is not sailing across the sea to Valinor.

Aragorn does not doubt his identity and destiny.

Saruman is not Sauron’s direct subservient.

Boromir is corrupted rather than an being an undercover agent.

Theoden is not a coward and does not hold a groundless grudge against Gondor.

Faramir does not drag the hobbits to Osgiliath, so Frodo does not attempt to give the ring to a Nazgul.

No elves at the Hornburg.

The Ents do not refuse to attack Isengard.

The good guys already know Sauron moves against Minas Tirith.

Arwen is not dying.

Denethor lights the beacons of his own accord, prior to Gandalf and Pippin’s arrival.

De-emphasized ‘Sauron the Searchlight’ as much as possible.

Frodo does not send Sam home.

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#334415
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THE STAR WARS SAGA - 1080P AVCHD DVD-9 for PS3 & Blu-Ray players - Episodes 1, 4 & 5 available now
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I don't see anything fundamentally different between our two signatures. One points out my opinions about atheism, and the other points out your opinions about religion.

Mine is a simple statement about atheism. It is unfounded to say that it is inherently offensive to anyone who is not Christian. Yours, on the other hand, is a pointed joust at the Bible.

 

This is a non-issue. Let's focus on Star Wars.

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#333154
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Lord of the Rings - TTT - The Re-Edited Re-Edit Book Cut! (Released)
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Does anyone out there have any of these book cuts in any form?

I would greatly enjoy experiencing them, rather than attempt a second rate book cut on my own.

If anyone would be interested in a trade of some sort, my Star Wars prequel fan edits are still available and I'd be happy even with the book cuts split onto two single layered discs or whatever could possibly be arranged.