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- #742147
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- Star Wars Episode II: The Approaching Storm (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/742147/action/topic#742147
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A) It doesn't really matter.
and B) I don't see why not.
A) It doesn't really matter.
and B) I don't see why not.
Seems like there are some superficial continuity differences, but nothing that would plague you as you watch them, surely. It's not like you don't know it's an edit and will probably be different.
Criticism is fine, but personal attacks aren't.
The quality of GL's and Adywan's alterations is irrelevant because what matters is that one suppresses the original version and the other doesn't. I don't watch Adywan's version of ANH but I admire it as a project. I object to the SE(+) not out of intrinsic qualities, but because of their exclusivity. Were it not for that, I'd peaceably ignore them and watch the original. It's really not a difficult concept, and doesn't hinge on subjective appraisals of the changes.
All I can suggest would be to read through the comprehensive (for your purposes) change lists and see if anything I've done would be a problem. I don't know the '08 series very well, but I understand even the prequels themselves have continuity problems with it. ("General Greivous, your shorter than I expected," etc.) if you like a PT edit and there's incongruity, maybe you can come up with an in-universe rationalization.
jedimasterobiwan said:
so your edit doesn't affect the two clone wars series then.
I don't understand what you mean. They didn't directly factor into anything I did. My edits omit things but Padme's fate is the only thing that jumps out at me as a substantial continuity change that might oppose EU stuff. But I hope future films don't reference it explicitly, since it already contradicts ROTJ.
Yes. Then 720p, then the DVD5. Repeat for Ep3. It takes some time.
I see the purple line you're talking about. It's extremely subtle. I can't find any reason for it, though the encoding process for V2 of LOE was less than ideal. It should not be a problem now that my workflow has been fixed, but I'll keep a sharp eye on that in the results.
About V3 changes, most of them are described here: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Episode-III-Labyrinth-Of-Evil-Finished/post/727517/#TopicPost727517
There's a few more things, like removing another instance where Obi-Wan addresses R2 by name, and other tiny tweaks.
Enough, please. I found a good amount of inspiration from Q2's work, including using The Cutter's idea for depicting Padme surviving the film. Prequel edits are plentiful and it's good to have options. Every decision that goes into an edit is a balancing act, and we often elect different goals. At least at this point, I'd say Q2's trilogy is the best option for someone who wants to (try to) preserve OT surprises in a chronological viewing.
How many times do we need to reiterate the difference between Lucas' changes and suppression of the original versions and fan projects that present mere unofficial alternatives?
Y... yeah.
Nope
Eh, makes it feel exotic. And bri-ish.
Thanks, man!
First off, I looked at V2 and I don't see a blue or purple line on the left, at least not during the whole film. Can you post a screenshot? I don't see anything to correct.
Regrettably the pacing and continuity are slightly off in the "ray shields" scene. It's the cost of removing the cartoony R2 antics. We can assume they round up R2 offscreen. It'd be nice for an alternative way to see them get captured.
Palpatine's face melting never amounts to anything in ROTS. He doesn't ever seem to react to the change at all, as if he is not surprised. He tells the Senate it was the result of his assassination attempt, but LOE recasts that as a lie. This way Sidious drops his facade and confidently shows Anakin his true form. LOE's depiction is no more problematic than ROTS, but neither really add up. Admittedly, this change is ideal for edits that either remove Sidious from 1 and 2 or darken his face.
I think Qui-Gon's voice gives Yoda's mention of him to Obi-Wan some context. I can't cut it because I already cut so much of that scene and it needs to have some content to feel right. (The only way to make you believe they discussed Padme is to imply that Yoda's first line is the end of their conversation.) Plus, it gives us our only scrap of an explanation about why no Jedi in the PT disappear (or, why OT Jedi disappear). The Liam Neeson dialogue from Clone Wars with appropriate Star Wars terminology was too good to pass on. I'll check the volume, though.
The Death Star was totally unnecessary in Ep2 and Ep3, and contributes nothing other than a hamfisted way to shove OT imagery into the PT. If it worked itself into the story in a meaningful way, that'd be something different. Removing it also avoids awkward questions about why it took so long, compared to DSII. Episode III shows the prequels very quickly and awkwardly morphing into the OT: The Republic falls in a day, most of the Jedi are wiped out in a few hours, Anakin is dropped into a fully-designed Vader suit, the Emperor metamorphosizes into his wrinkly ROTJ self, etc. By replacing the Death Star with something else, it's one less offense in that regard.
lol, well nothing is set in stone. Someone's working on something for me first, but as soon as it gets to me I'll mash the encode button and get going. Expect Ep3 about three weeks after the first version of Ep2 appears, because it takes a long time to encode each one.
EDIT: This new icon feels so liberating. Gone is the Hal9000 fisheye that makes me feel like I should try to be eloquent. My real name is Kirk anyway.
Wow, what asshats. I don't feel insulted; I'm embarrassed for them.
HotRod said:
Ady, Makingstarwars.net just ripped into you on their latest podcast.
Can you say more? I don't want to have to wade through the episode.
ALLOL
I'll probably go with, "Silence, laborers." It's not derogatory per se, but implies something about this insect world's class system. The "scum" idea isn't bad, but it'd be nice to have something different.
And hey, I'll take suggestions until it's time to mash the button.
Something like slaves, peons, workers, laborers, etc. would work. I like the idea that he's addressing them in a derogatory way.
Fixed! It seems like I forgot to apply that 3% zoom to two clips for V2. I do not hear anything wrong with the audio, though. The landing platform scene is 100% a DVD deleted scene, and none of it was originally in the film. (At least it wasn't a glitch per se, and had a known cause.)
CAPTION CONTEST! Whoever suggests the best subtitle before it's time to hit 'encode' wins. Subtitle to beat is "Silence, infidels." Original is "Settle down, settle down."
Huh. I had to zoom in on the deleted scenes by 3% anyway, so I'll see if that doesn't need to be increased slightly. Weird. Is the audio glutch at the point the scene changes? I'll check on it tonight.
And do you have an alternate suggestion for the subtitle? "Settle down, settle down" is lame.
Thanks for the feedback, especially about A/V glitches. I'll check on them for sure. Can you post a screencap of what you mean?
The trial scene is gone in V3 for the reasons you described, and scenes reordered to accommodate the change.
The "infidel" subtitle is an homage to MagnoliaFan's edit, because I found it so funny.