It looks like the links are offline. :( I will try again tomorrow but my client isn't reporting any of them as being online.
I won't ask you to reupload it in its entirety, but I'd like to hear what Jango sounds like with his helmet on during JasonN's Episode II. Entire audio track or just clips. Particularly the fight with Obi-Wan in the rain and fight with Windu on Geonosis.
Going back to the cookies analogy. Let's say the OOT is a tray of delicious fresh baked macadamia nut cookies with a few overdone-but-still-good ones in the back. In that case, the SE would be those same cookies braised with teriyaki sauce because someone wanted to ruin them in order to practice making Chinese food.
And I guess the prequels would be poorly cooked Chinese duck. (According to Plinkett's definition of "tshi.")
Hopefully the ST will be moar cookies without that many duck chunks. Maybe, if anything, there'd be the occasional chunk that was so small you don't even notice.
The Clone Wars series would be dinner served across the street that I don't really care about. Rebels is served on my neighbor's deck and smells all right, so I might walk over to the fence and see if I get invited over.
The Thrawn trilogy are off-brand Oreos that someone left open and are stale, but are okay if you have milk. But apparently now Dad says you can't have them anymore and you're not sure whether to be mad.
Jar Jar is a piece of gristle in the duck meat. Luke Skywalker is a white chocolate chip.
Podracer for N64 is the fortune cookie that came with the duck.
WELL THEN YOU ARE LOTS
I'd also like to open the floor for last minute ideas about dialogue for the medical droid. The idea is to communicate that Padme is injured in such a way that she will die a few years down the road.
Currently the droid says, "She has sustained severe injuries. She will survive, but she may never fully recover."
It needs to be a sentence or two. I'll re-record if a better phrasing or way of saying it is presented. Otherwise it's fine as is. Just thinking of anything that can be spruced up before V3 is locked.
That option easily adds six weeks of time to the process. I'd really rather there just be one. The not-all-that-different V2 will still be around if one prefers the purple.
EDIT: Perhaps releasing just a 1080p version with the purple saber would be a good option. Blue is the preferred release, but one could snatch and reencode the 1080p purple version if they desire. May as well begin encoding it while I wait.
While waiting for the aforementioned FX package, I'm wrestling with whether to even use it at all.
It's about Mace Windu's lightsaber; another user is in the process of recoloring it to blue. It always seemed slightly silly to me that Sam MF'ing Jackson was the only character to have a differently-colored saber. He was depicted with a blue saber pre-2002, and I think leaving it as blue would have been a better decision when making AOTC.
Now, 12 years later, I have a decision about what to do with it in my edit. Someone is doing the actual work either way, so I can either profit by this or be destroyed let it be. I think for the films on their own it would be a positive change, but it does come at the cost of causing superficial visual continuity errors with other Star Wars media like the Clone Wars series or EU novels.
Bah, what am I saying? It's worth it. Like I said, it's a superficial continuity issue. But that's the FX package I'm waiting on before I can encode and release Eps 2 and 3.
Very good. I think we're all on the same team, and want the best edits possible.
Sure, I'd like to see it. I can pass it along to Kerr as well.
As soon as I get a small FX package back, plus encoding time.
It'd be for Kerr to do, as all I'm doing is consulting and providing feedback. It's really a misnomer to call it an HD version of Sharkey's, though that's where it began.
Kerr's working on it. The Hobbit project will really be his work, whereas I've been more helpful to him with the LOTR stuff. (I haven't ripped or tinkered with them, so all I can do is spitball.)
If memory serves, Kerr's version doesn't cut back to Gandalf there and instead has two consecutive shots of the WK, making a jump cut. Neither is ideal.
Are you planning on using Other Boleyn Girl footage to have Padme live through ROTS, or are you trimming Leia's dialogue about her in ROTJ?
Interesting project. I wonder if machete Star Wars quadrilogy edits would do well to remove the "Episode __" subtitle from the opening crawls.
Very good to hear. I hope Ady is able to craft something that will make prior efforts pale in comparison.
ImperialFighter said:
Hal 9000 - in case adywan is too busy to get back to you on this, or doesn't want to cover it in this thread, let me refer you to a much more recent update to do with that issue near the bottom this link - http://swrevisited.wordpress.com/rotjr-facts/
(for the record, I'm happy with this decision and am hoping it means he won't be going down the 'The Other Boleyn Girl' footage route. It was a clever enough idea as a way to make sense of Leia's ROTJ dialogue, but I'm hoping this means he'll be sticking with actual ROTS footage one way or another. But that's all for another day)
Hmm... It mentions removing some extraneous dialogue from Leia, but it doesn't sound from that like he plans to remove the menation of her mother. Or do you know that for a fact? It seems like he still plans to have Padme survive ROTS.
adywan said:
And also the problem with Leia remembering her real mother but Padme dies in ROTS will be fixed in the PT, so no changes are needed in ROTJ.
Do you plan on using The Cutter's technique of borrowing footage from The Other Boleyn Girl? I'm sure you'll do more than that, even if that's an element of it. Just curious how you plan to go about this, since I took a stab at it recently (though purely through editing).
I agree totally about Yoda's saber. Green was an understandable but silly choice. I think his saber pre-AOTC was depicted as yellow, as Windu's was blue.
EDIT: Reminds me of Redlettermedia joking that when Yoda confronted Palpatine they expected him to shoot out green lightning.
TV's Frink said:
Leonardo said:
It's been too long!
I don't suppose the machete/flashback order would work for these.
Fellowship of The Ring
The Two Towers
[An Unexpected Journey]
Desolation of Smaug
Battle of Five Armies
Return of the King
A) It doesn't really matter.
and B) I don't see why not.
Seems like there are some superficial continuity differences, but nothing that would plague you as you watch them, surely. It's not like you don't know it's an edit and will probably be different.
Criticism is fine, but personal attacks aren't.
The quality of GL's and Adywan's alterations is irrelevant because what matters is that one suppresses the original version and the other doesn't. I don't watch Adywan's version of ANH but I admire it as a project. I object to the SE(+) not out of intrinsic qualities, but because of their exclusivity. Were it not for that, I'd peaceably ignore them and watch the original. It's really not a difficult concept, and doesn't hinge on subjective appraisals of the changes.
All I can suggest would be to read through the comprehensive (for your purposes) change lists and see if anything I've done would be a problem. I don't know the '08 series very well, but I understand even the prequels themselves have continuity problems with it. ("General Greivous, your shorter than I expected," etc.) if you like a PT edit and there's incongruity, maybe you can come up with an in-universe rationalization.
